Episode 140 - 3.23.25 Your immune system is the miracle—not your medicine.

In this illuminating Sunday Night Live session, Dr. Thomas Lodi delivers a paradigm-shifting perspective on healing chronic diseases by addressing their root causes rather than simply treating symptoms. He begins by clarifying that he maintains only three official groups—health and healing, parasite guidance, and CFC (chronically fermenting cells)—and warns against imposters using his name.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Dr. Lodi dissects conventional treatments like Selective Internal Radiation Therapy (SIRT) for liver tumors. While acknowledging their occasional necessity, he explains why these approaches often fall short: "Even if you eliminate this tumor, there are literally thousands of microscopic tumors you can't see. Taking off one isn't going to change the whole process—you've got to cut off the supply."

Dr. Lodi explores the remarkable multi-faceted benefits of anti-parasitic medications like ivermectin and fenbendazole beyond their known uses. He details how ivermectin activates glutamate-gated chloride channels, changes tumor microenvironments, functions as an epigenetic regulator, induces autophagy, activates tumor suppressor genes, and inhibits metastasis pathways—all while sparing healthy cells.

Perhaps most powerfully, he addresses the mind-body connection, stating unequivocally that "nothing is more powerful in either allowing healing to happen or blocking healing from happening" than our psychological state. He urges listeners to abandon limiting medical terminologies and remember their true identity as "dynamic human beings making 37 million new cells per second."

For those with hormone-positive breast cancer, Dr. Lodi offers a sophisticated alternative to conventional hormone blockers by explaining how to restore natural hormone balance using bioidentical hormones and phytoestroge

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Chapters

• 1:34 Introduction and Group Announcements
• 9:04 Addressing Liver Tumors and SIRT Treatment
• 23:31 Debunking Misinformation: The Power of Anti-Parasitic Medications
• 39:09 Understanding True Healing: Mind and Immune System Connection
• 54:38 Parasite Protocols and Treatment Reactions
• 1:05:26 Hormone-Positive Breast Cancer and Natural Approaches
• 1:21:54 The Role of Balance in True Healing

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:47

Good morning, good evening. Welcome to Sunday Night Live everyone. It is Sunday night right In America, america, yeah, okay, cool, let me just make sure something here. Anyway, where are we? So? Oh good, so we're starting to come here. All right, alexander, you're welcome, my pleasure, that's what makes life fun for me. All right, we have enough people here. Can we do this here? That doesn't help. That doesn't help Over here.

Speaker 1: 1:21

To you guys over there, there's the thing. Okay, remember where you guys are, the camera. All right, you know what. Let's get into it, let's get into it. We have these. Where's the questions? Where's get into it? Let's get into it. Um, we have these. We have the answer. Where's the questions? Where's the questions? Here's the questions. Yay, all right. So now what's it? March 16th? No, wait a minute, you guys. Sorry, I'm okay. So I don't know how that happened. Let's go back to that. There, we go, all right. How weird, okay. Yeah, turn off your vp. Okay, Old news, come on. There, we go, all right.

Speaker 1: 1:55

So, anyway, I'm going to make some announcements here. Just, you know, a reminder that we're on. We have three groups only health and healing group, parasite guidance group and the CFC group. Right, only three groups. Right, only three groups. So if there's anything else out there, they still have that telegram group up. I can't believe people are joint. Still, why are you guys still joining on the telegram group when I have right on there that this is not me and I see you're still joining? It's crazy.

Speaker 1: 2:22

And oh, maybe you just want to see what's going on. I guess I'm. It's weird, isn't it very weird? There's a group with my name. Yeah, anyway, the inner. What is it called? Um? What do you call it? Finally took my name off their protocols. There was a group on um. What was it called? It was called. It was crazy. They had me on, uh, first med, I think first med, and at first med, where is it? First med had me up. I had my video up and they were selling dr lodi's protocol wasn't my protocol at all. I didn't even know these people, anyway. So apparently they're taking it down. We got a letter, we sent the letter to them and they're going to take that down. That's great, take my name off it. I like that.

Speaker 1: 3:03

And then I haven't heard anything else about Mr Romance. He's still skirting around the cobwebs of cyberosity and looking for emotional quickies, but I'm sure maybe he found someone else to impersonate. All right, so we only have three groups and that's it, and these live streams and then the website. That's it. Okay, but remember, it would be great if we could all begin to start using X, because at some point in time people are going to rumble. Linkedin, youtube, facebook and Instagram are going to probably do to me what they did to me on TikTok Fuck thick, what is it called TikTok?

Speaker 1: 3:45

You know, tiktok's got the most controversial weird stuff up there about the moon landing not being real. Can you imagine it might not be real, oh my god, anyway, uh, yeah, yeah, it just might not be real. Yeah, I mean, you mean, they didn't have that kind of technology back then. No, don't you remember what we had back then? We had what those real to those we'd watch. We'd watch movies on these big reels at home and with film, and here they had the technology on those on the moon. Oh, right now, they can't do it too well anyway, so, uh, but that's on tiktok and all kinds of stuff around.

Speaker 1: 4:26

But when I mentioned things like oh my god, okay, now I want you all like to your ears, hold your ears the health benefits of propolis, bee pollen. Oh, yes, I said it out loud. Can you imagine All like all that I have to say they took me down for that. That was one of the reasons they banned my video. But you can have a video with somebody that has their I don't know something bizarre and it's controversial, I don't know like what's his name?

Speaker 1: 4:58

Obama, that guy there. He had a wife who there was some controversy on whether or not she was an XX or an XY, but they have that stuff up there. That stuff's up but B, but propolis. My God, how can I talk about such a thing? Anyway, so they've taken me down off that. So you got to just imagine. If they're taking me down for such things like that, I'm going to be off everything else. So let's switch over to X. And that's the only one of the as they call them handles, and that's the only one of the as they call them handles. Okay, is that called a handle? At drthomaslodymd? Okay, everyone else Instagram, facebook, youtube, linkedin. At drthomaslody Right, okay, website drlodycom, and you can get on.

Speaker 1: 5:45

You can join the three groups that way. Just join the three groups that way. Get on there. And you can join the three groups that way. Just join the three groups. That way, get on there and you can join the three groups. Then, instead of me not being able to ask, answer your questions directly, I can answer questions because I want to answer, I want to interact Right, and, believe me, when I get on these, when we get on these groups, you know, it's not like one hour, we wind up doing three hours.

Speaker 1: 6:19

So anyway, and just as a reminder right now, anyone you know, if you join the CFC group, there's another aspect to it. You have. You have access to and you become part of something called Kathy's Corner, which is a. It's a group where people are in a safe environment. You know, in terms of confidentiality and in terms of being around, other people who will understand and you know and not be, I don't know, judgmental or whatever, because they're all everyone. We're all in the same group, we're all in the same boat. It's kind of like it reminds me of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Right, in Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous, you're with a group of people who share your major problems in life and for that reason you've got a level of camaraderie that you can't get. You know, like the non-alcoholic, the alcoholic doesn't really care too much about what the non-alcoholic is talking about because they don't know and they feel more comfortable talking to the alcoholic because they have same thing with. You've got CFCs. You've got cfcs, it's, it's, it's. You've entered into a world of trauma post-traumatic and current traumatic psycho-emotionality that only someone else who's been through that can understand it to the degree that makes you feel safe to talk about it, right, right, I mean because they get it. They get it, except for me.

Speaker 1: 7:36

I have been watching very closely for decades and I'm right there, plus, I was born with this. I don't know when I'm talking to somebody or with somebody, I am them looking at me. I don't know how it happens, but that's it. So I really I'm like, I feel it's not that. I feel it's that I truly, I really become us. So for me it's different.

Speaker 1: 8:04

I can join these groups but other than that, you want people that have been, that are down on that same thing, that they understand. So Kathy's Corner is fantastic and it just started. It's a new feature. So when you join the CFC group, that's part of it and it meets separately on a Saturday our Saturday, our Saturday, our Sunday, your Saturday yeah, it's your Saturday at 3.30 PM, pacific Standard Time. It's our Sunday at 5.30 am and we have some more stuff coming up soon. We've got Darren's kinesiology and we've got Vanessa's and we've got Garfield, the incredible Michelin raw chef, going to start giving having not free, but, yeah, part of our group is going to have episodes of, you know, consistent episodes of him presenting, of him making food, yeah, and teaching us how to.

