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[00:00:00] Okay, there we are. Welcome to Sunday Night Live and Monday Morning Live wherever you are on the earth, on this planet 

You know, I, whenever I talk about the I refer to the earth, the planet again recently, I just, I realized that there are people out there that actually, 

 Don't know, anyway, I don't want to get into it, it's not, it's not worth talking. Anyway, welcome everyone, it's Sunday night, what's the date for you guys over there? 26, 

right? Twenty fifth. Twenty six. Twenty fifth in, on, on, in North America, right? Yeah, anyway, doesn't matter. I get, I mean, doesn't matter. It's just a date. It's a calendar. Anyway so, okay, so we got some people coming in here. Just waiting for ReStream to wake up. ReStream no rumble on ReStream. Can you believe that? I can. Anyway, I'm what, I don't want to waste too much time. 

Okay, here we are. Here we are. Here. Here's a baby. Here we go. Let's get back to here. Get rid of [00:01:00] this. Get rid of this. Okay. Alright. Where are we? 

Okay. Alright. So, anyway, let's get where are we guys? Oh, okay. Good. Okay. So, anyway, no more. Hi, everyone. And I hope Melody is out there somewhere. Melody, are you? I don't see you but anyway, I'm sure you're there, right? Okay. So, good morning, everyone and good evening, everyone. Cool. Everyone's jumping on here. 

Good, good, good, good. Alright. 

So, you can hear me on Instagram. Great. You guys can hear well on all the other stuff. Fallbrook, California. Oh, how you guys doing? Is that you anywhere near the madness? There's still fires out there in in in LA. It seems to be. I don't know. I mean, it's almost as if somebody was or a group of people were trying to clear away an area for some. It just kind of looks like that. It's being decimated. Imagine that. I mean, paranoid [00:02:00] thinking. Newcastle, Oklahoma. Whoa. Yes. 

Good to have you. Newfoundland, Canada. Yay. Wow. That's very cool. Let me see. I gotta make sure I can see well. So we're looking at some questions from last week that we didn't get to to start out with. 

Alright, and everyone knows like that we're doing these groups, right? We have these three groups. The health and healing group, the parasite group, and the CFC group. What are CFCs? CFCs are chronically fermenting cells. What are they? That's what people in the Rockefeller crime family call Sagittarius. 

Is it Virgo? No, Leo, no. No, Taurus cancer. That's what it is. They call it cancer. Anyway. It's not, it's nothing to do with astrology. It's nothing to do with astrology and anybody who's experienced the nose that has nothing to do with the stroloser, it's a much more 

immediate problems. So, okay. So it's not, it's not that. [00:03:00] All right. So anyway, so we have CFC group, parasite group, and it helped in the other group and this Ontario Canada. Well, very cool. Excellent. A lot of people from Canada. That's wonderful. I mean, I heard recently that, that Trump wants to make Canada the 51st state of the United States. It's bizarre. And then what, Mexico will be the 52nd state? And then with the whole, the whole North and South America become part of the U. S.? You know, sorry for you diehard American. But I lost my faith. 

I know we've got a good guy in now. What about RFK Jr.? Yeah, I, let's see what happens. I hope it happens. I hope what we think is good happen or what we are, but I didn't didn't what's his name? DJT, Donald J. Trump. Didn't he give a talk yesterday virtually [00:04:00] at the, or a couple of days ago at the world economic forum and saying that we're going to be the leaders in AI to completely surveil everyone. 

Did I hear that right? Or was that like, think I saw a part of the speech as well. And yes. So, I mean, what does that mean? Are we going to be the leaders in surveilling? I mean, better, we're going to be more adept at surveilling our citizens than China? Yeah. Hey Nicole and Melody. I was looking for you guys earlier. 

There you are. Good morning. Good evening. Happy dreams. Anyway, okay, so let's hope, let's hope, let's hope, let's hope all, all, what we think is happening is happening. Because I'm never sure what's happening, really, right? Are you guys sure what's happening? Because I'm looking over here and then over there. 

You know, it's kind of like was it Siegfried and Roy, or was it Lance Burton? A lot of those Las Vegas guys are really good at it. They keep you distracted over here while they do something. [00:05:00] Hey, hi there, Nelody. I hear you saying hi. Fantastic. Beautiful. Whoops, let's fix this chair. 

Good, okay. Alright, cool. So anyway, how's everyone out in, in, in LA, Southern California? Doing doing okay out there? 

Hi, Melody. Well, we can't talk right now, but maybe at the end of this, but I don't know if he'll be awake. Anyway how's it going, you guys, in, in, in LA? It's 

like, it's like a war zone, isn't it? Maui, then LA, I mean, it's just caught on fire and decimated it. Come on, guys. Are we gonna wake up? Are we gonna, we're Where's all of our special forces and stuff? Where are you guys? Come on. It's the time. It's here. This is what Thomas Jefferson was talking about. 

Remember Thomas Jefferson? Remember, he wouldn't sign the Constitution until they put in the amendments. 

Okay, so what [00:06:00] can you do to prevent recurrence? What tests can I stay on top of? I'm currently in remission. 

Oh, thank you, Tracy. I'm not a political scientist. Therefore, I have no opinion. 

I have an opinion because I'm a human being, and I'm affected by it all. That's why I have an opinion. 

And I should talk medical? Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, I will do exactly as you say. Your honor, I won't talk about anything. You got that, guys? I can't talk about anything else, except medical. Anyway, so the question here was and it was related to BC, which was chronically fermenting cells of the breast. 

How can this person stay out of remain in remission? So, so I don't really know what this person did to, to, to, to get into remission. So you can either have gone, gone a conventional route, which usually involves surgery, chemo, and radiation, and find out that the, it, it, it, it, it, [00:07:00] it all goes well, you find out that the primary tumor's gone and that's really nice. 

And it looks like you're in what they call remission, because there's no discoverable tumors. No, it can't be discovered. But we, we've got to keep in mind that the ability of our imaging equipment to detect tumors is limited. So for example the PET scan can get anywhere four, four or five centimeters millimeters. 

The CT can do three to five CAT scans, CT three to five millimeters. Okay. The MRI, one to two millimeters and, and some ultrasounds, if you have a really good technician, maybe two, two millimeters. So. Obviously, that anything under one millimeter is, is not going to be detected on any kind of imaging in the year 2025. 

That being the case there's a lot that we can't see. There's a lot that we're not able to see. So, what does happen, exactly, JJ, exactly, I agree. From the [00:08:00] Philippines, wow, okay, Arturo, I'll talk to you about, we'll talk about that in a minute, ask me again. Anyway just, just, just as a general understanding is when you have when you, when a tumor first arises regardless of where it is, what organ it's in. Okay. When it first arises and it's very small and it's not disturbing the architecture of that organ that it's arising in, it's called stage one. 

But in order to have gotten there, it had, it's taken eight, 10, 12 years, exact our wellbeing. I like that change. 12 years to get there. And during that time, it's produced thousands of microscopic islands that have gone through the lymphatics. The blood vessels and are in the tissues, right? And they're, they're microscopic metastases. 

 Just don't like that word. Anyway but they're, they're, they're all over. They're microscopic, you know, so they can, can visualize them as seeds, right? So, what we're calling stage [00:09:00] 1 is really microscopically stage 4 according to their system. And their system says that if, if it's, if, if, if it's gone to a, a, another organ, right? 

colon to liver, pancreas to adrenal glands or whatever, 

breast to the skin. So, so the whole staging system doesn't really make any sense at all. Because everyone is, even at stage one, is microscopically stage four. And what this means is going after the tumor that is visible, the one that we can see, that little, this is stage one, and cutting it out, is not only meaningless, and I'll hang on there, those people that have done well. 

I'll talk a little bit. Not only that, but it the, the trauma of surgery and we know that we know that what happens in surgery, there's, you know, when you have, you have [00:10:00] trauma, the body's going to respond by having inflammation and inflammation is going to contribute to the chronic, the chronic inflammatory condition that is going on in people with CFC problem and, and all the rest of us. 

So chronic inflammation, you don't want to add to that. That's what surgery will do. That's just one of those many other things. There are a lot of studies on that. But anyway, so you know, so getting that surgery and cutting out that little, a little nodule didn't accomplish much because they're all over the place. 

Right? So they're already all over the place. We have to know that and understand that. Now, what does that mean? That means that we can yeah. We have to view this the whole thing as a systemic problem and not a localized, you know, it's not here, here, here, here, because you can cut it out here, but it's still going to arise again because we haven't taken care of how it got to be the case. 

I just, that, that's the purpose. 

Are you using reply [00:11:00] times? What? I didn't. I'm not. Restream thinks I'm talking to them? Go away. Hi, I'm Jazz from Restream. I'm not asking for you. Go away, please. 

We don't care a single opinion. Everyone has an opinion. Please not you. I wasn't trying to be smart. Sorry. You look took it that way. Took it that way You didn't come here for my opinion. 

 Don't call it politics. I call it life if someone's Bombing me. I'm not gonna say this political concern. It's not a it's a living concern All right, and I've got I've got friends and people in LA. So that's a big deal. It's not it's not a political situation And whether someone's got a CFC is going on where they've got a fire raging in there in their neighborhood. 

They're still got major problems that if I, I can't be involved just because I'm not a firefighter. Come on. I don't think that way. Excuse me. So anyway, back to [00:12:00] the the question at hand. So so what happens, what we know with chemotherapy, high dose chemotherapy and with radio therapy is that we can eliminate the primary tumor. 

