Episode 154 - 7.7.25 Parasite Protocols and CFC Healing

Dive deep into the controversial connection between parasites and chronically fermenting cells (CFCs) with Dr. Thomas Lodi as he challenges conventional understanding of disease. In this eye-opening discussion, Dr. Lodi explains why we should abandon fear-inducing terminology like "cancer" in favor of focusing on the actual metabolic process occurring within cells.

The conversation upends traditional medical teaching by revealing that there aren't different "types" of cancer—only different locations where the same metabolic dysfunction manifests. This paradigm-shifting perspective opens new avenues for treatment that conventional medicine often overlooks.

Dr. Lodi presents compelling evidence showing how parasites—which likely affect nearly 100% of the population—can directly cause or support CFCs by dismantling immune responses. He outlines a comprehensive treatment approach involving multiple anti-parasitic medications, explaining that these same mechanisms also target the metabolic pathways CFCs depend on for survival.

Beyond parasite protocols, Dr. Lodi emphasizes the critical importance of the pineal gland, which produces melatonin, epithalin, and dimethyltryptamine—compounds essential for immune function, sleep regulation, and even transcendental experiences. He explains how environmental toxins like fluoride calcify this vital gland, potentially explaining why blind people (who produce more melatonin) have significantly lower cancer rates.

The discussion extends to practical approaches for restoring physiological balance, including lymphatic therapy techniques, proper sleep hygiene, and addressing dental health through biological dentistry. Throughout, Dr. Lodi reinforces that there is never a single cause for any health condition—multiple variables always contribute, requiring a comprehensive approach to h

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Dr. Lodi's Health Groups
• 5:30 Understanding CFCs and Cancer Terminology
• 10:24 Parasite Medications for Melanoma
• 18:25 Parasites and Their Connection to CFCs
• 30:06 Sleep Issues, Melatonin and Pineal Health
• 47:25 Thrombocytosis and Blood Cell Disorders
• 58:05 Methylene Blue Benefits and Usage
• 1:11:15 Constipation, Bloating, and Gut Health
• 1:14:55 Lymphatic System Support Techniques

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:47

So, anyway, as I was saying well, you didn't hear me, but basically I just want to remind everyone we have three groups, and the reason we have three groups is a couple of reasons. Number one is that we can interact directly. You know, on these Sunday Night Lives we cannot do that. I have to answer the questions that were sent in. But on the weekly Zoom meetings we have, if you join the groups, we interact. You ask a question spontaneously it doesn't have to be sent in spontaneously and then I can ask you a little more detail about it. We can get into it further. So it's much more. It's like a consultation, and that's another reason is I don't do consultations. So this is, in fact, if you belong to the CFC group, is I don't do consultation. So this is, in fact, if you belong to the CFC group twice a week, every Monday and Wednesday evening, we'll be able to have this actually a better situation than this, because we answer questions that come up spontaneously and I do a lot of teaching on that as well. And, as you know, we've got Darren and Vanessa. We've got Donna with her teaching a raw way to life, a lady who's been raw herself for 36 years. We've got Kathy's Corner who helps you straighten out your wow, your experience from having this situation, and that's it. We still have some more things coming up, but that's actually pretty busy because that's almost three or four nights a week that you know you're involved in things. So it's the parasite group where we focus on parasites, and the health and healing is where we focus on everything and anything that's necessary to heal Right, which is, you know, from moving around to healthy relationships, to fasting, eating healthy food, all that sort of stuff. So please, those of you who are asking me questions, understand that I cannot Thank you. Cheryl, understand that I cannot really get into the questions that you're asking now. I have to answer the questions that were sent in, otherwise it's not fair to them. So by joining the group, we can have these interactions weekly, all right, and we're on Instagram, facebook, youtube, linkedin, rumble, and that's at Dr Thomas Lodi, whereas X and TikTok are at Dr Thomas Lodi, md, and that's D our Thomas Lodi, as you probably know. Okay, first question, adrian.

Speaker 1: 3:11

My wife has recently been diagnosed with melanoma. I've got a money house, excuse me. My wife has recently been diagnosed with melanoma. She's been using fenbendazole for about two months. She has noticed that the long cylindrical-shaped tumor on the other side of her right arm has reduced in size significantly, about 20%. The other tumor, located on the outer surface of her right arm and just above the elbow, while considerably smaller than the other, has not changed in size. It is suspected that the smaller tumor may be the primary melanoma Question.

Speaker 1: 3:48

We live in Australia where it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get hold of ivermectin. How important is it to use ivermectin with fenben? Second question are there any successes with just using fenben on its own? Well, specifically for melanoma, I'm not sure I haven't seen anything like that, but we do know that it alone specifically has worked for Joe Tippins who had small cell lung cancer. All right, we're not paused anymore, and there's been many other anecdotal reports of people using fenben and having similar results with different tumors.

Speaker 1: 4:30

But this brings up a broader understanding, a broader question that is overlooked and that is we were taught and we continue to be taught that there are different types of right CFCs for those of you it's your first day is the real physiological process that's going on in the situation that we call cancer. We don't use the word cancer because it's full of fear and it conveys no information and it doesn't help us come up with a plan for resolution. So there's no need and there's no. Not only is there no use in using it, but it's harmful because it causes extreme fear and that directly suppresses your immune systems. It's just not worth it. It's just not a term that makes any sense to use.

Speaker 1: 5:16

Okay, so we use CFCs, chronically fermenting cells. So we're told that there are different types and there's not. Because, remember, in order for something to be a CFC, a chronically fermenting cell, which is known as cancer, it has to have only one metabolic process going on, and that is, it has to have what's called aerobic glycolysis, also called the Warburg effect. All right, that defines CFCs. So, whether it starts in the ovary or the skin, or the melanocytes, or the basal cells, or the squamous cells, or in the retina or in the pancreas, it doesn't matter where it starts, other than the location. Because of the location and the function of that organ, the process is different. That's the only difference, right?