Speaker 1: 8:56

Hey, yeah, I get it. Guys, all right, I got in order to get healthy. I've got to do this. Ok, I guess. One question how, how do I do it? And it's a big question, right, I get it. I know what I need to do. How do I do it? I want to give the how, right, I don't want to just make give you. If I just say, hey, you got to do this, and I don't tell you how to do it, all I've done is added more stress. No, the only thing that will help me and I don't know how to do it, yeah, I know that's crazy, right? So I definitely don't want to be part of that absurdity. So we have Darren and Vanessa will help in that.

Speaker 1: 10:08

Andfield, the Michelin raw chef, mrc nickel. By the way, I did a. I was on Paul Nissan. You all know Paul Nissan. If you don't. You should get to know him, paul Nissan and I so, and he is got a.

Speaker 1: 10:17

He's somebody I knew back in New York, back in the day when it was all starting, when it was 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003. I think, went up to you know, we had Organic Gavin and we had what do you call it? What was that? Organic Gavin? And we had what was that? Pure Food and Wine, quintessence, all these fantastic places to eat and hang out, and David was still David Wolf in those days. He wasn't advocating eating. Anyway, he was a different guy, a different guy than he is now, and he still thought that kale was cool, can you imagine?

Speaker 1: 10:55

Anyway, paul was there, donna Peroni and Fred Bishi, and you're saying, who are these people? Well, you'll know who they are because I'm going to be doing podcasts with them, a series of them. They've all been Paul, who had me on last week and I'll be on again this week. Live on, what is it? It's your Tuesday, my Wednesday, your Tuesday afternoon. Look, this is Paul Nison N-I-S-O-N. He's been raw for 35 years, 100% uncooked food, for 35 years and guess what? Not only alive and got more energy and clarity than all of us. So I'm going to be on there again because, answering questions A lot of people have questions from his side of the world group. You're all welcome to join that. Okay, because it'll be a live something this week.

Speaker 1: 11:46

My 7 am, so I don't know, because of daylight saving times or whatever you call it. Daylight saving who the stupid thing? Who called it? Where'd they come up with this? Because we're too stupid to learn how to monitor our lives, so we're going to change the clock so that we can fool people into being. Anyway, it's yeah, I kind of like it. All right, good, so I don't know what time it is, but let's say 7 am here on Wednesday is wherever you are, that's where it will be Okay.

Speaker 1: 12:15

And then we got another one coming up with Dr Jen Simmons. You know Dr Jen Simmons. You know Dr Jen Simmons. I think it's called Keeping Up Breasts. She was a highly fellowship-trained breast surgeon for many years in Pennsylvania until she saw the light. And now she doesn't take them off, she saves them. She's amazing, she's brilliant, and so I had her on. You'll see, if you go look under podcasts, under drlodycom, and you look at the podcast, you'll find a recent one that I did with her. She was on mine and I'll be on hers soon. We got some other stuff coming up the Beljanski thing and then some other thing happening, I don't know. Anyway, it should be announced on our website. I think it's announced on our website.

Speaker 1: 13:01

We'll have to ask this guy Name Hi. Is all of these things that are coming up announced on the website? Imagine they are. I can't imagine that he wouldn't do that. And that's it. Let's get on to it. Let's ask these questions. Let's ask these questions.

Speaker 1: 13:13

Okay, now this is from hi, my husband. Oh, okay, julie, the name is okay, so it's Julie. The husband's name is John. My husband has been told he has a small tumor on his liver portal vein. They're going to do that's usually something to do with the breast. So you must be, you must mean S-I-R-T. I've been immune therapy. His diet is vegan and juices frequently. He was thinking about taking ivermectin. Would this be all right? And john for sure. You know um, but I think yeah. So let's go on this here.

Speaker 1: 13:53

The question I have what I would have if we were interacting, if you were on the group they were cfc group we could talk about this. My question would be so it's only on the vein, I mean on the in the vein, in the vein or around the vein squashing it, or it's coming from. Is it on the liver or is it on the vein, or is it in lymph nodes squashing the vein? Anyway, and I'm wondering if they've done any excuse me, I'm sure they have done tests to find out whether or not it's um, started in the liver, or it started perhaps in the colon or lung or breast or somewhere else in can't, not breast, but uh, liver, colon pancreas, colon pancreas, uh, lung, and then went to the liver. So I'm not sure what that is, but there is a treatment. It's not s, not S-E -R-T, it's S-I-R-T, which is selective internal radiation treatment.

Speaker 1: 14:45

Acronyms, these acronyms, man, because if you say the acronyms, we don't doubt anymore. We know that you're brilliant, we know that you're totally smart because you know all the acronyms. If you know an acronym, I mean you don't know the acronym, I know the acronym. Anyway, so the acronym S-I-R-T is different than S-E-R-T, which is selective estrogen receptor. Yeah, okay, right, and they're different, but ooh, right, okay. That's why I hate them.

Speaker 1: 15:12

Why can't we just speak? I am going to finish this book very soon. You guys got to read it. It's called the Coming Dark Ages. Yeah, I mean, you better read it. You better read it. Why you can't? Because you won't be able to read it soon.

Speaker 1: 15:32

Anyway, so with the S-I-R-T they use yttrium. Of course, this is not a kind of word that anyone would ever. Just, if you were making up a language, you would never make up a word yttrium. Right up a language, you would never make up a word yttrium, right? Well, if you would, then yttrium-90, it's an element that's been modified so that it emits nuclear energy, right? All chemical energy has to do. When we talk about chemical bonds and chemical reactions, we're talking about the relationship between the electrons that are orbiting the atoms or molecules. Right Now, remember, all of this stuff is highly advanced speculation because nobody has ever seen an atom, I don't know, anyway, but that's what chemical reactions are. Nuclear reactions are when the nucleus, which is the protons and neutrons, you get a change in there.

Speaker 1: 16:25

Okay, so this yttrium-90 is administered in these little small beads and the interventional radiologist injects them through, usually the hepatic artery, and the reason they use the hepatic artery hepa means liver, hepa hepatic makes it an adjective artery, hepatic artery, which is the artery that brings the blood from the heart to the liver right Now. This is very different than the portal vein which you were talking about, your husband. The portal vein is the vein that comes. Remember, veins drain back to the heart and arteries go from the heart. So the portal vein is derived from all of the veins, little venules, which turn into bigger veins that drain the whole intestines, from the colon up to the stomach. They all drain into this one big vein called the portal vein, which goes to the liver. And the reason it does is because anything that's being absorbed through the whole gastrointestinal tract needs to go through the liver to be detoxified before it gets into the systemic.

Speaker 1: 17:33

Another one of those God tricks God just, oh, no, it wasn't God. I forgot, I forget that randomly happened, it was a random event. It was a random event, okay, right, because out of nothing, suddenly everything appeared. It just didn't appear. It was a big bang. Yeah, you know what happened after the big bang? Because of the laws of randomness, because everything's random. Remember, there's no intelligence in this universe, are you kidding? It's all random. So, okay, out of nothing, everything exploded and randomly fell into perfect order. It's just. You know what can you say? It's just the way it is.

Speaker 1: 18:12

These yttrium-90 beads are delivered and they with ours. They radiation and they'll kill tissues. So what are the potential problems? Well, it'll go to normal, it'll hit normal tissue. So what the radiologist has to do is kind of map out the vascular pattern of the liver, of the arterial system, going in there.

Speaker 1: 18:29

Why do they use the artery and not the portal vein? Because CFCs, chronically fermenting cells. For those of you that are just joining, that's what we call Sagittarius, joining, that's what we call sagittarius. Leo, gemini, um virgo, uh, scorpio, no, no, aquarius, pisces and aries, no, cancer, that's it, that's what we call cancer. And um, we look because why? That's what it is. They are chronically fermenting cells. They're not astrological signs. Hey, I've got an astrological sign in my body. No, no, fermenting cell. Okay, so there are cfcs.