But unfortunately, tragically, the those, the high dose chemo and the radio therapy So, we need to enhance each of the six necessary steps for a successful metastasis. Enhance it including increasing circulating tumor cells. Increasing EMT, right? Epithelial to mesenchymal transition which is where a mature CFC becomes a stem cell again. 

Now, it can spread. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like the sound of that coffee there. It's almost gone. It's relieving. It's much worse. Anyway, 

what is why do these people channels? I'm sorry. There's I don't 

add your social media. Come on, man. Please get rid of that. What is the CFC? Okay, Danielle sorry you missed that. A CFC, a [00:13:00] chronically fermenting cell, and the reason I call them chronically fermenting cells, which the Rockefeller crime family calls cancer or Sagittarius or something like that, because that's exactly what they are. 

They're fermenting cells that have learned, that have adapted to and are able to ferment 

successfully. Because the reason I say that is because fermentation is a very inefficient way of producing energy. Right. It's very, very inefficient. It's like 19 times less than the normal, normal way. And so as a result, it needs to really have modified its epigenetic expression so that it can now success, be successful and, and survive on fermentation. 

So we call 'em chronically fermenting cells, and that's what they are. CFCs. The reason that word is mu is, is is the reason that acronym, that phrase or acronym is should be used. I don't like the word should, but in this case I will use it because. One is it conveys information. Now, you know what the situation is. 

It's chronically preventing. So how did that happen? Okay. [00:14:00] How can we resolve it? Okay. We can develop a strategy. That's why and it doesn't carry any emotion where the other word carries nothing but emotion. No information cancer. You don't know what that means except so it doesn't help you in any way and it makes you paralyzed with fear. 

So, it's it's not of use at all. So, that's why we use CFC. So, I hope that is clear. It's kind of a quickie but 

Okay. So by the way, everyone, you know, we can, we can interact and and and like you asked me a question, I answered all that on these groups. That's why these groups are so important. That's why I started them so that we can interact because you know, on this, II really kind of, you know, the the the the premise of this whole live stream is I'm I'm I'm going to be answering questions that have already been sent in. 

Okay, so anyway although I can't help interacting with that kid, listen, I, whoever this is, [00:15:00] thinks I need their help. Jazz, she keeps coming up. Okay. Alright, so that's what happens with chemo and radiation. So if you went the, if you went the conventional route and they, if they were successful, they're success is that there's no longer any detectable, detectable by imaging. 

Alright? And there are, there are biomarkers in the blood that they can look at too, but, you know, like tumor markers, but tumor markers are very, very First of all, tumor markers are not tumor markers. That's not their biology. They're not, we don't have tumor markers. What we have is we have different kinds of antigens on the cell, which as cells are dying with their normal, you know, turnover rate, there's a certain amount of all those in the blood, and you can get what's called the normal range. 

healthy ranges. If you can find a healthy person, then you can get a healthy brain. But the standard range of this substance in the in the blood, such as C. A. 15 best three for breast [00:16:00] C. A. 1 25 ovarian C. E. A. For colon. It's a C. A. 19 9 for pancreas, but they're all pretty much can be found in any of any location. 

All right, so they're not really specific at all. And someone can have a large tumor in one of those areas and tumor markers, so they're not and sometimes the tumor markers going up and not because it's growing, but because it's dying. So, so quickly. So that's why we don't use that's why you have to use other supporting. 

So what part of your question was, how can you monitor this? So in addition to two markers, which only if you take them in context is the LDH going up is the ferritin to iron ratio increasing. Above five do we look at thymidine kinase? Is that going up? Thymidine kinase phosphohexyl isomerase, which we used to be able to get from a lab called American Biologic, is that, no, what was it? 

I think it was, and then they, [00:17:00] oh, I'm not supposed to talk about it, Emma. There's a they out there who made it impossible for American Biologics to get their reagents, so they couldn't do the test, so they closed. They closed in December. It's a bummer. It's a very, very important test, PHI, because it's, it's a, it's, it's an enzyme that's used by fermenting cells. 

So just like LDH, LDH is another important biomarker because it's the last enzyme of glycolysis of fermentation. Okay. So if it's going up, we know that there's increasing fermentation. We know that now LDH is normally found in long heart liver, I mean in many tissues anyway. So it's not that it's just related to that. 

However, it can, if it's going up. and you have a, a tumor or, or, or CFC condition, then, when we look at other things, ferritin, so we have to, we have to look at the whole pattern. So, in order to answer your question, we look at the whole pattern, but what we want to do [00:18:00] mostly is, we want to understand that how this came to be was that these cells, wherever they were, were 

root canals, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, Holly, never, never, there's, there's, never, we'll talk about that in a moment. But Where was I? Anyway, we're we're talking about remission and, and, and, and chemo and radiation and all that. So we make it un it becomes undetectable and we're using these biomarkers and you know, so that'll help us. But more importantly, and that, this is what I was getting to is to understand that what happened was, because of being alive in the 21st century and being exposed to all the toxins that we are everywhere, invisible, invisible, you know, EMF and chemicals in the water, heavy metals, aerosolized things from planes, you know, and stuff like that, but I know that's political, but sorry, that is also affecting us so I have to talk about it all these things [00:19:00] combined assault become part of the extracellular matrix, which is, The sea in which our cells swim. 

Our cells live in the extracellular fluid. They don't live in the blood. The blood the non cellular portion of the blood, meaning non red blood cell, non white blood cell, go into the through osmosis, goes, go into the exodus fluid. That surrounds the cells, right? And it's back and forth. So the waste products go out and the nutrients and gases go in. 

This extracellular food is where the cells live, and it's like the aquarium in which, if you think of ourselves as fish, that's the aquarium there. And so their response, everything the cell is doing, is doing it in response to its environment, and its environment is that extracellular fluid. Alright? So that's what we have to think about. 

So our job, then, is to make sure that extracellular fluid is clean, and non toxic so that our cells can do what they, and is full of the nutrients that [00:20:00] our cells need. Okay, if we can do that, then our cells will function optimally. It's something, it's a condition called health. Alright, so that's our job. 

So that's what we need to do. And that means making sure that we're eliminating all waste and that we get rid of all toxins everywhere from our, from our dental, to our, our mind, every part of our body, we have to do a very important job. thorough, thorough, thorough detoxification process, then what we have to do is continually do that. 

So, we live a life, once we've cleansed, which is three, eight, twelve weeks of, you know, juicing fresh vegetable juice with some fruit to make it delicious or, or, or a short a water fast, but that should be under, under supervision or at least assistance if, if you go past the week. Colon hydrotherapy, lymphatics, all the things that we know about, you know. 

So, so, and once we've done that, now we, [00:21:00] well, now we enter a life that gives us a path, a passageway into a life that's not going to be toxic. That's a life that we're going to eat real human food in the right intervals, right? And and we're going to have a long period of not eating. So our body has a chance to clean up. 

We're going to go to sleep early. We're going to move around all day long. So we're going to do all the things that would, that would allow that extracellular fluid to be perfect for us. optimally functioning cells. The cells don't have to adapt to anything. So when they have to adapt because they're not getting what they need, those adaptations are what are referred to as diseases. 

And they're not diseases, they're adaptive processes. You know, becoming insulin resistant or whatever the cell's doing to survive. We don't want that to happen. We want it to be flying happy. Okay. All right. Now 

so that's so, so, so the, how do you stay in remission is that's it. And if you've been, if you've received toxic therapies, if you received toxic [00:22:00] therapies, Then you really need to do a very thorough, thorough cleansing right now, right? Juice cleanse, three weeks, six weeks, eight weeks, go as long as you can. 

What kind of juice? Celery, cucumber, kale, spinach, lemon, and apples or whatever, pineapple. Whatever you want to make it delicious, make it delicious. It's a little extra sweet at that time. Okay. So what you're not gonna ever get rid of glucose because your body's gonna make it if you don't put it in there. 

I'm not saying to eat it. I'm just saying that if you get it from a natural form in order for you to accomplish a goal, what's the goal? The goal is to clean the water in the aquarium. We got to clean the water. We got to just flood it. And just, you know, if you're, if you're running and peeing all day long, then you know, you're doing, you're doing it. 

If you're doing it, just then you start the moment when you wake up, there's no, there's no. 18 six not eating and eating while you're doing a juice cleanse, because you need to just [00:23:00] really flood. So you start with the morning when you wake up and stop around five if you can or six because you don't want to be getting up all night. 

That's You want it. That's what we want to do. Okay. So, yeah, so that you know, so so if you if you've just come through a conventional thing and you gotta do that, then you're going to eat food which is real food which is human food. What is real human food? Imagine you are in the jungle naked and it is 7000 years ago. 

Tell me what you're going to eat and that's human food. That's it. You don't have to do now. Biological dentists. I hear you guys talking about it. We gotta get a biological dentist because they are, you know, they are what we refer to it like when we talk about medical. Doctors alternative integrative holistic. 

That, that's basically the term for the dentist that does that. And the dentist that does that is really, really, really they're amazing. They're amazing. But you gotta find when they're, now look, when you're looking at the website, I-A-O-M-T is the organization international Association of [00:24:00] medical Toxicology. 

But 

anyway, you want 'em to be certified by that, not just a member of. And you want them to be certified in SMART, which is Smart Mercury Removal. Yeah, and then, you know, certain things. You know, they have to have done and if there's a root canal, you don't save them. You get rid of them, and you do it the right way. 