Speaker 1: 6:07

Other than that, fundamentally, if it's not engaging in this metabolic process called the Warburg effect, which is aerobic glycolysis, which means fermentation, now, cells usually do not ferment unless they lose their oxygen or they are anaerobic. But, for example, when you run up the street, you run to whatever. Your maximum is that, whether you're a runner or not, you run to your mat, your maximum, and then your legs start hurting. The reason they're hurting is because you've exceeded your aerobic capacity of getting the glucose and oxygen into the mitochondria. You've exceeded that process and now, in order to stay alive, in order for your cells to function, they revert to the default method of glycolysis, also known as fermentation. All right, so if a cell has exceeded that by heavy use or there's a deprivation somehow in the delivery of oxygen or anything like that, then the cell will ferment. However, if there's oxygen around, it will go back to what's called the normal respiration, called oxidative phosphorylation in the mitochondria. That's what happens, right. So you run up the street, your legs are hurting, you go because of lactic acid production. You go, breathe out your carbon dioxide. That balances out your metabolism again, and now you go back to using your mitochondria. So your legs aren't hurting anymore and you can walk, and all that All right. So that's. But in CFCs, about 60% or so of the mitochondria have been rendered dysfunctional and because of that reason, it cannot revert back to oxidative phosphorylation under any conditions, and so it's learned how to do it. Whether it's in the presence of oxygen or not, it's not going to go through oxidative phosphorylation, it's going to ferment. These are chronically fermenting cells, all right, just wanted to remind you that.

Speaker 1: 8:06

So we're talking here to Adrian about his wife with melanoma. That's what's happening, and in melanoma it happens in these particular cells that are part of our dermis and our skin, called melanocytes, and the reason it has a worse reputation than basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma, which are other skin CFCs, is because of its location right. And with melanoma it's very strange in that it can actually start anywhere. It can start on your skin, where you can see it, but it can also start in places you can't see, like the inside of your rectum. It can start in your retina, which is the inside of your eye, like the inside of your rectum. It can start in your retina, which is the inside of your eye. It can start in places that you just you would never know. So you know so because of that it often, by the time it gets detected, even if it's in the skin, by the time it gets detected, it's already gotten into blood vessels and lymphatics and it's spread all around, and that's the main difference between those two, between that and the other two main types of skin CFCs. So that's an.

Speaker 1: 9:23

So your question about fen-ben is you have to understand that for Joe Tippins, it worked exclusively. We did a couple of other things vitamins, things, vitamins but that was pretty much it, and it's kept in that way for what? Since 2017? How long is that? So we know it works individually in all sorts of CFC locations. Right, we're going to now change the word types to locations. Okay, because that's what it is. Period, and there we go. Instagram, all right, okay, cool so, but I'm sure if I looked around, I would find that there have been people with melanoma that have done that.

Speaker 1: 10:08

However, I would not rely on just one right, and so your question here was how important is ivermectin? Well, ivermectin is probably the most well-studied, and the reason it's studied is because it's a drug that had won the 2015 Nobel Prize, so it got a lot of attention and it was legitimate for research financing and it's gotten finan. It's and it's been found in every cell line to work. So, yeah, if you can get ivermectin, I definitely get it, and even you do. You the you adrian have to. You know, have someone help your wife for a while and just go outside of the country and get it. Or if you could have someone get it, bring, bring it to you. It would be very nice. Hopefully it's coming off of whatever that terrible list is that Fauci made up a couple of years ago Because you can get it.

Speaker 1: 11:00

It's readily available in Indian pharmacies and other pharmacies readily available. It's used all over the world by people with onchoceriosis, which is river blindness, so it's well known. So there is a way to get it. Try the Indian pharmacies. If you join our groups, the CFC group, we have listings of all different, because I can't remember them all, but there's all sorts of places we have found that will send different parasite or these are parasite medications. In addition to that, I'm in the last final stages of developing a relationship that will send different parasite or these are parasite medications. In addition to that, I'm in the last final stages of developing a relationship with this pharmacy that will be able to send it to everyone. So that's fantastic. We're really close with that.

Speaker 1: 11:43

But you don't so for two reasons. One, for the parasites, and we have to assume we all have parasites. It's just we all have parasites. Imagine if the CDC says what and when. They're just looking at Americans. So an American is supposed to be one of the first world countries that's protected from these sorts of exotic third world conditions. Well, that's no longer the case worldwide at all, in any country. But so the CDC is saying that 80% of people are probably have parasites of some sort, which means those those would be, that would be as a result of their testing and the information they have compiled on epidemiological conditions of where it's occurring and what areas and what circumstances, et cetera. So they put all that together and they're saying 80%. So if they're saying 80% is something that's almost impossible to diagnose, in other words to figure out what it is, it's got to be closer to 100%. And it is when you understand the whole idea of parasitology and all that and what the definition is. So anyway, we all have them. Just assume that.

Speaker 1: 12:53

And especially with the food you're eating, it doesn't matter. Remember, even if you're a vegan, the roundworms which are part of the. You know there's different ones flatworms, roundworms, but flukes. But the roundworms spend half of their life cycle in the soil right, whereas the life cycle of the soil right, whereas other their, their. The life cycle of other parasites are different. You know they have to go through like a snail and then a fish and then a human. So anyway, there's various life cycles, but the roundworms actually have to go through the soil. That's part of their, their, their life cycle, which means so if you're a vegan and you're only eating plants, you're still at risk of having them involved, you know, getting exposed to them. The problem with them is that we now know that they can directly cause CFCs and then from other indirect ways they can actually support CFCs tremendously. By shutting off or dismantling the immune response for themselves to protect themselves, they also wind up protecting CFCs.

Speaker 1: 13:57

So what you want to do is to cover all bases. You want to get at least three of those kinds, like ivermectin, if you can, fenbendazole or albendazole, any of the benzimidazoles Membendazole would be the choice. Actually, it's hard to say Membendazole by the studies, however. They haven't studied. Fenbendazole would be the choice. It's hard to say Fendazole by the studies, however, they haven't studied Fendazole in humans. They've studied it in animals and that's why they say there's no research in humans, because they haven't studied it. Of course there's not, but Joe Tippins throws all of that makes all of that irrelevant, right, because he is a human and it works.

Speaker 1: 14:37

And then the third one. What I would suggest is called niclosamide, n-i-c-l-o-s-a-m-i-d-e, and you can get that from niclosamcom. So you want at least two or three. Two or three would be better. And then you want to get an antiprotozoal, such as nitrous oxonide, which is also a linea, or tinnitazole, but antiprotozoal because there's worms and there's protozoa, which are single-celled organisms. Now that's for the, and then an antifungal. And that's for the parasitic approach, and there's also prosaic quantal. There are other ones, I'm not mentioning them all parasitic approach, and there's also prosaic quanta. There are other ones. I'm not mentioning them all, but keep in mind that the mechanism by which it shuts down these parasites, those mechanisms, are also what keep CFCs going. They're the mechanisms that CFCs require to be alive, to work, so it shuts them down too.