Speaker 1: 19:03

So the reason is they a vascular network, they, they, it's, uh, they in, they, there's chemicals that are induced to stimulate the proliferation of these new blood vessels. Because they need that, because they can't grow one millimeter like any other cell without having a blood supply. So they need a blood supply, so they keep growing them. But these red blood, these blood vessels, are not normal blood vessels with smooth muscle in them that are responsive to the autonomic nervous system? Right, they're not. So they don't have that. So they're just kind of like spaghetti, right, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 19:37

But they're all connected to the arterial system. So, like 85, what more? The blood going to these tumors are from the hepatic artery, whereas with normal cells in the liver, about one-third of the blood going to the cells is the artery and two thirds is from the portal vein, because it's busy taking care of detoxification and since the CFCs are not involved in that, they're just getting out. So, anyway, by using the hepatic artery, they have a more of a chance of you know, they have more of a chance of getting to the target, okay, but they also this has got to be able to localize it down to a very small arterial segment that is getting to there. Is that possible? Possibly? Well, does it happen? No, not that often.

Speaker 1: 20:28

So what's? What's the problem? The problem is you wind up killing normal tissue, you wind up causing infections, you wind up causing bleeding, you wind up causing more problems. Now, this is very similar to another acronymic that interventional radiologists like to do to people with CFCs, and that's called TACE, t-a-c-e, and this is transarterial chemopembolization. Oh my God, yeah, okay, so we have TACE and we have CERT. I mean, if you don't know what those mean, I mean you're not cool, you're not smart, you can't consider yourself educated, all right. So what's the difference between TACE and CERT? Well, cert is radiation. They go through it, they target, and these little tins are radiation. The other one, tace, is they send in chemo, embolization, chemo. In both cases you wind up causing major problems, sadly.

Speaker 1: 21:26

And the other thing too, is to keep in mind that these are procedures that are based upon the mindset that we've got to kill this stuff. Now we do want to eliminate tumors Absolutely, but more importantly is we want to remove the reason why they're happening, because if we can eliminate why they're happening, they're not going to continue, that we're not going to get new ones, first of all. And secondly, these aren't going to be able to grow because all the whatever's required for them to grow has been eliminated. So they're going to just sit there and now they're going to be susceptible to the immune system, but also you're going to be doing other things. But anyway, fundamentally we want to stop, eliminate the reason why these things are happening, and not just the military operation.

Speaker 1: 22:17

And then we've got to wake up the immune system, because the immune system, if it's awake 100%, there are no tumors anywhere in the body. I mean, yeah, now I'm looking for a miracle. God gave us the miracle, this immune system. Miraculous. You just got to let it do its job. Take your foot off the brakes of the immune system and watch it just clean up.

Speaker 1: 22:39

And the number one reason that we've got our foot on the brakes of the immune system is our minds, which are full, full full of doubt and fear. That's it Full of doubt and fear. And the problem is that the minute you walk in the hospital, the minute you think about the hospital, the minute you think about a hospital, the minute you think about an oncologist, the minute someone says the word Sagittarius or Leo, any of those words your mind is your immune system. Psychoneuroimmunology, psychoneuroimmunology okay, there's nothing more powerful in either allowing healing to happen or blocking healing from happening. Nothing more powerful, nothing more powerful. Okay, nothing more powerful. So does it deserve any of our attention? But we don't. We're always looking for this or that. Will this work? I want to get rid of my. It's the Rockefeller and I'm going to In this book that's coming up.

Speaker 1: 23:45

I'm going to explain in a little more detail about who this guy is. This Mr John D Rockefeller, who was and is descendant, by the way, on the maternal side. Is it on his maternal side? I think it's three or four generations from Rockefeller. Here's a guy named William Henry Gates III just happened to be the founder of Microsoft. Did you ever see that video of him where he's being questioned by Congress for doing the same thing? His great-great-great-great-great-great-granddaddy did violate the antitrust laws. Have you ever seen that thing? He's in this autistic. Have you ever seen that? If you haven't seen that, you've got to find it on the Internet. It's a great picture of William B Gates, billy Boy, that they want you to be at war against, and they've got you to war against yourself Now.

Speaker 1: 24:37

So this SIRT would be perfect if you could get exactly to the tumor and you could do that, but in real practice it doesn't happen. So what's actually better? Because even if you, let's say you eliminate this, so it might be really important if you had, let's say, a large tumor that was causing major problems like obstructing and things like that, then it would make sense to like, well, we got to eliminate this one, or, or, you know, do surgery or something you know there's, if there's a way to get rid of something. Otherwise, if they're, if really large or causing obvious, you know, obstruction or problems, then, uh, cutting them off won't help, because there's there, there's no, you can't see them. There's like, no, you can't see them. There's like thousands, literally thousands, little microscopic tumors. So just by taking off one is not going to change the whole process, right? So really you've got to focus your attention on eliminating the stem, right? You cut off the supply and they're all gone. So that's really where our focus has got to be and you don't need to be misled.

Speaker 1: 25:40

So the only time you really want to find the best treatment, the best therapy that's most effective, is when there is one or two or whatever, that are not allowing your physiology to exist. Understand, it's a function, all right. So please keep that in mind. So the cert and what I recommend for your husband, julie, would be that he find somebody to work with. That will.

Speaker 1: 26:05

Now, what I don't know, I'm sorry, julie, what I don't know about John is is this tumor blocking already the portal vein? And is he like all, yellow and unable to eat and getting sicker and sicker? Then that's another story. Then we've got to go after it somehow, and that might be one way. You know, there are other ways. There's, uh, there's external and there's sometimes sometimes surgery, but I, I don't really know the situation. I don't know if it's lymph nodes, I don't know. If it's, I'm sure it's not on the vascular sheath, you know. So it's so anyway, or yeah, I just don't know what your situation is.

Speaker 1: 26:43

But are we back Instagram? Hey, from Canada? Are we back? You guys? It said we were disconnected because of a bad right. Are we disconnected? Oh my God, you guys, please. Oh, you're making me sad. You don't get it. You don't get it. Come on, you guys, please. Oh, you're making me sad, you don't get it. You don't get it. Come on, you guys, please. Somebody in there?

Speaker 1: 27:04

Anna said I just took a glance at the chat. Oh my God, what did you say? Anna, I'm a COVID long hauler. No, you're not. No, I promise you're not. You're a dynamic human being. You're a dynamic human being who's making 37 million new cells per second, who's engaging in 37 plus sextillion chemical reactions every second. Yeah, you are a focus of divine awareness.

Speaker 1: 27:36

First of all, covid, you said you were COVID. Am I not supposed to say that word? Is that one of those words. Anyway, you're a COVID long hauler, meaning that you bought the story of the COVID as being a real thing number one. And then the long hauler means that you bought the story that there is something called a long COVID.

Speaker 1: 27:55

So you bought a lot of the stories, the whole virus thing on a good day, assumptions, anyway, even if they were, were true, that's not who you are, that's not what you are. That has not become your identity. You, if you, if you, if that's who you think you are, then they don't let them win. Okay, remember who you are. Everyone remember who you are. Okay, and even if you don't have a name for it, good, because there is no name for who you are. Okay, you are the nameless, the center of the universe, the center of reality, the eye of God looking through you. Okay, this other stuff? Nah, okay, it happens, there's stuff happening and we can put names on it, but that's not it. Okay, just believe me. All right.

Speaker 1: 28:42

So the question you're asking there is will the antiparasitics help? Absolutely, antiparasitics are going to help everyone. The only people that are not going to help are people that have some sort of specific reaction to those medications that are negative Other than that. And so, uh-huh, okay, you guys, josh, I'm all over the place, sorry, I uh. Well, are you not? Is anybody not all over the places? Are you guys all in one place at one time? Anyway, I'm not. I can't be in one place at one time.

Speaker 1: 29:14

Iver healed as well as the best brand, and the oncologist told me to take it once daily on an empty stomach. You're an oncologist. Once a day on an empty stomach, you're an oncologist. It's me Not completely, but only 90% wrong. I'll talk about that in a second. Let me just I can't look at this. I'm going to because, remember, I'm all over the place. Sorry, I got to get out from all over the place. Let me get back to what's really important, anyway.