You're using ozone, play with the rich fiber, and there's a whole process. Okay, and if they're not doing that, if you're in touch with a biological dentist, and they're not doing all of that, then they're not really for you. They're not, they're not what you need. Okay? Okay. Very good. That's how you stay in remission. 

Now 

Okay, so by the way things have been a little chaotic since the turn of the year this year for us. If you've been following us you've seen that. And that's just because we have a change of personnel. So we're getting back together now and things, so I, we're still going to do that fast together. 

I'm sorry it wasn't in January, but we're going to do it. So please hang in there. the the the the [00:25:00] gathering are 

it's it's as you can see it's the posts are much more fun and easier to watch easier on the eyes and the mind. So anyway, it's going to get better and better and better. So, I'll be getting back to you but anyway, the groups remember that the the the health and healing, the parasite, the CFC guidance group. 

CFC again is what that condition they call answer. We don't call it that because that's not what I promise you. Go to a surgeon, open you up, you're not going to find any astrological signs, I promise you. And if you do, well, I guess there could be some people in the world who 

have themselves tattooed on an organ. I mean, I, I don't, nah. Anybody, let's pretty much say that's not going to happen. Hey, sincere servant, good morning, good evening. My thoughts on [00:26:00] signataria, okay. Anyway, these groups, join them so we can interact like I want to do here, but I, instead of having to answer all these, Pre, pre sent in questions, you know, the previously submitted questions. 

I'm, I've gotta do that, but I want you to join these groups so we can interact. Okay? And I can give, I mean, I give lectures on stuff and there's all sorts of, we're gonna have, you know, Darren come and, and we're gonna have raw food classes and all kinds of stuff. So please get on there so we can talk like, my thoughts on Sign Terra real quick. 

And her two sign Terra. All of these tests that are looking at circulating tumor cells and making any decisions about what to do, are falling short because we know that 0. 01 percent of a, of the cells in the tumor are capable of metastasis, the rest aren't. So now, if I get, if I do a blood test and I find I've got all these circulating tumor cells that I do any testing on, have a 99. 

9 percent chance of getting a cell that's irrelevant, [00:27:00] that's not capable of metastasizing, so what am I gonna, what am I gonna Now, the fact that there are more and more of them tells me something, tells me that there's, there's movement, it's happening. Right, that's what it tells me. But other than that, I wouldn't, I wouldn't look at the genetics, I wouldn't do the genetic evaluation or anything like that. 

The name of the groups Daniel, I guess Nicole will do that. Health and Healing, Parasite Guidance, CFC Guidance. And if you're Health and Healing, We talk about Health and Healing. Everything from fasting to meditation to sleep, to food, to friendship, to love, exercise, and Parasite Group, talk about parasites. 

And you also have a membership automatically in the health and healing and the CFC group we talk about CFCs But you also have a membership in the parasite and the other so that's how it works And you just go to dr. Lodi calm dr Lodi calm and you'll find you can sign up for the [00:28:00] groups there and we can talk interact All right. 

So anyway, as you know, it's only Twitter or X that it's dr. Thomas Lodi MD all the other platforms It's dr. Thomas Lodi. All right, 

so let's get into some questions. Okay? I, I've got, if you could see this, you'd say, what is he doing? Yeah, I got this thing here with, I'm looking at Instagram. And then I, so I've got to read around this. It says this is from Tanya. I just came up, I just came across your video on YouTube as I was researching parasites. My nine, my nine year old son was born with cabalamine C deficiency. 

He needs to take weekly intramuscular shots to be 12. I was wondering if parasites are. are behind his condition, 

 Was wondering and [00:29:00] his doctor says that if it weren't for his blood test, she wouldn't be able to tell he had this deficiency. Overall, he's quite normal except for being on the 50th percentile for height and weight. He's always shorter than his peers 

and he has high homocysteine. 

Except when you were giving him vitamin C, his homocysteine came down. Okay. So, 

could parasites be involved in weight loss? 

Having this deficiency now, that's, I mean, no, it's it's just a, an unfor Go back when, guys. It's just an unfortunate situation that there's, there's this deficiency. But an interesting thing about deficiencies in the, for example, G six PD deficiency, which is an enzyme that helps protect the cell. And, and red blood cells really depend on it anyway. 

If you have this deficiency. [00:30:00] You can't get high doses of vitamin C, IV, and you can't get ozone IV, 

because you'll wind up, the red blood cells won't be able to protect themselves, and they'll burst, then you have a problem. Turns out, if you get the low dose of these, of the vitamin C or the ozone, very low dose, for a while, you upregulate the ability to produce that enzyme, and they, and you can have, now, has this happened with all people? 

Probably not, I've not, you know, worked with all people, but I've seen it happen. And Dr. Schallenberger, a friend of mine who works with ozone, has seen it happen with ozone and I've seen it happen with vitamin C, with ibuprofen, to be able to increase the G6PD. The reason I'm saying that is that whatever deficiency your son may have, there may be a way to upregulate it, to bring it back into function. 

And in this particular case, I [00:31:00] wouldn't know how to do it. I'll have to think about it. 

That's it's it's that that's a tough one. Anyway yeah continue with the weekly shots because of you know B12 is really important for all sorts of DNA replication Nervous our nerves. It's it's it's very important many many functions and Yeah, you got to do it. You got to do it So get the shots continue to get the shots now. 

I don't know if you can do sublingual 

You know, there might be other ways of doing it. It's a bummer to get a shot every, every week, but anyway, for now, you got to do that now, you notice that the vitamin C brought down his homocysteine level, meaning that if he was optimally, if he had optimal nutrition and optimal conditions of living, whatever deficiencies he has will be minimized. 

That's, and we, we've seen that. I, I had years ago, a woman who [00:32:00] had a child who was Down syndrome and pretty, 

you know, like moderate moderately affected where you know, they're severely affected where they can't even, you know, leave leave an institution. They're institutionalized. There's moderate where they're in trouble and they can't really go outside much. And then there's the, and then there's the high functioning Down syndrome. 

Anyway, this one person was moderate, his son, and she fed him raw food at the time he was three, four years old. Graduated high school. with the other kids, not in a special school. You know, in other words, what happened was they optimized his ability to survive to to to function because he had all of the right conditions for for health. 

Okay. So in addition to that food, you had extremely loving and [00:33:00] caring mother and father in the environment. So there was everything was right. And so that what that demonstrates is that even we might have some, we might actually have a genetic genetic condition, right? So, 5 percent of us are born with genetic conditions and by the way, there's the word genetic predisposition blows my mind. 

I have no idea what that means. You either have a genetic problem, you know, predisposed 

Anyway, but that just to show you what I'm saying is that uh uh for Tanya is that I saw this. I mean, it's actually a a relative and I was blown away. So what I would say is maximize his health, make sure he's eating human food and cleansing and all that sort of thing. So we're, you know, that would mean, you know, that's a lot of stuff that, you know, when he's nine years old, you'd still [00:34:00] have a chance. 

He's probably developed really unhealthy appetites at this point. He's living a normal life. So, but we can talk, we join one of the groups, health and healing. Okay, Ashley. 

Forty years old, diagnosed with stage four neuroendocrine carcinoma, have over 50 lesions. It's also in the lungs, spine, shoulders, hips, other bones. It's literally even, it's literally everywhere. Was in a sledding, sledding accident a couple of weeks ago. And had surgery for, oh for, for rectum. Noticed a huge mass in the stomach with ultimate, was ultimately in, ultimately finding them in the liver. Everything was moving so fast, I was diagnosed 11 days ago and I'm already at Huntsman's and started chemo [00:35:00] yesterday. Dr. Sor is my oncologist. I know there are many things I can be doing. Three weeks ago I was normal. Okay, Ashley, when you say three weeks ago you were normal, that means that's how you thought of yourself. 

And so you were doing all these things and you had the confidence to do it. You're still that way. What you've got to do is get back to Get back to that mind thing, not mind and get, throw away their words and realize, yeah, you've got these problems and you've gotta deal with them, but don't use their words and their prognosis and 'cause here at the, you say that it's got a poor prognosis there. 

That's Don't, don't listen to that. Okay. I mean, their guess is it's not, is it? It's unlikely to turn out Well, that's their guess. Well, great. Okay. I don't care what their guess is. Alright. You don't even. You need or anything you can do. There's a lot you can do. You need to do. I need to ask you something. I wish we were interacting because I'd like to [00:36:00] know did you take a Pfizer or Moderna shot? 

Because that would 

anyway, I'm not going to get an answer here, but 

all right. So anyway, I don't, I, I don't, I so the reason I'm asking you is because of the way this comes on and the way, the way you're describing it, it sounds kind of like what they're calling turbo. And anyway, so, 

but yeah, there's many things you can do in chemo. It's not it. If you're going to get chemo, you should get it with, if I were going, if I were working with you and I were going, and I felt like things were moving so rapidly that we needed to use chemotherapy, I would use low dose with insulin so that I could target the CFCs and not the rest of your body and that's what I would do. 

Okay good evening, Scooby the doll. Alright, okay, so it's called insulin potentiated therapy. I've been doing it ever since around 1918 1920. It predates chemo. I was trained by the grandson of the of the man [00:37:00] who invented it and 

it's amazing. So, if you need chemo, that's how you do it. You don't just go and get full blast chemo because that's going to 

wipe you out, wipe you out, wipe you out, and make it and produce metastases and all that sort of thing. So, that's not the way to go about it but we need to you, Ashley, we need to work with you to you gotta clean out. You gotta do some thorough cleansing. We've got to do colon hydrothermic, heavy metal, everything. 