Speaker 1: 15:27

It's pretty coincidental. It makes one think what are we talking about here? Are we talking about one condition that has different manifestations? And the answer's never really been fully elucidated, because why there's no research specifically into that area? All right.

Speaker 1: 15:43

However, we do have a lot of amazing evidence, such as Royal Raymond Rife, who found two little microorganisms in the nanosize. Who found two little microorganisms in the nanosize and he would find their frequency, send it the exact same frequency and kill them. Because, as you know, with frequencies they're additive, so if you send in one, that's the same as the other, the wave is much bigger. And that's what happens when a woman singing opera breaks a glass. Woman singing opera breaks a glass. The frequency of her voice, of her sound, is exactly the frequency of the glass and it's additive and it's just too much energy for the glass and it breaks. And that's what happens with the Reif machine.

Speaker 1: 16:27

So, anyway, so the question that's been since we've been looking at medical journals and publications, you know, way back to the 1850s, 1860s, up to the 1890s. Right around the turn of that century, some of the top medical people were talking about CFCs as if they were a parasitic condition or an infection sort of thing. Parasitic condition or an infection sort of thing. But that's been hard to prove, actually impossible to prove, because we're talking about nanosize. Nanosize is one billionth of a meter, right. And when we think of most bacteria and funguses, we're thinking of micro size, micrograms or micrometers, right, instead of nanometers. So in other words, we really don't know what's going on at that level, and we're not. We could know because we've got the technology now, but we're just not looking into it. Who's we? We are the funded pharmaceutical companies now. Who's we? We are the funded pharmaceutical companies Now.

Speaker 1: 17:28

So, whether you are using a, so my answer to you, adrian, is that you've got to get at least a couple more and also get the antiprotozoa. Remember, we're exposed to protozoa. You've heard of amoebic dysentery. People get that. Entamoeba. Malaria is a protozoa. There's lots of them. But there's Giardia and you know many, many. So we cannot ignore them.

Speaker 1: 17:54

All right, and remember, whatever we, if we find, somehow find a microorganism, we have to understand that it exists in an ecosystem. It doesn't exist alone. You know, led to believe by the way the medical people look at it, that you have pneumonia, right, you've got an infection in your lung and they got a sample of it and they say it's streptococcus or it's whatever. Well, that is the predominant organism, but there's a microsystem of other microorganisms in there, many, just like a human ecosystem. If you wanted to get off the grid with a group of people, you'd have to say, well, we've got to have at least one plumber, one carpenter, one chef, one educator. There are certain people you need to have an ecosystem, survive and progress, and it's the same with them.

Speaker 1: 18:52

This brings up the whole idea of probiotics and prebiotics. If you're taking probiotics, which are usually a combination of the microorganisms that we need for health, but they don't find the food they need to live, they won't stay, and that's the problem. They just won't be able to colonize. And where do they get their food? They get their food from what we eat. That's their food, so we're feeding them. So whatever microorganisms are in our body, whatever dysbiosis we have, of any kind, is a direct result of what we're feeding them and how we're living. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 1: 19:29

So if someone is doing this the three anti-helminthics, worm anti-worms, one or two anti-protozoa, one or two anti-fungals, which are, you know, nystatin and diflucan, which are the two main ones If you're doing that, how long do you do that? Well, these worms, for example, can lay up to 200,000 eggs a day. Up to 200,000 eggs a day. Some are only 2,000 eggs a day, some are 70,000 eggs a day, but there's a lot of these eggs. Each one of those eggs can become 50,000, 70,000, 200,000 worms.

Speaker 1: 20:07

And so, even if you take a good dose initially of everything and you actually which is almost impossible eliminate all of the adults, you've still got all of the eggs and the larva, and the eggs will be hatching, and so it's just kind of a rolling process, and don't think of it as the number of organisms that are colonizing the term that we use is biomass. It's just that you can imagine, every two weeks and they're on different cycles that they laid the eggs, right. So basically they always have eggs, hatching lots of them and laying new eggs. So that's why we do three weeks on one week off, three weeks on one week off, three weeks on one week off. And how many cycles do you do?

Speaker 1: 21:20

If you have CFCs and your liver's, okay, you'll be monitoring your liver function. You could go up to probably 10 to 12 cycles, right, and then you could do it yearly, maybe two or three cycles, just to make sure that you're killing any parasites that have survived. However, in the interim between those annual three months, I would also recommend taking the doses of ivermectin, of mebendazole, niclosamide, for their anti-CFC stem cells. So remember, when a CFC is going to metastasize, a cell has to break off from the tumor and it has to go through six major steps in order to successfully arrive somewhere and cause a new tumor growth. So the beginning of that is the stem cell has to break off and that's how it all begins. So if you're taking low dose ivermectin low dose compared to what we take for a full on cleanse ivermectin, fenbendazole and niclosamide they're not going to get very far.

Speaker 1: 22:37

Stem cells won't make it, and these medications have been shown and proven. If I could have everybody on Zoom I would be able to share with you the research. You can see it, it's not just me talking. It showed how they actually preferentially eliminate the stem cells, which is kind of nice, because what they're not doing preferentially is already eradicating the whole situation in the first place. So it's fantastic, good, good, you love the microbiology. It's amazing. I did too, but too bad. We learned all the wrong things. But having that information allows you to and that vocabulary allows you to really explore this. So Chris here's I'm just I don't like to jump out of our question, our brief set in questions but chris here's saying can you please confirm this list is sufficient for everything except toxoplasmosis?

Speaker 1: 23:27

Toxoplasmosis is a microorganism, that's a protozoa that has their part of their life cycle is through cats and you can get exposed through cat feces in any way. It's not just house cats and stuff, so there's ways of getting exposed. A lot of people sleep with their cats or they have many cats. It's really easy to get exposed. Now, most of the time it's not going to do anything in a fairly healthy human, except none of us are healthy anymore. No, most of the time it's not going to do anything in a fairly healthy human, except none of us are healthy anymore, no matter how much work we, no matter how well guarded we live.