Speaker 1: 29:39

So what I would say is your husband's got to change. He's got to do all the things that we know we have to do Everything, from biological dentistry down, cleanse everything, all that we always talk about and then we use. We need to wake up the immune system with our various, you know, peptides and learning to turn off the mind, psychoneuroimmunology, and we're cleaning the bowels. All these things we have to do right, and then we can use heavy-duty nutraceuticals instead of pharmaceuticals as much as possible to eliminate CFCs. We can do that with high-dose vitamin C and ozone. There's a lot of ways to do this. And should he take ivermectin? Yes, with fenbendazole, yes, and niclosamide and probably nidazoxamide. Now, I don't know your husband, I can't say for sure what he should and shouldn't take, but I don't know his liver functions. I can't ever say that, but if I knew him and I knew his liver functions were okay, I would start him on something like that. Yeah, but yes, for sure.

Speaker 1: 30:46

And all right, let's go to the next one. This is Elaine. Elaine says I'm reading conflicting advice and would really love your input.

Speaker 1: 30:55

Could the cellular debris from membendazole, ivermectin-induced apoptosis, become an issue? I've read on Jane McClellan's group that CFCs utilize this as a source of energy. How would you suggest overcoming this? Is pectosol sufficient or do we really need to flush it out? Thanks again. Really need to flush it out? Thanks again.

Speaker 1: 31:25

Okay, all right, elaine, let's get into that answer, all right? Uh, first of all, in the in the question is a misunderstanding of the question. Your question tells me there's a misunderstanding of what the word apoptosis means. Apoptosis, I'm not sure, tomato apoptosis, if you're. Uh, some people call it aAMS. Anyway, what it is is programmed cellular recycling.

Speaker 1: 31:46

Okay, so the cell recycles itself. So instead of a cell just dying, which would I'm not supposed to use that word, gosh, I keep forgetting Instead of a cell just becoming a corpse, and then that's called necrosis. And then that's called necrosis, okay. So cellular, when cells become no longer viable. That can happen through a variety of mechanisms. One is called necrosis where it's just like, you know, like as if someone were, you know, hit by a car or something, and they just explode Okay, trying to use words that aren't going to trigger some artificial idiot. So that's called necrosis, where things are just there, that's that mess on the street when the cat got hit by the car. Then there is apoptosis, where it's according to biological imperatives, cells are recycled at a regular rate Recycled there's no debris, there's no. What's the other one? Cupertosis. So we're finding out that there's more and more ways in which the body recycles and eliminates cells. So, yeah, we're finding that out, we're calling it and giving it different names, but basically apoptosis. Apoptosis should not be causing any cellular disease, and that's very true.

Speaker 1: 32:59

So ivermectin, you know, it's an opportunity for us just to kind of review what ivermectin actually does, right. So it activates this. It's a glutamate. Glutamate, remember, glutamine, is a amino acid. Now it's a non-essential amino acid, so our body makes it, but also we get it in our food. It's a glutamate gated, in other words, there's a gate there for the chloride channel, sodium and chloride. So chloride is a halide, it's a type of chemical that binds to a transition in earth metals to become salts like sodium, chloride, potassium chloride, potassium, magnesium iodide. These are all different ways of making salt, anyway. So there's the ivermectin actually activates the glutamate-gated chloride channels, causing chloride ions to fly into the cell, all right, more than would normally happen.

Speaker 1: 33:58

So the nerve of these little parasites become hyperpolarized, right, they get and they die because they release this stuff called GABA You've heard of GABA, right, gamma amino butyric acid and this winds up destroying these nerve cells. And then, so now the muscles these guys do have muscles the parasites. They might look like wimps, but they're not vegans, remember, they're not vegans, so they're not wimps, right, right, anyway, so these little parasites get paralyzed because of the ivermectin blocking the calcium. Calcium goes in. Anyway, that's the mechanism. That's basically the mechanism, but it's interesting that it also does. They found that it's not only with the worms, the helminths, but with malaria, and then it's not a worm. And then there's the trypanosomiasis, that one, schistosomiasis, trichinosis these are worms and then leishmaniasis. These are like major, really horrible, horrible parasitic situations that ivermectin seems to work with. It also works with scabies. It's just, it's extremely versatile. But the other thing about it is that what's really amazing is that it deals with the CFC problem on so many levels. Right, it changes the tumor microenvironment, which is a big deal. Right, it changes the tumor microenvironment, which is a big deal, a big deal, because that's really where, remember, the tumor microenvironment modifies the immune system so it doesn't attack anymore, so it starts working for the tumor's growth rather than for your, for the benefit of eliminating the tumor. That's crazy. So the ivermectin actually helps reverse that, not completely, but helps. Well, you have other things to together make that work, right. And then, because what it allows is now the immune system to do its job.

Speaker 1: 35:47

Immunogenic cell what's that word? Cell birth Okay, right, the opposite of birth Okay. So the immunogenic cell it works as an epigenetic regulator. What does that mean? That means remember, we've spoken about this before when a cell loses its mitochondria, a sufficient number of mitochondria, and it has to start changing operating systems to become a productly fermenting cell. It turns on this gene, turns off that gene. It makes all these epigenetic modifications. So now that it can successfully ferment, may live on fermentation, which is a very inefficient way of getting energy. So those changes that it made so that it has a different genetic expression are called epigenetic changes.

Speaker 1: 36:33

Epi around, not genetic around, causing a change in genetic expression, not mutating. Because a mutation is done, you're done. You're not going to change a mutation, right? If you have Down syndrome, it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, you still have Down syndrome. So in these situations, you know, like the P53, which is the tumor suppressor gene, the guardian of the genome, when that's suppressed they say it's mutated. Well, it's not mutated if you can bring it back, if you can upregulate it. In other words, it was silenced the P21, which is another tumor suppressor. The PTEN, another tumor suppressor.

Speaker 1: 37:10

They can be turned back on by certain things such as I don't know something vegan-ish, you know those vegans? It's called broccoli and cauliflower. There ain't nothing you can get from a plant that you can't get from a good steak. You know what I'm talking about. There ain't nothing in the world that is as powerful and as strong and as more fit for humans than a steak. I get it. I know the steak is just a piece of muscle from a dead animal, but hey, it's got everything I need, all right.

Speaker 1: 37:42

So that was just a little commercial break from idiosity. Idiosity is a place where a lot of people live and fortunately I've never been, I've never even visited there. I can't get in the door, they won't let me in. I can't idioticize sufficiently to get in the door of idiosy, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 38:06

So now, what else does ivermectin do? It inhibits the AKTM-TOR pathway. Do you realize that Right? So it induces autophagy. What is autophagy? Autophagy, auto-self-eating, it eats itself. And, as I said, it activates the p21, which is a number, another tumor suppressor gene, and activates the pac-1 kinase. You might not know these terms and you don't need to. The other one is that it inhibits the wnt pathway. The wnt pathway you see all these acronyms the w? Wnt pathway allows metastasis. What kind of blocks is that? So it does all these things, but it doesn't cause necrosis. And by not causing necrosis there's no debris. If there's no debris, there's nothing to clean up. So I'm not sure what was being discussed on that Jane McClellan group or whatever it was.

Speaker 1: 39:02

But ivermectin is even important with cholangiocarcinoma. Cholangiocarcinoma is bile duct CFCs and a big here in Thailand, the largest number one. Not something that you want the Thailands to be proud about, but number one in the world of having cholangiocarcinoma because of an area called Isan where they eat this raw fish called bala deep and it's got this little flat worm in it called Opistocorcus and they hang out in bile ducts. They find their way up to the bile duct and they hang out there and they cause intense inflammation which eventually becomes CFCs. Ivermectin helps. Don't tell anybody. Don't tell them at Chulala, don't tell them at any of those places, right, and the truth remains that no one wants to know.

Speaker 1: 39:57

Christofferson it's called what's the name of that? To Beat the Devil. Did you ever hear that song To Beat the Devil by Christopherson? I love it, anyway.