We have biotoxin removers. You know, binders but a balance of hormones. We have to balance your autonomic nervous system. Got to heal your gut. We got to balance. We got to restore your immune system. You got a lot a lot a lot of things. Okay. So, we've got and everything's moving so fast. That's great. 

So, you've got to join the CFC group so that we can talk specifically about you. Okay. Because there's just so much. There's just so much I can't. 

If it's just you and I right now, it's And if we can do this after 2 hours, we wouldn't be done. That's how much information please, please join [00:38:00] now. They're saying it's a very rare cancer. No, no, it's it doesn't often or or 

CFCs occur more commonly in breast pancreas, colon, right? And et cetera. So they don't occur occur usually in the neuroendocrine cells, although they do, it's not that uncommon either. Right? And what can you do other than chemo? I don't know. you can get a lot of stuff if you're getting another, the neuroendocrine are our cells that produce a hormones. 

And you can and part of the symptomatology of this condition could be like especially if it's developed, what's called carcinoid where you get, you get flushing and you can get all kinds of stuff, right? So you know, all kinds of just, you know, you know, flushing nausea from hormones. Now they're in all of biology. 

There's an on and [00:39:00] off switch. For example, things, things that, that, that, that, that initiate a situation, the things that modulate it, bring it down. And there's always a fine tuning that's going on nanosecond by nanosecond. Estrogen and progesterone. That's over, that's actually over a longer phase. 

You know, the estrogen is first, couple weeks of progesterone goes second couple weeks. But still, throughout the cycle, you still have a little bit of each, and they're, they're doing that. Then you've got DHEA and cortisol. So there are, everything has got a yin and a yang. So 

pituitary gland produces growth hormone. And the, also produces the 

hormone that turns it off. Alright, called somatostatin. But somatostatin also turns off a lot of hormones. It's used with, for example, acromegaly. Acromegaly is a condition where [00:40:00] growth hormone is in excess and the person has already grown past that. the point where their bones fuse, right? Your bones fuse at around age 16 to 18 in boys and girls maybe sooner, but around that time is when your bones fuse, if, if, if you get an excess of growth hormone before your bones fuse, you'll become, you'll become a giant. 

After your bones fuse, what happens is now you just, you, you get your, you get, you know, your bones grow, but they're not growing longitudinally. So you'll get, you know, you'll get like 

you know, hypertrophy bones, maybe here and here, you look like Remember the Hulk in that green guy? You know, just, you know, really accentuated bones in the face and in the hands and all that. It's called acromegaly. And so what they use is somatometin. They use, they use 

you know, analogs of it, which are similar, chemicals similar. So they use octreotide and laneotide and these other kinds of chemicals, which can also be used for the carcinoid, which would be the symptomatic [00:41:00] neuroendocrine CFCs. So, if you're having that, it also helps with just slowing everything down. 

So, I don't know if they've got you on that, but they, they can, they should, they should. It's, you don't, not just, we're not just chemo. Plus, you gotta get away from them and you gotta find a good, holistic, integrative oncologist who's gonna, you know, know how to do everything. But you don't, you don't just go to war against your body because that's your body. 

You know, that's not the answer, okay? So, so a lot of endocrine situations hormonal, Problems can be modulated, lessened by somatostatin or their analogs. So you've gotta find somebody or any, even a conventional oncologist should know about. So that's, you know, in terms of chemicals and stuff like that, but we've gotta get to the, we've gotta get rid of, we've gotta look at a biological dentist. 

There's many, many things you've gotta do, like immediately. Okay, Ashley? Because I know you were saying that you're you know, [00:42:00] you've got children and all that. We want to get you through this, and you can. You can. Don't believe them. Whatever they're saying, it's not. You can do this. We just gotta, gotta get you some, gotta get on the, on, on, jump off the train to death. 

Which is where they got you going, I promise you. Onto the train to health. We're going on health. We're not on the disease tour. We're gonna jump into we're back on health. Now, who's on the road to health? Every one of us are trying to restore our health or, or get it for the first time. Every one of us. 

That's the path we're all on. So, you're not unusual. You know, people get diagnosis of COCs feel like they're different. No, no, no. No. You just have a manifestation of toxemia that is has been discovered. And so, what are we gonna do? Get un toxic. Really that simple. Not easy, but that simple. Okay, so now. 

Ashley, [00:43:00] join the CFC 

please. 

Now this is Joy. Joy is saying, question about different forms of Fenben and Ivermectin and their dosing. 

Example, Ivermectin and Fenben come in pill form, paste, and liquid. Are all these forms safe 

for someone doing a basic protocol for the first time? Many say there's no difference. Are the ingredients different for humans? 

And also using zeolite. Bentonite and or diatomaceous earth and you're on an extremely limited budget. Okay. All right, so joy. Yes the Ivermectin and the fembendazole that they're using with animals is the same as the 

there's no difference 

the distinction that for example There's a group of drugs called the benzimidazole. So you have fembendazole, albendazole, mebendazole. There's other [00:44:00] ones 

Someone or some group decided that the fenbendazole is for animals and the mebendazole is for humans and the albendazole is for humans. But, it doesn't matter. Joe Tippins shows us, showed us that the fenbend, which is, fenbendazole, which is supposed to be for animals, you know, he's still in remission. He had the advanced stage 4 lung CFCs and he had chemo, standard chemo, and of course he wound up with 92 or something metastases. 

And MD Anderson told him. Look, not much we can do. Go home and get your affairs in order. They love to say that. So he wound up taking fenbendazole and he's been clear for what, eight years now? So, fenbendazole, obviously not just for him. 

So, so you can get it however you can get it, right? It's affordable for you. The same with ivermectin. [00:45:00] And I would add a third one in there if I were doing it. It's nyclosamide. And nyclosamide you can find at nyclosam. com And that'll come from Lithuania and they'll send it to you. And usually with that one it's 500 milligrams three times a day, or three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, one week off. 

And usually with the fembenazole it's 22 milligrams three times a day, for three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, one week off. Iromagnolin, 12 milligrams, three times a day, on, three weeks on, one week off, one week off. That's for the anticalminthics, the antiworms. And then usually for the antiprotozoals, we look at tenidazole, that's 100 milligrams. 

Depends, like here we can get it to 500 milligrams, usually in the U. S. I think it was 100. Whatever you can get, one or two of them, of the 100s, three times a day. Here, you get 500 milligrams, three times a day, three times a day. The nidazoxonide, which is also called a linea, [00:46:00] 500 milligrams, three times a day. 

These are for the protozoa, these are not worms. The worms are the helmets. That's why you're taking the ivermectin, benbendazole, and niposavine. It's for the worms, okay? These other two are for the protozoa, which are single celled organisms. So, just so we keep keep it straight and understand we're doing three weeks on and won't make off and we're also when we're doing that we're taking hepato protective herbs. 

Hepato stands for liver like you've heard of hepatitis. So, that that prefix refers to liver and then hepato protective protecting the liver. What does that? Silly merit from the milk this 500 three times a day. Alpha lipoic acid 300 three times a day and you gotta take a couple of B complex a day or the [00:47:00] benfotiamine, which is just a fat soluble lipid soluble thiamine, which is B1. 

You might as well take the whole B complex. Alright, now. 

So, I hope, Joy, that's answered your question. Now, the other thing, the diatomaceous earth and all that thing, all those other kinds of binders are very good. You might also consider biotoxin, where do I have one? Anyway, biotoxin from a company called Cellcor, because it's a humic and fulvic acid, which really doesn't bind to nutrients. 

It just binds to the bad guys. I think I have, hold on. I think I have one right over here, but I want to show you. Yes. Yes. 

Yes. Here it is. It's called it's called [00:48:00] by by by cell core. It's phytotoxin. Don't, I'm not affiliated with this company at all. I don't even know who they are but it's a good product. I don't sell things. I don't make, I mean, I don't make money on things. I'm not, don't sell things. 

Remember that. I adore, I mean if, if something works I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I use, right? That you can get it anywhere you want, alright? Alright, so now, 

So, Joy, good, good, good work. Do a juice cleanse, too. Clean your colon, too. Get some exercise, go to sleep early, and eat human food. Whoops. 

Alright, where are we? Now, here's the next question. This is from Vanessa. I have some type of internal, internal mites. I have most of the medicine for the protocol my doctor sent me. 

Your video. You mentioned taking two anti parasitics, but I'm not sure if I have the right ones to get rid of internal mites. [00:49:00] I've had this for almost two years now. It's because all of the twelve doctors I have seen don't really want to bother with this. They are in my nose, my mouth, pretty much everywhere. 

I have the antibiotic, doxycycline, just need to know how much to take of this daily. Thank you in advance. Okay. Wow. 

Wow. Wow. 2, 2, 2, 2 years. , Alright, so mites, so we all know mites and ticks, right? Everyone's aware of ticks because of you know, lys and borella, you know, tick tickborne illnesses. Tickborne illnesses means it's thick carrying them, right? Anyway, so anyway, a a ology, horology, A-C-A-R-O ology is the, is the science devoted to ticks and bite. 

[00:50:00] Imagine that. Yeah. There's the whole science and it's the subfield of Iraq know. Iraq know is you know spiders and and insects. Right. Okay. So, so, or the spiders. So, so the spiders and I mites fall in this categories. That's why I'm talking about it. Okay. So spiders are they're worldwide. 