Speaker 1: 24:02

What I mean by that is that we make sure we're going to bed early, we make sure we're moving around, eating organic food, reading in a six hour window, reading human food, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We're doing all those things we're still exposed to. We're eating human food, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We're doing all those things. We're still exposed to incredible amounts of EMF and 5G that we've accumulated over the last 120 years.

Speaker 1: 24:21

So prior to that, in 1900, a human being on Earth would, if there was a parasite problem, could easily just take a few herbs, such as Holda Clark has defined and others. But at this point now our immune systems are so weakened and so unbalanced that we really need something stronger at this point in time. So for that reason, toxoplasmosis, which would normally be an opportunistic type of situation you know you more readily can colonize. Now they can get into your brain and other different organs and they form these cysts and stuff. So it can be pretty bad, very bad, very much associated with CFCs, especially brain CFCs. So how do you deal with them? You deal with them by.

Speaker 1: 25:15

You know there are different antimicrobial substances such as bactrim. You all know bactrim and it's also known as scepter. I wish I could share this with you. You know I'd love to show you this research, just so you know that I'm not just making it all up. I I wonder if I can share this. I can't share it. Anyway, the usual medications for toxoplasmosis are the pyrimethamine and the sulfadiazine, or Bactrim, which is trimethoprim, sulfamethoxazole, and that's a great combination and very steady, high doses. But again, as I was alluding to before, none of these organisms are isolated. They've got others like them around to help maintain the environment that they need to live in Right, and I'll give you an example of that.

Speaker 1: 26:11

I attended a lecture. Let's see what was that it had to be 20 years ago or more. In Japan it's a Japanese version of the annual conference they have in LA, specifically usually at the Sheraton at the Universal City. It's called the Cancer it's not Cancer Cure I can't remember the name of that conference, but anyway they have the same one, the same guys involved, in Japan. So I was there over 20 years ago and there was a presentation made by an oncologist who lived somewhere in Japan, outside of Tokyo, and he had in his presentation. He had CT slides, pictures before and after, and he was only treating with antifungals. Now what's amazing about that is that his results were phenomenal, you know.

Speaker 1: 27:04

So then people like Simon Cheney came up later and said well, cfcs are a fungus. Well, they're not a fungus. What it turns out is that they have such similar metabolic requirements to be alive that they're often living together. Like I said, you're never going to find an isolated microorganism. They live together because they support each other. And so what this doctor was finding out he didn't quite understand it, but what he was finding out was that, if he can remove the funguses from the picture, that the contribution they were giving to help the cfcs is gone, and can you imagine how strong that powerful that and abroad the uh help was from that one microorganism. But because by eliminating the, the, the all, the yeast and funguses, many people had clean scans, all right.

Speaker 1: 27:57

So imagine, here we are, we've got it all. We've got worms, we've got protozoa, we've got funguses. And it's not that they are, it's not the germ theory kind of idea, they are. It's not the germ theory kind of idea. It's just that they understand that it's actually the Pasteur's theory or the milieu. And that is because of our dysregulated immune system, our dysregulated hormonal system. We don't eat food, we eat other stuff, et cetera. We live our lives like opposite to the way you would live if you wanted to be healthy. Because of all that, we've got a disproportion of the organisms we don't want high and the ones we do want low. Because of all this stuff, because of our immune system being dysregulated, because we're feeding them food that they like, not the food that would promote the growth of the healthy bacteria, healthy microorganisms.

Speaker 1: 28:57

So it really comes down to diet, attitude and meditation, understanding and then getting hold of the right medications. So I'm not sure if I answered your question, but I might've come close. Okay, let's see what. The next question is when was that? I know it's there. Oh there, it is Okay cool. But anyway, you and your wife should join the CFC group so we can, because there's more than just you know. When you have a situation that CFCs, you don't want to just rely on one or two modalities, because you're dealing with a situation that is like biology at its best. So you need to be using everything you can, so everything that you can, to make it impossible for the CFCs to exist. So join the group and you'll get those protocols and all that. We can help you work with whatever local doctor you have. So this is Lily.

Speaker 1: 29:58

I'm following your protocol for a parasite cleanse. However, I'm still struggling with swelling, particularly in my legs and back. I do lymphatic massages daily and drink plenty of water to try to help overcome. It is still rather bad. Also, I've always struggled with sleeping, and I think that this is related to my problems with parasites. Lately I have noticed that my sleep is worse if I take antiparasitics later than 4 pm and causes me to stay awake for many hours after going to bed.

Speaker 1: 30:31

What do you recommend? All right, you're following my protocol and I wonder what that is. I don't have a specific protocol, but if it's appropriate to you. So I think you're probably referring to ivermectin, one of the benzimidazole, as I was saying before. Yeah, but remember, the protocol that would be appropriate for any one person would just require a little more understanding of all the conditions that are going on your travel history, lots of things that we could fine-tune it. But we could also use the acupuncture meridian test, which was perfected by Dr Simon Yu in St Louis. It's pretty amazing. By looking at these points they can pinpoint situations and also what will help them. But to refine the protocol Anyway, but you're doing that and you're still having what this question is inferring is that the parasites were the cause, or are the cause, of your leg swelling.

Speaker 1: 31:34

The parasites were the cause, or are the cause, of your leg swelling. He said struggling with your legs and your back, meaning your lower back, I'm sure. So you see, if you were on a group, I would ask you questions. For example, when you're saying leg swelling, you must be talking about the entire leg. Is swelling up, right If it's including your back, it's not just your feet. So when we just see feet or ankles, we think of the heart slowing down, not being able to pump strong enough, or overwhelmed by high blood pressure, or there's different ways that would cause that kind of swelling. But if it's up to your, including your whole legs and your back, it could still be that, but it could also be other things. There might also be some swelling in your hands and arms that you're not aware of.

Speaker 1: 32:20

Anyway, there's a lot of things that need to be done to find out really what's going on with you, right? Do you have a normal albumin? That's number one. Anyway, there's many things we need to know to answer that question, and I would not necessarily put the parasite whatever parasite situation is going on, and assume that that is the cause of the leg swelling, because we don't know, and you have to, you have to know that you don't know. So now you're absolutely right that sleeping has a is directly related to this, and not that it caused this whole situation, because, remember, there's never any one thing that causes anything. It's multiple variables. But in this case the sleep is, and we're talking about when you go to sleep and the number of hours, but more importantly, when, because getting the same number of hours of sleep that are considered adequate at one part of the 24-hour cycle versus another part is the difference between having a healthy immune system and a poor immune system. It's that foundational, so we should go to bed by 8.