Speaker 1: 40:08

So that's what ivermectin does. It does more. It causes cells to stop in their dividing thing, to get stuck at the S phase. I mean, it's just crazy, crazy, crazy. And so do the benzimidazoles mebendazole, fembendazole, right, and they don't really cause necrosis. They don't cause where you would have debris, cellular debris. They don't do that. Okay, and together they're incredible Together these two, the two the fembendazole, or the mebendazole and ivermectin. They completely disrupt the metabolism of the CFC. So it's not really can't eat very well, it can't function very well, it causes cell cycle arrest. In other words, it can't keep dividing, so it goes through apoptosis. The fenben and the meben, all those and the benzimidazoles, they block the microtubules so that doesn't allow any kind of movement either and they can't divide. And then of course, as I said, the ivermectin modulates the immune system. So when you got all those together they activate P53. They do so many things that it's crazy.

Speaker 1: 41:15

And now if you throw in niclosamide and then you, just for fun, you add in nitrozoxonide, which is Alinea, and you have got not only all the worms, all the protozoa. There's a couple, there may be a couple. Yeah, I think you got them all pretty much in terms of parasites. But in addition you're getting all the CFCs. I mean, you know, niclosamide alone is being considered a front line for ovarian CFCs. It's being used in osteosarcomas. Sarcomas are very difficult and the osteo comes from the bone, and then there's the liposarcomas. So these are being used for those front line. So I mean not even looking at parasites. Anyway, the point is that these are very, very important parts of anybody's regimen and they're not going to cause cellular debris, so keep that in mind. So I'm not sure what they're talking about with you. All right.

Speaker 1: 42:11

Next person is what is it, kimberly? How many drops of 2% iodine does an adult female put in a glass of liquid? I have been only using salt the last five years that doesn't have iodine in it. Does the body store iodine? Well, no, kimberly. Some interesting questions here. So, yeah, the body does not store iodine to any appreciable degree. It's being used by tissue. So that'll be in there.

Speaker 1: 42:46

But iodine comes in two forms iodide, which is like a salt, potassium iodide, and iodine, which is molecular, two iodide atoms together forming a molecule. They have different functions. They have different functions. And now the 2%. So that's the thing. Remember, the 2% is one kind. They've got 5%, 7%, 10%.

Speaker 1: 43:15

Iodine is what you want, right? Because the thing to understand is that you've got the iodide, like I said, which is the salt form, the halogen form, which is only used by the thyroid to make thyroid hormones, t4 and T3, which are essential to immune function, et cetera, and to energy metabolism. I'm not undermining it at all. But the other one, the iodine is where you have, which helps with the healthy metabolism of estrogens, right, so that they become healthy metabolites instead of detrimental metabolites. Number one. Number two directly kills CFCs and kill microorganisms. Yeah, I mean, and they're how healthy breasts function, healthy stomachs function. They're very important as part of the functioning of particular organs like thyroid breasts, stomach, pancreas, yeah, so it's very important. Anyway, there's two of them.

Speaker 1: 44:22

When we're talking about the 2%, here's the problem. In order to make the solution called Lugol's, since iodine, which is two iodine atoms put together to form I2, so that it's stable, is not as soluble in water as iodide, which forms a salt, right, because salts are. You put a salt in water and they dissolve. They're very dissolvable, okay, so, anyway, so 2% iodine. So, anyway, the majority is iodide, so that the iodine, because we really need a little bit of iodide and a lot of iodine molecular. However, that won't maintain its solution. The only way you can maintain the solution is to have more of the iodide, because it's water soluble, so you wind up with a solution that's opposite of what you want. So, therefore, if you have only 2%, that means that's very little of it. You need more, right, and so you know, the 2% is about per drop. You get about two point five grams, whereas the five percent you get six point two five grams, and in the twenty two percent you get twenty five to thirty milligrams. Ok, so two point five milligrams is two percent. So since you want about twenty five milligrams a day, you would have to take 10 drops. Not bad, you can put it in, or you can get the tablets, the Iodoral, because sometimes it's hard to find the Lugols, but the Iodoral I-O-D-O-R-A-L is the same formula, okay, so anyway, that's it.

Speaker 1: 45:57

Let's see the next question Thyroid CFCs. Guys, come on, you got you know. Are you going to continue to use the words? Are you going to continue to use those words that are going to prevent you from breathing? Are you going to continue to use the words that are going to cripple your immune system? Are you guys going to continue to use that? You're going to continue to use the word, even though I've told you you don't believe me. That's it. You don't believe. You think I'm. I just I don't know what you think, but it's not true. I actually mean it and I have a reason to mean it. So, anyway, thyroid CFCs. But you didn't use that word. You had to use an astrological sign in 1990. You had a total thyroidectomy.

Speaker 1: 46:42

At the time the doctor said he left a pair of thyroids, 25-year getting kidney stones and bone spurs. Now doctors say I have diffuse idiopathic skeletal hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hypersensitivity, hyp and high blood pressure. Starting the memory issue, tsh up and down. My norm is 0.2, yet highest is 27. Fatty liver pth unknown. That's the parathyroid.

Speaker 1: 47:30

Ask naturopath doctor for friend ben ivan. She said I ready to say F-U-U-S-A. Why would you say such a thing? F-u-u-s-a, dr. Fda. I got Vimectin, horse paste and Fenben. Bio Haven't started because MSDS Say no, not for human Toxic. I don't know if I can continue. My spirit is at all time low so it's safe to take biomectin together. I plan on milk, thistle clothes and castor oil. Your response Even when I find a USA doctor to give treatment for human-grade ivermectin, I will switch.

Speaker 1: 48:13

Steven, first of all, stop using their word. Okay, you don't have an astrological sign in your body? Okay, never did, never will. Okay, you don't have an astrological sign in your body? Okay, never did, never will. Okay, you've got a chronically permanent exhalation. You had chronically permanent exhalation period. Don't use their words with your lies, because the minute you do that, you're lying to yourself. You're buying them and you are them, so stop being them.

Speaker 1: 48:32

All right, they took your thyroid out. He says he left your parathyroid out. He says he left your parathyroid. So if he had gotten all your parathyroids and you haven't been augmenting that in any way you wouldn't be alive. So by now, now you've got these conditions of glaucoma, gut pain, acid reflux.

Speaker 1: 48:54

I don't know what you mean by symptoms of diabetes. You're low sugar, hyperglycemia, you know? I'm not sure what you're meaning by that. What? All the stuff that you're talking about here? You know fatty liver, sleep apnea. All this stuff is related to diet and if you're having sleep apnea, that can and most likely is related to your airway.

Speaker 1: 49:32

And so, as part of your evaluation of, take care of yourself, um, so that they can take a look at your airways and take a look at your um. You know whether or not you have cavitations, whether or not you have any other serious issues going on and I'm sorry for being so tired, I shouldn't be um anyway all your, your, your problems. I mean there's no way and and your memory issues, all this stuff, borderline hyper. It cannot be happening if you're eating healthy. It can't happen, just can't. It's not possible. So I'm not sure if you're new to this and all that because you can't have fatty liver. Because I mean, the implication, I think, is that they may have taken your parathyroid right and they're having all these problems right. Okay, I don't think they took them all. If they did take any it could have, but not all. So but anyway, it's more than that. What you're describing is way more than that, and I understand that your spirits are broken and I understand that as you're dealing with they're not really doctors. They, they, they're not. They got their little degree from a crackerjack.

Speaker 1: 50:43

So the msds um says that it's not the same. Well, horse paste, that, believe me, they, it's the same. Ivermectin is ivermectin is ivermectin is ivermectin, fembendazole is fembendazole is Ndazel, and it's only for horses. Oh yeah, talk to Joe Tippins about that, who's still alive. Okay, so it's not only for horses. Anyway, I don't know how they come up with this ridiculous stuff. I mean, I do. It's a dog dewormer. It's a horse dewormer. It's an antelope dewormer. It's a raccoon dewormer. It's a mountain lion dewormer, it's an elephant dewormer, but it's not fit for human.

Speaker 1: 51:21

What you're taking, if it's for veterinary use, it's the same thing you're going to get. It's just in a different package. It might be in a paste instead of a pill or something like that, but it's still the same thing, so don't worry about that. Now, it's hard to find a doctor in the US Very hard Anywhere. Actually. The US has actually more potentially great doctors than anywhere else that I've been. So, by the way, I am very close to being able to tell you where to get all these pills. I've been working with this group and we're pretty close to being able to say just go to this website and you'll be able to get all these pills anti-parasitic pills.