They're on every continent except Antarctic. Where excuse me, the hydriers where I think there's some stuff going on there and politically, I won't talk about it because that's not, I'm not a political scientist who I just say anything. Anyway so they're everywhere except there and what's very interesting is that so there are lots of spiders. 

In fact, as of last year, there were a little more than 52, 000 species in like 134 families, families. Is a, is a larger category. 

Now, the irrational fear of spiders [00:51:00] is called arachni phobia, but I don't know how irrational that is. I think it's pretty rational. I mean, do you know that Okay, spiders, there are a few, very few that eat plants. The rest are what do they call 'em? Predators. Okay. You know, they only live, they only live about, they live about two years actually, except for the. 

There's one of the tarantulas that can live up to 25 years in captivity, but most of it lived two years. So arachnids have eight legs, which is different than insects, which have six legs. Arachnids don't have antennae, and you know, there's some other differences, anyway. And they don't have to be spiders, you know, they can be in the ocean. 

Anyway, but, it's crazy. There's an estimated 25 million tons of spider species. I mean, 25 million tons of [00:52:00] spiders kill 400 to 800 million tons of prey every year. What? Yeah, 400 to 800 million tons of prey every year are killed by spiders. Okay. There's 25 million tons of spiders. So arachnophobia is not so irrational, according to my thinking. 

I don't like them. And part of their, you know, they belong to a group. You know that they have the front two of their legs are called what? Ceci? Cecilia. Cecilia. Anyway. And that's how they, in fact, that, that is the name of their, their category in, in, in the, in the erect. And these are how they grip and eat. 

And one of them usually is able to produce a venom. Yeah. And so, and, and what they [00:53:00] do when they eat, as you know, they, they'll, they'll paralyze their victim, their dinner, and then they 

put enzymes on them to dissolve them. It's just, it's pretty, pretty, pretty, it's like, it's in the world of disgusting, it's extremely disgusting and extremely a bummer and you don't want to be there. So I don't think it's such an irrational thing. But mites, these mites, okay, so forget the ticks, ticks are like, they're a little bit bigger than mites. 

They're like over a millimeter, I think up to three millimeters and they, you know, they're actually in the group, the subgroup. That is called Paracetalalala. I don't remember the name. It's a Latin name. But meaning that they're pretty much parasites. Whereas the mites, not necessarily parasites, right? 

Some mites live in the water. And some are in the soil actually as decomposers, which is what funguses are, right? [00:54:00] Decomposers. They're not part of food chain. And then, and then they're you know, and then some live on plants producing galls. Have you ever, if you ever want to, if you want to learn something interesting, I know I'm, anyway. 

I was going to tell you, this is how I think, okay. So it's interesting, I think, that these, there's these things called galls that, that can form on plants. And they look like a benign tumor, they look like a wart, that, that we might have, or an animal may have. So it's an outgrowth of the plant as an interaction, as a response to either an insect, or a bacteria, a fungus, I don't even use the word virus anymore, because I don't think they exist. 

In the way we always thought of them. So I don't like to even use the word, because I don't even know what it means. And I don't like to use words where we don't have a shared understanding of the definition, because then we're not communicating. So that's why I don't use it. Okay, but anyway they cause, in other words, it's, [00:55:00] it's the combination of maybe their saliva, or whatever you call it, some, some body part of theirs, with the plant. 

The plant develops this, this, this thing called the gall. And in there they can live and they're, they're, they're nutrient they get nutrients and they can put all their larvae in there. It's a very, it's a very, very interesting thing. There's a whole, there's a whole study on, there's a whole like specialists on, on galls. 

But anyway, so they can so some live on plants and they produce galls and then there are others which are predators, right? And then for humans, the predators are, we all know, scabies, right? Scabies is the, the famous mite. And sarcop, sar, sarcop, sarcoptes. It's it's it's what it's called. And then there's this other there's this other might. What is it that lives on our hair? We'll have them by the way. We have them. You have them. I have them. She has them. He has them. They have them. We have them. It has them. Did I forget any pronouns [00:56:00] there? 

I want to be I want to be pronoun. What is it inclusive? I want to be inclusive. Look at all the pronouns. These little guys live on our hair follicles, around our hair follicles, and and also, and they, and they and sebaceous glands, which are glands that produce sebum, and sebum is like a waxy stuff, it's what, you know, you say, oh, I gotta get a shower, I feel, like, slimy, I said, greasy, that's what it is, sebum, and sebum is what you see with acne and stuff like that, so anyway, they live there, and they can, they can trigger you know, kind of like almost like an allergic reaction, an itchy, scabies, actually the word scabies comes from the latin, which means scratch, right? 

So these demodex, they don't usually get internalized. I mean, they, they don't. You can have some that live on the air follicles in your nose, you could have that, but they don't really get internalized the way you're describing. What you're saying sounds really more like [00:57:00] my asses. Myis Miis, M-Y-I-A-S-I-S. 

How do you say that? Myis. Miis. Anyway, which is fly larvae. Okay. And usually the bot fly. And we've talked about this before. Now we're talking right now, we're in the realm of ectoparasites. Remember, endo parasites are worms and protozoa. Ectoparasites are on the outside of our body. Now, the bot fly, you've talked about is looks like a regular fly. 

But it will lay eggs on you or more likely it laid eggs somewhere else and another insect like a mosquito or some other was in that area and got the eggs on its leg or whatever. And when that insect is 

drinking your blood, both ticks and mosquitoes like to do they drop off the eggs. Those eggs, when they hatch, they turn into larva and another word for the larva [00:58:00] of a fly is the word maggot. I think you can use it but we won't use that word. Anyway, they burrow into the skin and they go everywhere. 

They migrate everywhere. They literally do. They come out of the top of the head. They come out of your nipples. They come out of scar material. They come out of the vagina. Ear. It's just it's it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Okay and and the condition is called my ass. So, obviously, you don't have anything conditioned that extreme. But if it's in everywhere, you said it's in your nose and I'm wondering if it's this come out when you menstruate that 

if you see them moving, it sounds more like, you know, like that. Okay. So it's a fly larvae. Not not a mite because I don't think there's any mites which are erects that go in under the skin and, and, and migrate around and come out. I, there's just none that I know that I've been, I've ever read about or heard about. 

[00:59:00] Okay. So, and a lot of times people have mistaken about that. And then there's Morgellons. Alright, now Morgellons, we're not going to go into it deeply, but Morgellons is where they came up with this term, delusional parasitosis. These are the same guys who say that conspiracy theory. They use the word conspiracy, or the phrase, conspiracy theorist. 

I'm not going to use that word to denigrate anyone saying saying anything that is 

in opposition to the story, to the great story, whatever the story is. By the way, I'm not going to use their terms. I don't use their terms because I'm not in their video game. Okay. And the term that they would use is narrative. I'm not going to use that word. It used to be a great word when it was before it was overused, you know, and the I want to hear a narrative. 

It's just that I want to hear. Awesome. That's awesome. I like that. It's awesome. You want these pretzels? Awesome. Words that, where you [01:00:00] destroy the meaning of a word, I'm not going to get involved with it. So anyway, so the story, if you have a version of the story that's different than what's being presented by the media then you're called a conspiracy theorist. 

Okay, so just like delusional parasitosis. Morgellons is real. It's real. I've seen it. I've had people come in. I've seen it. Alright, and it looks like it'll look like blue and green. threads coming out of the I mean, it's crazy. Alright. And we now know that, you know, there's a lot of research in the area. 

We, it might be from, I'm sorry, this is political. It's not really political because it's affecting our health. So, it's maybe from aerial spraying, you know, and they seem to be in a class that we might call synthetic biology, meaning partly natural and partly not. [01:01:00] So anyway, these guys are real. 

Okay. So, and, and that, you know, that may be, I mean, that's another one, but those are really that those are really, they're different. They're coming out everywhere. They're not. So, I think you might have my, my asses, my asses from a fly larva. I mean, I, I don't know. So, you're on, you're saying you're on doxycycline. 

Normally, doxycycline is 100 milligrams twice a day and you're in this situation. I don't know. What's your, what's, what's there, but ivermectin is always helpful for these guys. So the botfly or you know, 

scabies, which are mites. So, yeah ivermectin, 12, 12, 15 milligrams three times a day is what people would take in a situation like this. You can also get ivermectin as a as a, as a topical agent. And so doxycycline [01:02:00] would be a dad thing can also take one of the benzimidazoles like levendazole. 

or albendazole. It's taken in this case of albendazole. And you know, maybe a linea 500 milligrams three times a day or and maybe a nicosamide. I just wish I knew what, what was really going on, what that was, but those were, and if you can talk to me, Vanessa 

join the parasite group, right? And we'll, we'll get into it. We can interact about your situation. That'll be the best. All right. So, cool. Okay. So, just just I just wanted to remember we were talking before about arachnids having eight legs, insects, having six legs. Well, the arthropod which is the bigger group in which they belong. You've also got centipedes and millipedes which have 188 legs, pears for over 200 pairs of legs. 

So, these guys can have lots of legs, right? So, I don't know your [01:03:00] specific symptoms either because you can use that, you know, if you're and having. You know, if there's a lot of itching and stuff, you know, itching is usually mediated by something called histamine, which is produced by cells, and immune cells it's anti histamines help. 

Anyway, taking baths with epsom salts, 

I just don't know what you have, so it's really hard, so you gotta join that group, okay? So I can, I can help you a little better. 