Speaker 1: 33:28

If you're having trouble sleeping, again, there's many ways to look at that. We'd have to look at your adrenal glands. Are you having adrenal exhaustion that is manifesting by your? Instead of having an early morning cortisol, you have a flat cortisol in the morning, which means you don't have a lot of energy and you're not that motivated in the morning. But as the day proceeds you have more and more and you have more energy. Pretty soon it's 8 pm and you're peaking. Your body is exhausted. Soon it's 8 pm and you're peaking. Your body may is exhausted because you haven't, because it's time for bed according to your body, but not inside. So we can do a few tests to see if you actually do have that kind of adrenal fatigue.

Speaker 1: 34:05

But just by clinically what you're explaining you know, I would suggest going on an adrenal rest protocol that involves taking appropriate small doses of hydrocortisone, which is what the is the hormone that the adrenal glands produce. Just taking the amount that they normally produce, 20 milligrams they all healthy adrenal gland will produce anywhere from 20 to 25 milligrams a day of cortisol, also called hydrocortisone. But all the other steroids, like prednisone and solumedrol, whatever, none of them, are naturally occurring. So in the adrenal rest protocol what you're taking is you're taking small amounts, like five milligrams, four times a day, so that your adrenal glands can rest. They don't have to make it, and that's why we call it the adrenal rest protocol. And then you could also add other herbs, like ashwagandha, for sure, but you can also add ginseng, and there's many others. There are a whole list of them. Again, you'll find it on the website by joining the groups. But these herbs they're called adaptogens just because they they they support the maintenance and vitality and renewal of the cells in the adrenal glands, so they're really good, they're really helpful. So during this or adrenal rest protocol, you would do a minimum six weeks, maybe eight weeks, right, and then stop for a while and see what, see what happens. Because we're talking about conditions that are not usually identified by the medical world and therefore there's been no research into the area and if there has been, it's very minimal, usually done in academic centers that are able to fund it themselves, without pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 1: 35:50

But the other thing is sleep hygiene movement. If you don't move around a lot during the day, you're going to have a different kind of fatigue than the person who does, at the end of the day, move around all day. So at the end of the day, for the person who's active and doing things, it's kind of like muscles are exhausted and all that and the person easily falls asleep. The kind of weakness and fatigue and lethargy that you get from not moving around all day is due to basically, your body dealing with a metabolism that is not being optimized, which is what movement does. So that helps with sleep. Doing a mind enema before sleep helps. Before sleep helps. A mind enema is just simply sitting down at least 30 minutes before you're going to sleep and you've already eliminated all the.

Speaker 1: 36:38

You turned off all the electronic equipment in the house, turned off the Wi-Fi and old school. Get a pad of paper and write down everything you did today that needed to happen, that you're remembering, and then everything that you didn't get done, that you needed to get done, and then reestablish them in your next day's priorities. So what I need to do first, I got to make sure I do this, this, this, this. Look at your medium-term goals and then your long-term goals and just write them down. And what you've done by what happens when you do this is you're basically emptying and resolving or coming up with a conclusion for resolution. So, for example, you know you didn't get this phone call made, you know you didn't call that person, you weren't able to show up on time for this and all those things, so now you've got to get them number one on your list to do so. This helps you stay aware of what's happening and not happening in your life and also it gives you resolution.

Speaker 1: 37:42

But regarding sleep, now, when you go to bed and you don't feel like you're sleepy, you don't have to think about these things because you've already thought about them. These things, because you've already thought about them. There's music. You can get music turned to the 432 hertz a turned to 432 hertz there rather than the 440 nwo. There's other kinds of music and then you can also use meditation, which you should be doing anyway such as ohm or whatever it is listening to your breath, and do that when you get into bed. You've done all the other. You've turned off electronics, you've taken your melatonin right, because everyone's going to be taking melatonin and that's it all right.

Speaker 1: 38:25

So melatonin does not only help establish the sleep cycle it'll put you to sleep but it also is one of the most potent, if not the most potent, scavengers of the hydroxyl radical, which is metabolic byproduct involved in almost everything, so that it accumulates inside of cells and does all the damage that we know happens to cells. So each melatonin molecule can grab four of those guys. The other thing that melatonin does is it enhances and balances the immune system tremendously, and we see this when we look at the incidence of CFCs in blind people versus people who are called sighted or can see. So the blind person. If you understand that, melatonin is derived from tryptophan, which is an amino acid that, through enzymatic steps, winds up at serotonin, which is released.

Speaker 1: 39:24

The serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's also considered a hormone, the feel-good hormone, all that. You need to have adequate levels of that in order to generally have a good attitude and feel, feel good. And so the the drug companies are looking to promote the drugs that enhance the amount of serotonin, and they do it by blocking its normal physiological degradation and recycling, which, of course, when you're blocking a vital process of metabolism, it's going to find another way to get established, excuse me, so anyway. So the melatonin will stimulate T cells, natural killer cells, dendritic cells, all of that. It's a powerful immune enhancer. So we know about the tryptophan. Going to the serotonin, there's another enzymatic step that only gets activated below a certain luminosity. So when the ambient light decreases below a certain luminosity, that stimulates the enzyme that takes the serotonin and turns it into melatonin. So melatonin is actually a neurotransmitter, immune modulator.

Speaker 1: 40:36

Right, because blind people, blind women, I think one third the number of the incidence of CFCs. Now that's significant because we're talking about only one variable, really, because the women were matched on all other variables like age, age, marital status, number of children to work, so they matched everything else. But the one thing that was significant is that the blind people are always in the dark, so they're always making excess melatonin. So you, you want to be taking that. So we want to get up to 180 milligrams a night if you're doing parasites, because our pineal glands unfortunately go through Over time, all of the organs in our body begin to lose their ability to function and it is 99% due to the accumulated toxins just by living.