Speaker 1: 52:07

So anyway, stephen, you have got to clean up your life, okay, and don't talk about human-grade ivermectin. Okay, just remember you need ivermectin thimidazole, but you need a lot of other things, and it sounds like you've got all kinds of problems that really you know, because your TSH can't go from 0.2 to 27 without, first of all, if you don't have a thyroid. Anyway, there's way too much inconsistent information here. So, stephen, you've got to join the groups so you and I can have a conversation. I need to understand what's going on. This is way too much seemingly nonsensical stuff. So I'm sure it's real, but I'm missing a lot. So please do that. Okay.

Speaker 1: 52:52

Now, this is Shivani. Shivani, I wanted to know is it common to have side effects from taking antiparasite? I was following your protocol but had to stop taking Prasuquanto because I had debilitating side effects Flu, drowsy, racing heart, unwell in bed for most of the day. Wow, since you stopped, you feel much better. Well, it sounds like Prasuquanto might have been getting an organism that was. These are not typical symptoms of that medication at all, so it sounds like it was probably eliminating some organism from you. But since you stopped, you're feeling much better. But you have some of these side effects from the other meds. Well, I'm thinking that you're killing off some stuff that you need to.

Speaker 1: 53:38

Now remember, not everybody, in fact most people will not see evidence that they've eliminated some organisms from their body. You know, like they won't see worms in the stool, they won't see anything emerging from their body, like some people do. It just won't happen. So I'm serious, shivani. Some people do, it just won't happen. So I'm serious, shivani. Yeah, so you've got a lot of some organisms in you that are being.

Speaker 1: 54:07

So if you're saying you're still getting these same side effects, but much milder, from eliminating the Prasequanto. So the Prasequanto was getting was, I guess, more on target, or the combination of the Prasequanto with the other ones that you're taking. So, in any case, these are not, you know, racing heart rate, feeling drowsy, generally unwell, are not from the medication, it's from the consequence of eliminating these organisms. So what you need to do is figure out a way to keep that up without being debilitated. So, I guess, without using the prosecuanto. It sounds like you're still mild, you can live with it, right, so maybe that's the way you should do it for now. If you're I would say it sounds like if you're if you, if you can function with the rest of these by having eliminated the prosecuanto, if you can function, uh, then you're, you're, you're. So you know, I mean function so that your life is worth living. If you're not, if you're not, if you're not enjoying life, then no, then eliminate a couple more until you can get to the point where it's okay because you want to get. But but remember too, to get to eliminate some of these organisms, we have to go through certain things. So anyway, I'm not sure how to tell you. I wish I could work more closely with you. I wish you could join the parasite group so we could really talk about your situation Now. This is Tricia and she's saying hello, thank you.

Speaker 1: 55:33

One year ago I had a subarachnoid brain hemorrhage and the neurologist said it dissipated. Then I was told I had a spinal stenosis and need surgery. I stopped taking the prescriptions and the pain is brutal and seems to be moving to my piriformis. I'm on limited income and trying to eat right. They will not give me a referral to an infectious doctor and say I can have the stool or blood sample. That's not going to show nesting parasites. Wait a minute, let me see if I can read this again. I'm assuming. Then I was told that I had a spinal stenosis and I need spine surgery. I stopped taking the prescriptions and the pain is brutal and seems to be moving to my piriformis. So that's a very little muscle inside your like. It's like your pelvis bone connecting to your leg, your femur, and that can be painful if you get spasm of the piriformis. I'm gonna eliminate them and try to eat right. They will not give me a referral to an infectious doctor and say I can give a stool or blood sample that's not going to show nesting parasites, whose objective is to avoid detection.

Speaker 1: 56:51

I'm a bit frightened for many reasons, and this is why my soul is telling me, is the cause? They try to say I have psychosis? I mean. So my heart goes out to every one of you for having to deal with the system. They're not doctors, they're just people that are there to push the algorithms, oh my gosh. Well, one thing to keep in mind, tricia, is that most of the time when people have parasites, it's undetectable. We're not going to find them in the stool. We're not going to find evidence of them in the stool. We're not going to find. You know, we very rarely find blood tests. So I don't and we're not even sure. Anyway, the point is, don't worry about the testing. We all have parasites, period. That's a given all right.

Speaker 1: 57:44

Now, about your spinal stenosis. I don't know that's a serious situation If you have spinal stenosis. I don't know where on your spine, but you have to understand that anything below, wherever they're saying there's stenosis, could cease to be viable and that could be a major problem. So if you have a spinal stenosis somewhere, that's got to be taken care of surgically or allopathically. This is like one of the situations where you've got to rely on the allopath. So I'm not sure you know.

Speaker 1: 58:19

When you said hello and thank you, for one year ago I had subarachnoid brain hemorrhage and the neurologist said it dissipated. Well, they will hammer. You know, if you had a subarachnoid hemorrhage and left alone, eventually the body dissolves. You know clots. So I'm a little confused there. If you have a spinal stenosis, you've got to take care of that. You can't know. It's a separate spinal stenosis. You've got to take care of that. It's a separate issue whether or not you've got some parasites and you do, everyone does. So to take some antiparasitics would make absolute sense, no matter what. However, don't fool around with spinal stenosis. Take care of that, okay. And if I could have a little more interaction with you, you can join the Health and Healing Group. This is Wendy.

Speaker 1: 59:01

I had internal shingles about 15 years ago and have been dealing with nerve pain a couple times a year on the left leg. Can you suggest anything to eradicate this virus or at least handle the nerve pain when it comes up? Internal shingles? I don't know what that means. Am I missing something? Let me see, let me look, let me ask Maybe this came up as a phrase Internal?

Speaker 1: 59:34

My gosh, this is another boogeyman. Yeah, because we all know that the varicella zoster virus is supposed to be that which is associated with shingles. Right, it's chickenpox revisited. But so what they're saying is that this is where this virus, this varicella zoster virus, is activated, in the part of the body you can't see. And I guess they know, because they must do some blood tests. They see your eye. Either you've got a pair of eye, igg or something. Anyway, I'm not sure, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I hadn't heard that before. That's a terrible thing. I mean, the pain from zoster, from shingles, is excruciating. It's kind of like if anyone's ever had herpes.

Speaker 1: 1:00:21

Remember, these are all part of the same family of viruses. Now, I'm not saying the viruses even exist. They might be and are most likely what are called exosomes and are there for a different reason. But for the purposes of this discussion, there's a family of viruses called the herpes family, which includes the herpes type 1 and 2, right, which we used to think of as oral and genital. However, the type 1 was oral. The type 2 was genital. However, due to normal sexual practice, 2 is where 1 is and 1 is where 2 is. So you can't really identify one and two as being anatomically located. So there's two, the herpes simplex type one and two, and then there's the epstein-barr virus, there's the cytomegalovirus, um, there's the uh varicella virus I'm just talking about. These are all part of the herpes families. And then there's human herpes hs, uh, hhs, hhv, five and six, because they ran out of uh, other kinds of names, so now they're just numbering it h6, hhv5. Yeah so, but anyway these are viruses like that kind of live on nerves, in nerves and on nerves and they go to sleep and wake up. Go to sleep and wake up. It's not sleep and wake up, it's not they do. We're just using those terms but in any case.

Speaker 1: 1:01:43

So if you've ever seen shingles, shingles is usually on one dermatome, in other words, it's on one nerve. It comes off your central nervous system. You have all these peripheral nerves, so one of those nerves dermatome gets. Has this situation happen with it, whatever it is. So you get little on the skin, these blisters, just in one area. So if it's on the face, it's here. If I'm on the back, it's on. It can be anywhere in, usually one side it doesn't cross the midline, whereas if you recall chicken box, if had chickenpox, you had these little blisters all over the body, both sides, or if you've had herpes on the lip or genitals, and so these are very painful lesions, they get itchy and then if you scratch them they hurt tremendously.