So remember, usually in those situations, it's ivermectin, labendazole, or albendazole. I think it's metronidazole also. 

Okay. So, 

let's go on to anyway. Vanessa, join, join, join. Okay. So, this is from uh uh Alma and she says it's been it's been find. It's been fine. 

It's been fun. Uh uh uh they found ILC grade two 

intralobular [01:04:00] carcinoma grade two September 4th. I contacted you earlier in one chat around that time. That was 2023. Okay. In left and two in right. Oh, I left breast and right breast. I went to Turkey on cryoablation and localized treatment with immunotherapy direct. Destroyed tissues. Finished by December 2023. 

Successfully. Very good treatment. Parallel with it, I started anti parasitic treatment. Fibromycin Fimban Fibromycin Yeah. You did it. Did it long and it's is for 6 months and then made a break doing it again. Occasionally, also consume 

GC Mock from Japan and me and me of [01:05:00] FAN and doing it again. Occasionally, 

okay, wait a minute. I gotta move this Immune depository is from Russia from Russia. I went to I wanted to inform you about this excellent product. Please check it up. It's called Immunofan, I M U N O F A N dot R U slash E N, I guess for English. I understand during my research that I L C is interlop, interlop, I guess, is more likely to come because of fungus, probably residual from breast milk, created environment for fungal overgrowth. 

I breastfed three babies each over two years. I find that etraconazole is used in those cases, and also So, I don't know what you proposing it but have problem because they find I have RVOT in 2022. RVOT, RVOT, RVOT. Everybody try to remember something. [01:06:00] I don't know all the acronyms and so I a lot of times I don't know what people mean when you use acronyms. 

Just say tell me what you thought. I have no idea what RVOT is 

RVOT therapy. Reverse osmosis therapy. I don't, I have no idea what RVOT is in 2022 and I am on. Metoprolol a beta block, 

right? Ventricular. Anyway, I don't know what you're talking about. Two times a day. There is a warning for etrikonazole regarding heart. I would do soda bicarbonate injections in the breast lab. You don't know of anyone doing it. What would you suggest I do instead of each cortisol? Even tumor tissues destroyed in our necrosis masses. 

Now, I am aware that fungus issues might still be there. Never visited any thing. What? What? What? oncologist? [01:07:00] Covid 

jab. Not even mask or PCR stupid test. Good for you. Yay. Proudly pure blood and chasing conspiracy personal conspiracy is not theory anymore. One more question. Have you heard about Russian cancer vaccine? What do you think about it? 

Russian cancer vaccine. Anybody know about that? 

Let me see if I can find it here. She gave me the URL or whatever. Can I see if we can find it here? 

Oh, it's an mRNA. Okay. All right. No, I haven't heard of this one specifically, but I know that there, I know that people are talking about cancer vaccines. Okay. First of all, understand something. If you're talking about a cancer vaccine, you're Assuming that cancer is a [01:08:00] thing, one specific thing that you can prevent, which is a complete misunderstanding of what chronically fermenting cells are. 

Chronically fermenting cells, this is a, an adaptive process that naturally occurs when a cell loses its ability to have access to oxygen. In order, through mitochondria, in order to have efficient production of energy with glucose. When it loses that, it has to make energy. So it ferments. That situation can be brought about by many things. 

By radiation, by chemicals, by 

microorganisms, nanobacteria, K, B, Y. There are many ways in which the cells [01:09:00] will lose their ability to use oxygen and have to ferment. So it's not a thing that you can develop a vaccine for. So that, that, that, that, that, that, there's no That doesn't work. It doesn't fit. It does. It's not correct. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's operating. 

It, it, it, it exists on an assumption that is 100 percent false. So, you have to understand that. Okay. So, now, now, let's say, let's say, for example, that it were that it were a thing that you could get a vaccine for. MRNA is not a vaccine 

and if you don't believe that because you said you successfully avoided the what they're calling jabs. I don't call it a jab because a jab is A benign thing, you jab your buddy, you go outside, and you get a, you get jabbed by a, by a branch. A jab is a benign little thing, kind of a jab, you know, jab your friend. 

But these things are not jabs. The reason that word was put out there through [01:10:00] the BBC, CNN, Fox, all the reason all the media put that word out there, it's called linguistic manipulation. Because, what happens, the minute it became mandatory we put that word out. So that it downgrade, downgraded it. It's just a jab. 

I mean, I mean, I said jab, did you get jab? I got jabbed in and it became benign thing, and it's not benign at all. If there's an opposite of benign, that's what it is. 

So, please, understand that. So, they're 

Okay, so you're in Australia, Elmer. Interesting. Very nice. 

You guys in Australia? And UK? And Canada? And US? Now, I'm not being political at all, but I'm just gonna say GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN! Nevermind. I didn't say that. Did he say that? Nah, he didn't say that. Why would he say that? He's a doctor. He doesn't talk about those things. Sorry. [01:11:00] Very un doctor thing for me to say. I don't know how I came up with that. 

So shameful, isn't it? Anyway, okay, so that's my, my, my, my, my answer to you is that there are no vaccines for thing that doesn't exist. There's an adaptive process that occurs for many situations, and that adaptive process is necessary for survival at that moment. That's all adaptive processes are. 

For example, you become insulin resistant because you're adapting to the fact that there's so much glucose in your, in your interstitial fluid. Well, that's a survival mechanism and you needed to do that and as soon as you don't need to do that because there's no Glucose you won't do that. You won't adapt in that way So you don't go after the adapt the process you go after the reason why the body was adapting and you eliminate that and then The body won't need to adapt. 

It's very it's It's the opposite approach of the opposite understanding and we've got to know [01:12:00] that we've got to know that. Okay, so Anyway, I was your what was your question? Now, that was a really long one that I read. It was a lot of stuff. So, you took all this stuff. Looks like you're in good shape, right? 

Oh, the e triconazole. Your question was, what can you use other than e triconazole? Well, there's fluconazole, which is similar. Then there's nystatin, which are other antifungals. And nystatin, you can get in a pill form. It usually comes in a a liquid that you swish and swallow. For people that get oral fun they have oral Candida, you know thrush. 

And if you have it in your mouth, you're probably going to have it in your esophagus and maybe on your stomach. So, swish and swallow, they do it that way. And it's usually 500, 000 units per, what is it, 5 cc's? But, you can also get it in the pill form, which is the same, the same 500, 000 units. [01:13:00] And take it in a pill form. 

So there's that. And there's So, the eutroconazole, fluconazole, and then the nystatin. Now, there are other ones, like griseofulvin, other antifungals, that are extremely strong and 

almost always cause liver problems. So, I don't know your situation, how you are right now. 

Oh, I see, okay, so you're, okay, so you're thinking that the 

lobular carcinoma, right? Remember, we, we spoke a moment ago, right? I was talking about describing the structure of a breast, right? A breast has these little sacs that produce milk and those go through the ducts and the ducts all go towards the nipple and the nipples where the milk comes out of. And then the rest of the supporting structure of the breast is fat and connective tissue, right? 

And that's what a breast is. So breast is a gland. It's part of the epithelial, you know, the cells that [01:14:00] line. The outside of the body and there are cells that lie in the inside of the body. So they come from the ectoderm, which is a part of the embryo. And they produce epithelial cells. And therefore, it's called a carcinoma. 

If it's, if they start, if you've got permitting cells. So, if it's in the lob, if it's a lobular one, or a ductal, so then you can have intraductal or invasive ductal, or you can have intralobular or invasive lobular, whatever. Okay, that's all, all we're talking about is where did it start. So, was it fungal in origin? 

Sure. Maybe, yeah. That's a very good reason, right? And, as I said, cells will ferment when they lose the ability to use oxygen, and that can come about for many reasons, which can include microorganisms, which can include, you know, all sorts of things, and a, and a, and a, and a convergence or a confluence of many things, such as microorganisms, radiation exposure mammograms. 

That is not political. It's not political. This is [01:15:00] actually medical, or mammogram. And and hormone imbalance, you put it all together and you're going to wind up with some preventing cells. Alright, so it's never just one thing at all. Please understand that. There's always a multitude of things. 

And also, how about the mind fear? And how about which side of the breast? Depends on your you know, nurture, nurturing side you know, maternal, parental, depending on this side, which is more for your, your relationship with the outside world, like husband. Boyfriends jobs, fathers almost not, you know? 

So then there's those aspects to it. So there's all sorts of variables that come together that result in the requirement to ferment. Alright? So should you continue to take antifungals, which you need to do is restore balance to your body. You need to get, 'cause remember, whatever is like we have, we have an oral biome, microbiome, we have a nasal [01:16:00] microbiome. 

We may have a vaginal microbiome. And we all have a gastrointestinal micro, and we all, and then we have, you know, external, auditory, they're, and they're all over our skin everywhere. Now, all the ones that are inside, which would include inside the breast are, except the, the ones inside the breast are more related to the, the ones that external externally. 

But all the rests like vaginal, nasal, oral, are related to the gastrointestinal bio. So if you have, if you have a healthy bios, in other words, all the. All the microorganisms are in a very good, healthy balance for them and for you. But if that's not quite the case, if there's a little bit of imbalance, we call it a dysbiosis. 

That dysbiosis in the gut will be reflected in the mouth and all the other organs. But out here in the breast it's more related to the to the organisms that live on the skin. And [01:17:00] you want to restore a healthy So that would mean but, but again Getting a health, just the, the, to, to have a healthy gastrointestinal biome is essential for health. 