Speaker 1: 41:32

So what's happened, as we all know, is in our Western society, even if you're not in the Western world. The West has metastasized to the rest of the world in terms of values and food. Everybody's eating KFC, drinking at Starbucks, mcdonald's, burger King, kfc. So, in summary, our immune systems are in trouble and the things that really keep them active and healthy are taking care of the pineal gland. Our pineal gland is getting calcified because of fluoride and other situations, damaging our pineal gland, which produces three very important chemicals epithalin, melatonin and dimethyltryptamine. They're all very important for you know almost what we would consider adjunctive kinds of processes, but they're not. They're actually very essential so that the the epithalin, which is it's only four amino acids, very small basically controls what's going on. With the melatonin, which controls the immune system, as I said, it's a powerful antioxidant. It helps you sleep, but epithelium in and of itself also increases telomere length, which decreases aging or extends life. It's pretty important stuff.

Speaker 1: 43:02

And the dimethyltryptamine there are receptors for it in our brain is a biochemical process by which humans have the experience of transcendental. They have a transcendental experience. So what are those? Those are like, uh, you know, being in love, you know anything that really moves you. It kind of takes you out of what's going on, into like wow and awe. That's that requires the dmt and it's also used there.

Speaker 1: 43:33

It's also being produced and involved in lots of situations that are basically allowing one to transcend an experience. What I mean by that is that, even though you're going through an experience, it doesn't define you and it doesn't capture your mind and spirit, no matter how negative it is. It's not going. No matter how negative it is, it's not going to do that. You're going to see it in a, in a uh, in a totality, and you'll be removed from it. You'll get it to that degree, um, you know. So if someone were having experience with meditation or how about going on a hike in the forest and being whoa blown away? And it's used in other ways that we're not even sure of.

Speaker 1: 44:18

This is the molecule that is isolated when they're doing the ayahuasca ceremonies and it's produced in large amounts at terminal moments in life when you're dying. So it probably mediates a lot of the experiences that we're having Now. Remember, just because there's a molecule involved in a process and required for a process doesn't mean that it's causing it. It would not have been released and in the synergistic arrangement with other molecules in the body if it weren't for something else. So it's not the molecule that's causing it. It's the mechanism.

Speaker 1: 45:00

Now, this is from kathy and it's called alternative. Unfortunately she's using the astrological word, but we'll say alternative cfc treatment therapies, previous patient of dr lodi, via phone. Anyway, you can email my instructions to me. Working with Doc that will put me on his protocol for parasites, detox, etc. I watched his podcast on parasites but couldn't get all the information out. Could I get someone to enable me to email? Okay? So, kathy, that's a great question.

Speaker 1: 45:34

If you go to my website, drlodycom drlodycom it's there and it was basically a webinar. It's available. So if you join the group, you'll have free access to it. Otherwise, there's a fee I think it's $25 or something, but that's available and you can watch it repeatedly. If you join the group, you'll have access to the monthly webinars we have every month. You'll have access to the meetings we have the live Zoom meetings with me, Access to the Vanessa and Darren teaching showing the how in everything that we're talking about how to do these movements and prepare foods, et cetera, and then Donna. So you'll be getting a lot of access. It'll be very important for you, but right?

Speaker 1: 46:23

So what I don't know and this is why I'd be grateful we're in a group together is you're doing this, you've got a doctor to work with you to do the parasite protocol, but you know that's the wrong assumption, that that's the only thing going on, and it's really important to correct all of our physiological problems and the reason we have physiological problems. What I mean by that is that under situations where the body is receiving all of its biological requirements and not receiving stuff that it doesn't need ie toxins and in the mind, our relationship with the world of people is healthy and balanced, so we have no psychological issues, then the result is optimal functioning. So if that's not happening, we know that somehow one or many of these different biological or psychological systems is not adequate, so it's got to be corrected. And if not, this won't, nothing will work. So it's not that you've got something and you got to get rid of it, so that you need to restore your balance and whatever was happening won't be there. So I don't know that. What's going on? I don't. I can't get that from this writing. So, but yes, the answer to the question, that's where you can get that protocol. All right, excuse me a minute, one second please. All right, sorry, there's just no way to stop the construction noise. I apologize. So struggling with sleeping. Okay, so that's the thing with sleeping and the anti-parasites. It's not the only situation that's going on. You could easily have adrenal problems and other hormonal imbalances that we all have because we're all subjected to, like it or not, hormone disruptors Incredibly so. Yeah, anyway, Joe, I see that you have a lot of really serious concerns. Please join the groups. Get on to drlodycom and join these groups so we can work directly. Okay, Amy, just real quickly.

Speaker 1: 48:22

Fluoride should not be used. I think most people know that. But you know, fluoride originally in the 20s was used as an anti-to-kill insects in crops and stuff and because it was causing problems with people, they kind of hit it and they wound up putting it in toothpaste. Why they're saying that fluoride actually makes bones stronger. That's right. You know the fluoride attracts calcium, which it does in the pineal glands, and it makes it makes the bond stronger, but the bones also become more brittle and they break more easily, so that that function for which we're supposedly taking it is a lie. But it also gets into the pineal gland, as I said, in that it destroys the pineal gland. So you're absolutely right, it's a poison, all right.

Speaker 1: 49:07

So now, so this Kathy, previous patient of dr Lodi, via phone. Anyway, you can email instructions to me working with doctor, that will help. Oh, that's the one we were talking about. So, kathy, let me look up our consult, all right, and I will get back to you. Let me copy this, all right, and so make that in a note here. Also, kathy, it'd be really good to join the group. Very good Now, becky.

Speaker 1: 49:43

So this question is what's? The question is let's see Becky's asking what is recommended for essential thrombocythemia, all right, well, just for everyone, thrombo refers to thrombocytes, or basically cells that are involved in the blood clotting system, and that's platelets that the bone marrow produces. Right, bone marrow produces three lines of cells all of our red blood cells, our white blood cells, which is our immune system, and thrombocytes, which are platelets, right, and so if you have an overproduction of them, the word emia means in blood, so you're having excess. If the suffix at the end of the word was cytosis, thrombocytosis, it would be low, so essential. When the word essential is used in a diagnosis, it means they don't know the reason for it. With hypertension, the vast majority 80%, 90% is essential, meaning they don't know the cause. It's obvious, but they don't know it.