Speaker 1: 1:02:34

So, anyway, they're all part of the herpes family. So when they come back, wherever they are, they're extremely painful. They can be itchy and painful. But I'm trying to imagine, when they're saying they're internal, that means they're cat BC, so they're on what a peripheral nerve that doesn't in the periphery? I don't know. I got to look that up, I've got to understand that better, because it's just not making sense to me. It's not making sense to me, but anyway. So your problem is this You're wondering what to do with it. Well, handle the nerve pain when it comes, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:03:08

So if you don't know what you know usually these kinds of viruses, for the sake of these discussions, we're going to assume that the viruses exist, the herpes or whatever they are, different kinds of the herpes family. The idea is that they're dormant, they live on the nerves and they come back at certain times, meaning they wake up at certain times. And the reason they wake up, at certain times they weren't sleeping. The reason that they're activated is because the immune system is, in one way or another, lessened damage. So you would work on that, you'd work on the psychology of that and whatever else not getting enough sleep, overexerting yourself, all the kinds of things that might decrease your immunity, bad, unhealthy foods, et cetera, unhealthy relationships, whatever it is that exposure, the EMF, all these things that could be contributing to your immune suppression you want to deal with. But on the other hand, if it's there and it's terrible, you can take the drug that they use is called acyclovir, in like 800 milligrams, five times Thursday, six times every few hours, just about, and it works. It works Especially if your pain is severe and debilitating. I would definitely do that. Okay, and I don't know of anything else that works that effectively and that rapidly. Because if people are going to get an outbreak of herpes and they start to get their first blister, you can take many that first day and it won't come out, it'll block it. Or people that have shingles, you can get rid of it quickly with that. So that's what I would recommend in that situation. Other than that, you need to make sure you want to make sure it doesn't come out by changing your lifestyle, cleansing, learning to deal with your, turning your mind off, eating right, going to bed early movement, all the things that we talk about for health, restoring health and eliminating any immune suppressing lifestyles.

Speaker 1: 1:05:16

So now here's breast CFCs, and this is Annette and Annette's saying I'm new to watching you. I have hormone receptor positive breast CFCs, metastasis of the bones and now possibly my liver as well. I'm 5'1.5", weigh, 180. I've done conventional treatment so far, but I feel like I'm getting worse, not better. My bones are weak and fracturing and the lack of hormones by blockers and my blood work is terrible. Wow, you're at your wit's end. I get it. Okay, listen, annette. Drlodycom. Drlodycom.

Speaker 1: 1:05:57

Join the CFC group so we can talk's so much and I'll give you the. I'll give you the protocols and all that stuff. You need a protocol. You need to jump off of their train there. You're right that they're. You're on a. You're on the train to a systole train, where the heart's not beating anymore and the lungs aren't breathing anymore. What do you call that condition? That's where that train goes. All right, and just telling you, you're on that train and you know it, and I'm so happy you know it because now you can jump off it. You are feeling worse and not getting better.

Speaker 1: 1:06:32

Exactly, you don't take a sick person and say you know what You're sick, I'm going to poison you, that'll help. Person and say you know what You're sick, I'm going to poison you, that'll help, that'll help. In what universe do you mean that'll help? Dude or dudette? What universe is poisoning me when I'm sick going to make me feel better? In fact, how is poisoning me when I'm healthy going to do of any good, right? So if I give poison to a healthy person and they get sick, how can I make the incredibly logical decision that giving that same poison to a sick person will make them feel better? That's insane, beyond insane. Okay, so I'm so glad you woke up in that.

Speaker 1: 1:07:08

So there's a lot that we need to do. We need to figure out. And if it's in your bones, okay, normally, yeah, naturally. So you are HRPR positive. Her heard you negative. That's pretty common. I want you to live and thrive. I want that.

Speaker 1: 1:07:22

So you, drlodicom, drlodicom go there, join the cfc group. Let's get started on them. Which you'll get is access to this package, first of all, of what to do immediately, because, uh, and you're new to this so you haven't heard these, but you can go back and watch a lot of these because they're all archived on instagram and facebook and stuff but we talk about always. You've got to, you've got to get rid of the reason why it's all happening and you've got to then wake up the immune system and you've got to target whatever's there and uh, without harming the healthy cells. And that's what we do those three things in every respect, because we understand that human beings are not like automobiles, they're not just physical, they don't just have physical properties Like you, bring your car in doc here, fix it. I'll be back in a couple hours and it's not like that. Okay, there's a driver in that car. That's you, all right, and that driver has feelings and that driver has thoughts, and that driver it's not just an automobile, all right. So, anyway, good, annette, let's do it. We've got to clean you out and get you on the right path and you'll be fine. You just got to do that.

Speaker 1: 1:08:33

So you watch the cleansing parasites. Our 10-year-old son was tested for many things and found to be at the high level of parasites. Wait a minute, let me see that. It says. Can you also? Our doctor recommended us to use GI microbe X oil and revive. Okay, well, micro X oil of a. Here we go and revive.

Speaker 1: 1:09:01

Okay, well, when you say you've got parasites, when you say what did they find? Did they find? Wait a minute, where is that? Oh, come on God, did they find worms? Did they find? You know, did they find ectoparasites? You know, like stuff on the outside? I mean, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1: 1:09:29

That's why it's so hard for these, for us not to have. What do you call it for us not to have interactions? Because I can't just hear stuff. So I have too many. I have too many questions, you know. I wish I knew what you were talking about.

Speaker 1: 1:09:46

So if you, if your 10 year old, has worms now, how would? How would your 10 year old get this? If you don't Right, because Unless was your 10 year old like like away for the summer? Where are we March? No, no, so it's not. Anyway, I don't know the timing on all this, I don't know when all this happened, but I'm assuming that if your 10-year-old wasn't away from you, it would be very unusual circumstances for your 10-year-old to get full of parasites and you and your husband not, or perhaps other siblings? I don't know. You know parasites and you and your husband not. Or perhaps other siblings? I don't know, you know, I don't know. You know what they usually.

Speaker 1: 1:10:25

You know, for ivermectin is usually 0.2 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. Right, and remember, ivermectin is used for not only humans, but it's used for even cats and dogs, and you know all different body sizes. So, um, I mean, and you know, like the cats, I forget it's a real small dose, but you know. So it's really safe. So you're getting the proper dosage is right, but it's usually 0.2 milligrams per kilogram.

Speaker 1: 1:10:48

But I don't know what kinds of parasites your son has and why would he have them? And you don't? That's really odd, or do you think? Have you? You been tested? I don't know. Wow, you've got to find out. You've got to give me more information, can you? Are you listening? Maybe you can send the question here.

Speaker 1: 1:11:10

You guys have got a whole world going on. You all need to join these chat groups because you've all got information you're giving each other. I don't know if it's all correct or not. I can't say that. I'd have to read it over.

Speaker 1: 1:11:24

What I find, though, in most cases, is that a lot of people don't study subjects thoroughly. They get a small part of information about something and they become champions of that. And really you all have to be careful and I'm not talking to anybody specifically, I'm just saying you all have to be careful that when you're, especially in a forum like this, when you're talking, when you're putting out information, there's a sense that well, it's got to be real, it's got to be true because it's on this particular forum. But I don't really know if you're all saying what's happening. I don't know what you're all saying to each other. You're real busy doing it and I'm wondering then, if you're too real busy doing this, are you part of this whole? Are we also? Are you listening anyway, or am I just too spaced out to keep anybody's attention? Yo, replying to emin ama, dr pauline greg, what is going on here? I've had eye worms been taking a minute. Listen to you guys. You guys to like, why don't you join the parasite group? I can see everybody's got a lot of information and a lot of stuff and we all have our own perspectives and let's bring them together and let's make them really useful for each other. Let's make sure we're really helping each other. We're really helping each other, and you know we don't always have all the information.

Speaker 1: 1:12:54

What I like to do, I'm obsessed with it, I'm stuck with it. I never. If I read something or hear something, I go okay, but what about this? I have to understand every possible situation, every possible variable, and unless I understand it thoroughly, I can't even feel comfortable about discussing it. So that's my plague. I'm plagued with that. But a lot of people aren't, and I can see that, and I can see that you're putting out partial stuff and you haven't read it all. And so, for that reason, this would be great if we could have this on a discussion. That's one of the ideas of the groups is for us to have a forum for discussion, right, and then when we have our weekly Zoom conferences, with all of us on it, we can interact, we can share this information. Okay, that's what we should do.