It's essential for life because they are responsible for and pretty much direct our entire immune system and multiple systems. That, they are not them, they are us. They're part of who we are. Alright, so you need, we need to, you need to correct that. Heal your gut, restore biosis healthy biosis. 

The way you do that is by eating human food, because remember, wherever there's organisms of any size, from elephants to oak trees to I mean what do you call them? Redwood trees, to ants, to bacteria, whatever you have, mosquitoes, they are where they are because there's food. So whatever you're eating is what your gut is getting exposed to. 

So [01:18:00] what you eat will determine what microorganisms are there. That's just the way it is. So the microorganisms that support our health that make us function optimally are ones that live on plant food. 

 Don't know how else to say it. There is no other way to say it. Sorry for people that like corpses. Sorry about that. I'm not sorry. Sorry for you for 

being stuck. 

Hopefully that won't always be the case. So anyway, Elma, 

right? So now, you know, you've got other options for, but you can't, you can't even taking, just continue to take antifungals is not going to do it. You need to restore a balance. All right, because the funguses are not still in there. You, you, you breastfed two years with three children for two years each. 

But by now, that's, you know, that, that, that food source is gone, the residual. I mean, unless, you know, you have, have you checked your prolactin levels? Do you have high prolactin levels? [01:19:00] Prolactin is produced by the pituitary gland that tells the breast to push out the milk. I don't know if you have checked your prolactin levels. 

Let's see if you're still, you know, producing any milk. I mean, to get, to get milk. from your nipple. Anyway, a lot of ways you can look at this Elmo. Join our group. Join the CFC group so we can interact and I can talk to you, okay? Michael, 

my dad has chronic lymphoma leukemia. Takes medicine for it but he wants to know what we can do to fix it so he doesn't need it anymore. Willing to do anything. 

Beautiful. Michael, that's beautiful. If your dad's willing to do anything, so he's got a chronic lymphoma leukemia. 

CLL, I guess. Willing to do anything now, Michael, are you new to, you're new to watching because with pre we're, we're pretty clear [01:20:00] on everyone's gotta do the same things, right? We've gotta all do the same things. We've gotta clean out all potential toxins. Starting with the mouth, starting with the biological dentist. 

We've gotta make sure root canals have gotta come out the proper way by a biological dentist, not a regular. Capitations have to be 

sterilized and sealed the proper way. Periodontal conditions. So, you got to go to a biological doctor. That has to be, has to be second. And this is not necessarily sequentially. It's what we, we, we have to do at the same time simultaneously. Alright, and then you're going to start a cleanse. You're going to do a green juice cleanse with enough fruit to make it delicious for as long as you can. 

If you can do it three months, do it. Do it minimum of three weeks and it's [01:21:00] only it's only difficult 

in your mind For the first three days four days and then it's like well That's easy because you'll feel like you realize you're no longer hungry and it's not hunger. It's appetite realize that but it takes it takes About three to four days. Okay, so we get past that and then you say and then then it becomes easy You just drink a lot of juice till you're peeing all the time. 

You got to clean all Then you've got to get colon colonics. You got to do movement sleep early. There's a lot to it Then you got to eat real food Then you want to stimulate your immune system So there's a lot a lot to this and yeah, if he's willing to do that, then that's beautiful so Michael Join you and or your father join the CFC group and we can Talk about your details. 

Okay. 

Okay. So now 

the Trump's team just spoke on the On this, the other day, 

it says that they will be able to make individual vaccines personalized to each [01:22:00] person. Please, M. M. Helle, I hope you guys heard that there's no thing that you can make a vaccine to. And then if you were making a vaccine, it wouldn't be an mRNA, which is a genetically modifying procedure. That's right. We can't mix up what we're talking about. 

We've got to stay straight. The vaccine for CFC is to live healthy. I'm going to add water to avoid all times. 

That's it. There's not another onE. you can add water to the juice. Sure. Okay. So, anyway, that was that. That was Michael and now Amanda. Amanda is saying that I no longer have CFS. I'm still eating real food. Yay. I have elevated thyroid levels and THFR low. DAO been treated for Lyme and supposedly got [01:23:00] rid of it. Migrates from nearly everything I eat. 

Low urea. Abnormally low blood osmolality. Whoa, okay. Amanda, you no longer have CFCs. Great, that's fantastic. And I hope that's been a while. You're still eating real food, that's fantastic. Elevated parathyroid level. Okay, so we know that 

parathyroid is going to take calcium out of the bone. You 

wind up getting osteoporosis. I don't know what's going on with that, and why you would have elevated parathyroid, but you need to work on that. 

You gotta, you gotta find out what is going on with that now. The MTHFR is, you know, that can be, just like I was talking earlier about the a G6PD can be kind of upregulated, that can be as well. So I'm, so I'm not sure what you're doing for that. Are you doing are you taking [01:24:00] B vitamins? What are you doing for for the methyl, methyl donor, methyl group? 

And if you're going to do B12, it should be methylcobalamin. So I'm not sure what you're doing, Amanda. So. And I don't know what DAO is. I'm not sure if you have a low DAO, whatever. I'm not sure what that is. And then, but you and limes that you supposedly got rid of, okay, migraines from everything you eat, then you have low urea and abnormally low blood osmolality. 

Well, that makes sense because the blood osmolality, the main active substances 

in our blood and one of them is urea, right? Urea, glucose. So Anyway, so that is, makes sense, so if you have a low urea, you could have a low osmolality, but, I mean, now, here's the thing about the, urea is what, you see on your blood test, it says BUN, they look at [01:25:00] BUN and creatinine to assess kidney function, but, a, and then you look at the ratio, so if your creatinine's high, so it looks like you're having kidney problems, they look at the BUN to creatinine ratio to see if it's pre renal, or renal, or post renal, azotemia, or uremia, or And there's different names for the dysfunction of the kidneys. 

So anyway your BUN is gonna be low if you are a vegan, vegetarian, vegan, okay? You just have a low, so it's low compared to the norm who eat the who, who eat animals. So those are, the animals are gonna have a high BUN 'cause BUN is nitrogen, it's urea b, blood urea nitrogen. So the nitrogen is high, right? 

So the BUN, so I have a low BUN everybody that. comes into our center and starts eating the food, their BUN goes down. So, but we don't lose [01:26:00] osmolality. You'd have to be really low. So, I'm not sure what's happening with but I don't know what DAO is. So, Amanda, we gotta, I don't really, I can't really, I don't know how to help you because I don't really understand your situation. 

So, you should join one of the groups so we can interact. Are you there? Anywhere? Oh, DOE. 

Diamine oxidase. So, you had, okay, so you had what you had. 

Wow. I mean, these are like really and you're talking about low, you're, you're low osmolality because who checks osmolality. That's like a, I mean, I don't think I've ever checked anyone's osmolality. I can tell if they're, I can tell, I work with osmolality and make sure that any, any IV I give someone, It's going to be appropriate osmolality, so. 

And very interesting. I, I'm not We need to talk. Yeah. Okay, so Amanda, we need to [01:27:00] interact, so I can help you, because Yay! No CFCs. Okay, so Sandra. Oh. I have rheumatoid arthritis. I'm currently taking 200 milligrams of hydroxychloroquine twice a day and 6 milligrams of viremectin two times a day. What recommendations for rheumatoid arthritis? 

Blood work showing parasite infection along with EBV and rheumatoid arthritis. Rheumatoid factor is high. Rheumatoid factor is high. 

I am currently taking, okay, you're taking hydroxychloroquine twice a day. You're taking six milligrams of ivermectin twice a day. And what is your recommendation for rheumatoid arthritis? Blood work showing parasitic infection along with EBD and rheumatoid factor is high. Okay, so, if you're saying that your blood is showing that you have parasitic infection, that means you have high eosinophils, I'm assuming, and if they looked at your lymphocyte subset, then they would have found out that you're. 

Polarized to the TH two. [01:28:00] That's the only two ways I would, I can imagine being able to say that your blood is in indicating a parasitic 

and EBD Epstein-Barr virus. I think 99% of the people have EBD have been exposed to whatever EBD is. I've been exposed to it and have the antibody. I'm not sure what meaning with what you mean. So normally they check, do we have the IgG to the Epstein bar, which is the. a chronic antibody. So if you have the IgM, that means you just got infected with the virus. 

If your IgG is going really high, that means you're getting you're having a problem with whatever EBD is. The rheumatoid factor is one of those, it's kind of like ANA which are basic kind of anomalies of the immune system that are indicative of autoimmune. And so rheumatoid arthritis is considered an autoimmune, meaning [01:29:00] that the body, the immune system is going after the body itself. 

It's very different than osteoarthritis. So rheumatoid arthritis is an antibody mediated as opposed to osteoarthritis, which is wear and tear of the joints by, by living. 

Your question was, what's my recommendation? 

Well, okay, so my, my recommendation you're, you're asking relationship to anti parasitics. Well, you know, you're doing, you, you hydroxychloroquine the ivermectin in, in, in. What I have found to be more effective is like 12 milligrams, three times, and I would always add ab benam, midaz, all like me, benol, albendazole, penole. 

And I would add nide. I would, so we have all three of the anti-man as we've discussed, and I would get an anti ProTool such as tenaz all or, or oxide, which is also linear. So I would add to those if I were, if I were doing, if I, if I were [01:30:00] working with somebody who needed. that's what I would do. And then so, so rheumatoid factor, ANA, all those things are, are, are, are not causes of anything, they're just, they're just, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're the part of the way the body's responding to a situation that, and we, that we call autoimmune. 