Speaker 1: 50:49

So essential thrombocytosithemia means that the platelets are going up and we don't know why is that dangerous? Because the platelets are the first parts. They're the way the clotting process begins. If you have a cut, the platelets show up to close it up, to stop it. Anyway, it prevents bleeding and hemorrhage and stuff like that. So what is causing that? So that means obviously something is stimulating the bone marrow to produce excess. There's excess thrombocytes, resulting in excess platelets, and there are genetic. They're calling them genetic Again, and remember, the word genetic is actually being, it's overused, it's kind of like the word autoimmune and you know almost any of the words, like Alzheimer's and all these words. The definition of what they are changes because they're not really entities. Diagnoses are not really entities, they're physiological responses, but anyway. But there are certain pathways that are associated with thrombocytosis, right, and these are also very much associated with different kinds of cfcs, right.

Speaker 1: 52:07

But the problem with the platelets as they get high, really, really, really high, you start clotting or they, you know, if they're in excess, they can accumulate in very small arterioles and capillaries and plug them up and basically cause areas of ischemia where it blocks the blood flow and there's no oxygen in the tissue, so it can do that, so you can have strokes, or what they call tia, tias, transient ischemic ischemic attacks. The only difference between a tia and a stroke is that a stroke is. You know, you, you have a stroke and, let's say, the right side of your body is paralyzed. It remains paralyzed two weeks later. In a tia transient ischemic ischemic attack you, it happens for a short time and that's because the clot gets resolved and doesn't wind up in blocking the blood flow. That actually kills the tissues, so it can cause TIAs.

Speaker 1: 53:00

So the question is and I guess if they've diagnosed you with that, that means they must have done a bone marrow biopsy to say that's what you have right, and so you know the original treatment was well, let's decrease the effectiveness of platelets, so platelets need to do their job of causing a clot, they need to start to accumulate. So that's what aspirin does you know, taking the 81 milligrams or low-dose aspirin daily for people to prevent heart attacks and strokes, et cetera? What the aspirin is doing is blocking the platelets from adhering to each other and forming a clot right. In more extensive situations, such as thrombocytosis that you're probably referring to, the first line is usually something called hydroxyurea, and that will keep them. You know, you, you got to stay on that, but that will keep them from accumulating. But again, and there are other ones, there's interferon alpha, which is a secondary, and there's anelgoride, and there's other drugs they have that are blocking the effects of having too many platelets.

Speaker 1: 54:08

But really, what we've got to find out is what's happening. Why is that happening? Let's stop that from happening, because if we don't, we've got to find out is what's happening. Why is that happening? Let's stop that from happening, because if we don't, we're gonna have to be taking this drug, and immediately, if it works, you know. So, anyway, it's also part of a condition called myoplastic disorders and they are basically what we might call pre-leukemic kind of conditions.

Speaker 1: 54:33

So I don't know what's going on, because unless we understand the mechanism by which these excess platelets are being produced, we can't understand the definitive way of restoring balance. Where that's not happening, is there something that's colonizing in the bone marrow? That's not happening, you know, is there a some something that's colonizing in the bone marrow that's affecting specifically that? Now? Um, so, as I said, the treatments are aspirin or any other thing that will decrease platelet adhesion. Uh, but definitively, they use hydroxyurea. So those are, those are the treatments to stop the manifestation, but they're not dealing with the cause.

Speaker 1: 55:15

What you need to do is assume, because what I've found with leukemias and lymphomas is that something has gotten into the bone marrow that has disrupted its ability to do its job and produce the appropriate amount of whatever it is cells, white cells or platelets. So, like with all other conditions, we need to first get rid of every possible source of toxicity, beginning with the oral cavity, which is biological dentistry, and then doing the cleansing and all the things that we do talk about. Please join the group so that we can get into all this in more detail and more specifically. And you know, is it a virus? And then the question becomes do viruses exist? And the answer is most likely not in the way that we think they exist at all, but whatever that is has gotten into the bone marrow Anyway. So we don't know what's happened. So we do know that we need to get rid of all the possible toxicities and restore balance, and that's even like, obviously essential when you don't think you know the cause, because if you think you know the cause, then you're going to go after that as if that in you know the cause, then you're going to go after that and as if that, in isolation, was the cause. And we must all remember that there's never one cause. There are multiple variables that go in resulting in a particular but a physiological adaptation. I know that you're cannot feel satisfied with that answer, but you know, know, that's it. And there's, there's lots of herbs that will do similar, have similar actions to aspirin, but that's just blocking the effects but not stopping the fundamental problem. That's what we have to do, right? No, and this is a question by Michael. And the question is what is methylene blue and is it safe or recommended? Well, we've actually addressed this multiple times.

Speaker 1: 57:18

Methylene blue is a very commonly used compound. We use it in the ER for various things and it's got multiple amazing good effects. So, yes, it is recommended. You can get a toxicity from it. Uh, so the uh? There's a uh blue green algae that gives you the same effect like spirulina, but you can easily find this online. That has all the benefits of the methylene blue, but there's no potential side effects. But, that being said, methylene blue has been used for I don't know, maybe more than 100 years, I'm not sure exactly how long, but it's amazing, and while you're looking for the herbs that you might want to be using or the blue-green algae, you could start with that and methylene blue, of course, depending on the situation it's. Also it accumulates at the site of certain problems, like tumors, and then you could shine a red light on them and activate them. So there's all sorts of uses with methylene blue. So, yes, it's very legitimate.

Speaker 1: 58:27

Excuse me, I saw one question over here. I try not to answer these, but these are the right now and this is chris saying. Please read this. I did a ton of research based on mostly on your information. In canada. This is the cycle I came up with ivermectin, benedizol, albendizol, prosecuantil and nitazoxam. These are approved for human consumption here.

Speaker 1: 58:50

Fenbenazole is not, nor is niclosamide. First of all, you can get niclosamide from niclosamcom and the Indian pharmacies, and if the fembenazole is not available, I'm sure they have mebendazole. So in the prosaic quanta you might not necessarily need. So if you can get, you've got the ivermectin and the bendisol. You don't need to take albendazole and the bendisol. Okay, you've got to try to get the niclosamide in, because? But I don't know exactly what you're doing this for. Are you doing it for an actual parasite cleanse or are you doing it for its effect? It's the helpful effects on CFCs. It's the helpful effects on CFCs and, as you know, you can even get things that are not legally acceptable in certain countries. You can get them.