Speaker 1: 1:13:48

Uh, can liver flukes travel the brain? Could I actually have them? Trideminal neuralgia, occipital neuralgia? But now, after researching, reading parasites, I'm wondering now, well, yeah, I'm, I don't think, uh, that long here. I don't think that necessarily, joe, uh, zoe, the parasites going there, you've got to keep in mind that the mouth you've got, the facial nerve you've got the trigeminal, you've got these other nerves, you've got the cranial nerve number 11, but the tongue back there, you've got a lot of these cranial nerves that are in the cranium and they are going to be directly affected by your dental health, by your oral health, and so what's going on? And remember, in our mouth live protozoa as well as anaerobic, aerobic, gram-negative, gram-positive bacteria and funguses and archaea, and then whatever viruses are. So all these things are in there. So, and then whatever viruses are, so all these things are in there in a healthy proportion, it's our natural biome. But in an unhealthy proportion, because of the kinds we eat, it's a problem. So I would say, if you're thinking trigeminal, if you're thinking any kind of cranial nerve problem, before I would jump to an idea of parasites in the way we normally think about parasites, I would start to think of our oral health and our oral what's going on in there, because they're all connected All right. So remember, the upper jaw, lower jaw, tongue, all go through trigeminal, right, so, and therefore they can carry information from that nerve up to the brain as well. So, yeah, that's what I would think of if you're having those kinds of problems with you know.

Speaker 1: 1:15:33

Okay, jeremy Reed, follow Dr Jasmine. A Page dedicated to alternative methods of parasite cleanse, of cancer protocols and also a safe place to source all the alternative treatments. All right, you guys, you have a lot of parasite stuff on here, all right, I can't follow If I read. You guys, I'm treatments. All right, you guys, you have a lot of parasite stuff on here, all right, I can't follow If I read. You guys, I'm gone, all right. Hey, you guys are busy. I don't even know if you know if I need to be on here. Should I just click off and let you guys finish your talks? You guys are busy.

Speaker 1: 1:16:03

How do you join the Paracycle drlodycom?

Speaker 1: 1:16:04

That paracycledrlodycom? That's the website, and then you'll see there's three groups there. Join the parasite group. You guys are busy. That's how I feel with it attacking me. Binders are a must.

Speaker 1: 1:16:18

Drlodycom, you can join the parasite group. Well, okay, man, you guys got me going. I would go crazy if I were in your case. Okay, I would go crazy because it's very difficult for you guys. You don't have enough information. Here we go. Is that us? Where is that? Where is that? January 14th? Wait, come on. Where is the questions no 23rd? That's there, okay, so we go Okay, okay, so where are we? All right, we did that one. Now we're on a hello, thank you. We're on internal shingles. We did Okay and we talked to you.

Speaker 1: 1:16:56

Now, annette, you're going to come to the CFC group, drlodycom, come to the CFC group, cause you very, very important right away. Okay, yeah, yeah. And then the doses joyce, regarding the ivermectin, as I said, uh, and the fembendazole and other stuff, actually all of these things. If you join the parasite group, we'll give you all that information. But everyone, remember it's really, if you go online and ask for the, you know, go to it doesn't have to be, uh, the aka Google, you don't have to CIA it, you can use other search engines. Just ask for the dosage of whatever ivermectin, benzazole, mycosamide, per weight and safety in children. Say that and it'll tell you, yes, it's safe in children and it's used per kilogram, like that. You can find that out. But join the group so we can get into more discussions.

Speaker 1: 1:17:55

Now this is Lisa, which says I'm currently healing breast CFCs plant-based, I exercise, grounding, ivermectin, fenben, juicing, healing my trauma, biological, then vitamin C. My question is are all bets off If I decide not to do hormone replacement, is it impossible to heal, or do I start taking HRT now or after no CFC is detected? If I do decide to take Lisa, it's a very good question and this applies for many people too. So the question is do I take um? By the way, I'm going to be talking about with Dr Jen Simmons, the former breast surgeon, who's now a integrative oncologist, like like me, about this specific issue and more in this year's upcoming I think it's next week or something the week after. Anyway, the question is should I block the hormone, since I have hormone-positive breast CFCs? Hormone-positive breast CFCs? So what does that really mean, is our question.

Speaker 1: 1:19:07

And when we ask that question, we find out that we're talking about the fact that the cells and CFCs in the tumor have a lot of estrogen receptor alpha, which is the one, that which is the receptor that, when stimulated, makes tumors grow. And we know that the receptor is heavily stimulated by both estrone and estradiol. We know that there are two estrogen receptors, alpha and beta. So we know that the estrone and estradiol. They're called agonists. They're strong agonists for the alpha, meaning they really stimulate it, and they're mild agonists for the beta, meaning they mildly stimulate it. Now, beta shrinks tumors, but the net effect in that situation is growth and then the receptor beta is often downregulated in these tumors. However, when it's stimulated, it causes tumors to shrink.

Speaker 1: 1:20:04

Now the third estrogen that we make, other than estrone and estradiol, is called estriol, and estriol stimulates the beta heavily and a little bit the alpha and that effect is shrink. We also know that soy does the same thing as the estriol and flax seeds and other things. So that's all very important information. So now what we want to do is put ourselves in a situation where we've got all the heavy agonists on the beta receptor, with the net effect of beta shrinking and a little bit on the alpha. Because what I like about the estriol of having a little bit on the alpha and a lot on the beta is that the net effect is beta, but sitting on the alpha it actually blocks it, as tamoxifen would. It's blocking it because it's already sitting there and nothing else can get on it. So you understand how that's very cool. So we want to maximize that. We maximize that with phytoestrogens from soy. We maximize which is miso, tofu, natto, tempeh, edamame, all those things. Flax seeds Okay, make flax seed smoothies. Green tea Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:21:17

And if you're working now you want to balance. Do you want to balance hormones? Yes, you want to come back to a healthy, balanced 35-year-old, because that's about where women are probably maximally healthy. Their hormones are no longer too high and they're not declining yet, so they're in a good condition, in a good position. And a healthy woman is a woman who cycles right, cycles. That's a healthy woman. So the closer we can mimic that condition, the better off, the more likely that woman is to be balanced right. So by blocking anything, we are causing more of an imbalance which the body is going to have to adapt to. The body adapts to imbalances if there's, if it's balanced, there's no adaptation required. So we don't want to throw it more off balance. Okay, we don't want to do that. We want to restore balance.

Speaker 1: 1:22:14

So the way I would work with you is restore the balance and I would use biologically identical hormones, plant-based, and mimic it so that maybe days one through 26 of the cycle and if you're postmenopausal, either due to age or due to surgery or drugs or whatever, then we just pick any day arbitrarily as being day one, and it's always best to just pick the first of the month just because it's easy to remember. But anyway, day one is, if you're menstruating is the first day of your period. Day one is if you're menstruating is the first day of your period anyway. So the way we would do this is the estrogen, which would most likely be estriol purely, which is the beta agonist, days 1 through 26 and the days 12 through 26 would be progesterone and that would closely mimic as the cycle. I mean you could even do mimic more, make you could have more and more estrogen throughout the first cycle and then, but this is fine, and then you have four days off of both at the end and then you, okay, that's very good, and that's what I would do. And then I and then we would measure after about six weeks of it. We would measure your urinary metabolites to make sure that not only are the parent hormones okay still are they okay, do we need to adjust those but are the metabolites okay?

Speaker 1: 1:23:39

Because a lot of the effect of a hormone is not just on the parent hormone that's produced, but it's the effect of the metabolites, the downstream metabolites of these hormones. So we've got to know that. Has it become? Is it a methoxy? Estradiol? Has it become hydroxyl? Is it a 4-hydroxy? So what has happened? Because some are very healthy and some have the negative effects, all right. So it requires a lot of you know, it just requires somebody who's had experience doing this. So, anyway, join our CFC group, drlodycom Health and healing parasites and CFC group. All right, you guys, it is after nine and for you folks, I know it's late on the East Coast, not too late yet in the West Coast, but anyway, I know I's late on the East Coast, not too late yet in the West Coast, but anyway, great, I know I didn't get to them all. Oh, my gosh, you got to join the groups. Sawadee kap. Okay, see you next week. Bye-bye, where is this? This is it? Oh, you guys, aloha, sawadee kap.