And to me, autoimmune really means that there's something in the body that our immune system has detected that we haven't, we're not sure what, we can't detect it. So if we can't detect it, we say it's autoimmune because we think that it's These, these these immune cells are, are these immune irregularities are just happening because they're stupid, is what we think. 

The body's stupid, it's attacking itself. And it's never the way, that's never the case. The body's seeing something that we can't see. That's it. So what does that mean? You got to do that. It means you've got to cleanse thoroughly. You've got to cleanse thoroughly. You've got to cleanse thoroughly, starting with the mouth, biological dentists. 

And I'm going to [01:31:00] say this until we're all nauseated, ad nauseum. Okay. Biological dentistry, ah, a hundred percent. Cleansing, colonics, fatting, exercise, balancing hormones, balancing autonomic nervous system, healing the gut, balancing the immune system, learning to meditate, to turn off the mind, movement all day, sleep early stop eating for 18 hours a day, eat in a six hour window or less, stop eating five hours before sleep. 

Go to sleep early, stay well hydrated, and laugh, and hug. Put your feet on the ground without shoes. Touch, touch that. Hug people. Everybody you see, just hug them. 

Pets, trees, go to the beach, go to the river, go outside on your lawn. If there's [01:32:00] no pesticides on your lawn, then barefoot. If there are, don't go there, go somewhere else. Can't go to a park, eh. So, anyway, you gotta find a place to get your feet on the earth. Okay, feet, dirt, earth. We don't like the word dirt, right? 

Because it's pejorative. We like the word earth. Put our feet on the earth. Yeah. Alright. So, now yeah, Sandra, I'm not sure if I answered the question. I'm not. Anyway, join the parasite or the general home. Now, this is Jackson with an X. 

Hi, long story short, been doing parasite killing over a year or two and have annoyed them. They migrated to my eyes, sinuses, genitals, and pretty much everywhere causing me. I'm having extreme traumatizing discomfort and drastically changing my mood at times. 

 Need help. I've seen Dr. Lodi videos about him talking with my GP. I have [01:33:00] the medicine and the doses he mentioned but I don't know if I need extra help or just purchase myself. I don't have any more at the moment in Bali trying to detox other things but being attacked by parasites whenever they feel like it. 

I have to catch a plane back to Australia. It's running out of money. Wow. Alright. Jackson, I don't know if you're still in Bali or if you've gone back to Australia but now the way you're describing these parasites 

that they're they're they're everywhere. 

They've migrated to your eyes, your sciences, your genitals. So, okay. Again, the only things that do that are the larva of bot flies. I mean, there's some parasites that like Lola which you get, you know, in Africa. But all over that, including the, including the, you know, from the eyes, sinuses, the genitals, [01:34:00] you know, I'm thinking again, an ectoparasite, but, but, but, but fly and vibramectin is very good. But with these butterflies, you really have to ever come out of your skin. Have you seen them? Are they come out? 

You've seen them because what usually have to do with these kinds of situations is cover your skin with something that's going to prevent them from breathing, right? So people use peanut butter. I've heard people use the peanut butter or some Vaseline or any, anything that's going to like seal the skin off so that they're, they can't breathe and they're going to come. 

So, one woman that I knew from South America would put peanut butter on her body for a while and then get into the bathtub where they would come out and they would come out the top of her head. They would come out of her skin. They'd come out of her scars out of her navel. 

Yeah, it's a it's a terrible thing. And then, you know, they so, I mean, that's what it sounds like. I, there's, I [01:35:00] don't know if let's we're talking about more gallons, but more gallons is a little different that. Although, you can feel things moving around. But other, I mean, I, you know, it's so, I, I, all I'm saying is 

changing your mood. Yeah, of course. I'll be happy to talk to your GP. Happy. You gotta get, get into our parasite group. Come on, Jason, Jackson, join the parasite group. And let's, let's talk because your situation is, I can't, I can't really address it because I don't have all the information, and I need to talk with you. 

That's why, that's why I have these groups. This is why I wanted to do it. Okay, Nips. The name is Nips. Hi, I'm on a healing journey, yay, from Breast CFCs, on AOV IV ozone. 

Auto, AOV 

IV ozone. You know me, MAH, Major Auto Hemo IV ozone therapy at the moment. It is, it is alright to incorporate glutathione therapy as [01:36:00] well. Thank you very much. Okay, so NIPS, breast CFCs is the situation. Ozone is very good. If you're doing MAH, major autohemo, which is where they take out about 200 cc's of blood, it goes into a like a glass vacutainer. 

They add in about 200 cc's of ozone. Usually at around 40 gamma, and you shake it very slowly, if you don't want to. break the red blood cells, it turns bright red, and then you infuse it back into your body. That's what you mean, and if that's what you mean, you should be doing it, if you can, twice a day, as many days as you can. 

Also, high dose of vitamin C, but you should be sipping vitamin C 7 to 7. And I hope you know the protocol, 8 grams of powdered sodium ascorbate in a liter of water, and you sip it slowly from 7 to 7, meaning each sip will be small enough so that you absorb it [01:37:00] all, and then you can augment that by taking liposomal water. 

Sodium ascorbate, you'll be taking one to two grams three times a day just to make sure that you've got enough Ascorbate, then when you get your IVs three times a week, they will easily go up to the Oxidative range and be able to directly kill CFCs, right? So if you're doing if you're maxing out your ozone and your vitamin C, you want to also max out vitamin A Mixed carotenoids, not just beta carotene, mixed carotenoids You want to be taking it so that when they do your blood tests and they look at your vitamin A level, it's at the upper limits of normal, whatever the range is for your lab. 

Vitamin D, you want to get your level above 100. D3, so you're going to take what you need. It's 30, 000 units a day, 40, 000, whatever it is to get you melatonin at night. You want to go as high as 180 milligrams. You'll work your way up slowly. You want to get your your iodine and your thyroid straightened [01:38:00] out. 

That's a whole story. And your adrenals. It goes balanced. 

Do a cleanse, juice, biological dentist. I mean, there's so much that you should be doing NIPS. Should you get IV glutathione? The answer is no, from me. And because you'll be protecting the CFCs as much as you're protecting the non CFCs. However, if you do intravenous NAC and acetylcysteine, the non CFCs are much better at making glutathione. 

So you'll be preferentially Helping them be helping a little bit with the CFCs, but more, more than non CFCs. 

But what time is it? Oh nine. Oh, okay. Well this is a great, Hey, listen Carla, this is a great, 

great complicated question and it's already after nine, so I'm going to take you number one next week. Carla [01:39:00] was about, she wanted to know about, would I please take some time to explaining what seems to be the foundation of health in Chinese medicine, which is the kidney. Oh, and the kidneys and the kidneys covering the bones. 

Okay. And the and the and the kidneys and the adrenals, bone marrow, uterus doctors are no help. You're right. Alright. Number one, that's your number one on on next Sunday. Okay. Or Monday morning wherever you are. You're in Australia. It's Monday morning in the US or anywhere on that side. It's Sunday night next week Carla that we're going to start with that. 

Okay, you guys. So, so what do you got? so much. Namaste. 

Yeah, you guys. Fantastic. We made it and it's another week and be, 

be careful. Be aware. And 

I gotta answer this one question by hand. How bad were the vaccines before the COVID [01:40:00] injection? We have never needed, ever, ever have we ever needed, never, ever, never, ever, ever, ever, ever have ever needed a vaccine, ever. Anyone ever has needed the inoculation of illness. We have never, and we will never need a, 

we need to maintain our immunity, our immune status so that we can deal with exogenous things that could disrupt our health. So we need a strong immunity, but that is not how you get it, from injecting anything. They don't work, none of them, and that would be fine if it was just that they didn't work. 

What did they do? They cause 

Everything. 

Just, they cost problems. We don't need a vaccine. You don't [01:41:00] need a vaccine for anything. You just need to get healthy. You live healthy health. Just listen. Here's a very, this is a very important secret. I want you to write it down and remember it forever. And that is, we're looking for health, right? That's our goal, right? 

Not to get rid of anything. Health. 'cause we have health, we don't have any problems. Now there's only one way to get there. 

There's only one way to get there. And that's by healthy, but 

you can't. Negotiate it. You can't demand it, you can't purchase it, you can earn it, period. There's no other way. There's no other way. So I mean, there's no other way. And if we know that, we know that, then we don't consider any other way and we just, we start living healthy. And then we got, then our goal is, what does that mean? 

Since we didn't grow up learning that no one taught us how to live healthy, right? They just taught us how to, they just showed us what they were doing. Right. And, and when we look at, we, we look at our parents and we look at our family. We look at. [01:42:00] And we see that they're not doing too good when they get older and they're in trouble. 

I mean, gosh, I don't sure I want to follow these directions. And we realize that. Then we say, I got to find out how to live healthy. And that's what we're doing here. So that join the health and healing group. That's, that's, we're going to talk about how to live healthy, how to stay healthy, how to achieve health, what is health and how do we get there and how do we stay there? 

That's what we want to go. Then nothing else matters if we have that, right? So that's what we're looking for. We want to be restored to health or we want to achieve it. Okay. All right, so you guys, so please like join these groups so we can interact. All right. So, 

and stay safe, you know. 

Oh, there we go. There's that, and then there's. 

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