Speaker 1: 59:44

Every country's got a method of getting them, but the odd thing is it's not available in certain countries than other countries today. There's nothing that makes sense out of that. There's no way to make sense out of that. Each country has their unique rules. Thailand has very unique rules that apply only to it. That don't make sense, but that's true with every country, and it usually comes down what happened here. But that's true with every country, and it usually comes down to money If something for some reason is not taxable or whatever, or the FDA has not approved something because it's working with another company that has produced a synthetic version of the mechanisms that an herb or something would produce. Anyway, it's just anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:00:39

But the point is this you can get any of these things, but I don't know exactly what you're doing it for. But I'm a bendazole or fenbendazole, and I would say niclosamide over prosiquantel, and then nitrozoxanide, of course, is great because it's getting protozoas and a few of the worms on the side of that. Okay, so now where are we? And so, by the way, just going back to Becky for a second, with essential thermocythemia, there are other drugs used in oncology that are even stronger, that work. There are other drugs used in oncology that are even stronger that work. So you can, and sometimes they just take out your blood and throw it away, or spin out your platelets and take them out. But again, all of that is just dealing with the symptoms, which sometimes you need to deal with initially, but you've got to get to the underlying cause. So that's what I was trying to emphasize.

Speaker 1: 1:01:33

And this is Offman. I am a healthy 63 year old man following healthy lifestyle and just started your protocol. Three weeks for three weeks. The one week break will repeat the cycle. Then we'll repeat the cycle. My question is shall repeat the protocol again and for how long? It really depends?

Speaker 1: 1:01:55

So your topic is under CFC prevention. Please don't use that word. You know Capricorn or Scorpio or any of them. You know Gemini, cancer, leo, don't use any of those. The word is chronically fermenting cells. So since your topic is on the prevention of that and you're focusing here obviously on the parasite protocol. I would do that at least. It's hard to say at least three to six times, because, remember, we're getting the cycles that kill the eggs and then a maintenance part. But there's many other things you could be doing too. You say you're living a healthy lifestyle. That's fantastic. I would like to discuss that with you and see if there's any way we can make sure that that's being. You're getting the most out of it. You're really living a truly healthy lifestyle, right, janice?

Speaker 1: 1:02:47

This is again, in prevention, what to do if you can't find a doctor who is willing to work with you in this regiment. We have asked several doctors about ivermectin, femenzol, et cetera. Well, first of all, it's extremely difficult to find a doctor just know that that would go along with this, even with doctors that call themselves alternative or integrated physicians, because there's no specific training in what we're talking about. Because there's no specific training in what we're talking about, training in parasitology or understanding parasites and treating them, gives you a very good, strong understanding of what the different parasites are and their life cycles, etc. The drugs that are used to treat them are the ones we're talking about. However, they're in such low doses, for example, with liver flukes, which are the certain liver flukes that are directly the cause of biliary CFCs, cholangiocarcinoma, and the treatment is absurd. It's like prosaicontal 600 milligram once a day for like seven days or something. And remember, if there are parasites and we undertreat them, they just get disturbed and they migrate to other organs, and that's not what we want. So let me turn this off a minute. Ah, yeah, okay, so to fight a doctor.

Speaker 1: 1:03:59

Well, the resources that I've mentioned before are acam, american college of well, I'm drawing a blank on that, that's weird. Anyway, acam a-c-a-m and they were one of the first institutions that basically were professional organizations who were basically was kind of like the AMA version of those who didn't want to follow the AMA. Well-known, they teach their doctor, they train them in chelation and all sorts of therapies. So they have a website and then it says looking for a physician. You can give them the state you're in and they'll tell you all the ones that have been trained by them and then also a list of the things that they've been certified. So if they have a number of them and they seem like it's worth your time, give them a call and find out. Do they understand the parasite program? Would they help you? But what you need to know is that soon I will have an association with a pharmacy where I know that you can get everything. Soon I will have an association with a pharmacy where I know that you can get everything, and until that time I wish you could join our groups, because you know all the members. In addition to the weekly Zooms, we have and we add content, you know, in terms of writing or research articles. We have telegram groups where everybody is in constant discussion with themselves, with each other, and, it's amazing, all the resources that have come up. So almost anything you need will be available there. Now there's a resource page where you can go to find them, so there is a way to get them. You don't necessarily need to have a doctor work with you, and you can even find one that's not near you, but you can have a virtual relationship with them. That's become legal in most places now.

Speaker 1: 1:05:40

This is from paris. Topic is parasites says. First round of the protocol, day 19 of the first three weeks, and my whole body was squirming large parasites in the intestines, heart I'm not sure what squimming means heartworm and all over the body, violet squirming. It's alarming. Obviously I have a big problem. No, no, this is not a common occurrence with people who are taking these anti-parasitics. So if you're squirming and really uncomfortable, this is such an indistinct, nonspecific symptom or group of symptoms that we really need to have a doctor evaluate you and do some testing. I mean, humans don't usually have heartworms, it's just you know. But something's going on. I realize that, you know. I'm wondering if you've been to Costa Rica or South Central and South America and got exposed to places where the bot fly is endemic but that can cause squirming and feeling like parasites are, you know, crawling around inside of you. You know it's a horrible situation. So in order to answer this, we really need to interact. I would join the group Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:06:58

So now regarding limes. Okay, tried doing a parasite cleanse for a decade. After a decade of dealing with limes, I was also recommended to do liver flushes and I chose a well-known herbal parasite protocol, parathy 5. Without knowing enough about anything, I began the protocol. I quit halfway through After only two weeks. It was due to intense hexing.

Speaker 1: 1:07:29

I then took several weeks off and tried ivermectin for two weeks and again stopped due to feeling almost septic and becoming scared. I think I understand. I made my problem worse, wondering if I follow your protocol now. Is it too late for me to work that out now? They have burrowed deeper into other organs, all right. Are there other things to kill them? Yes, you know, you know I don't. You know it's really hard to say if they have burrowed into other organs or not. But you have the sensations, the experiences you're having are legitimate. I just don't know what's causing them. But don't assume that that's what it is, because you may have feelings, but don't assume that's what it is. It may be what it is, but keep your mind open to again all of a sudden, with everybody and everything.

Speaker 1: 1:08:12

It begins with cleansing cleansing, going a biological dentist and doing a juice, cleanse, calm, etc. Essential to any person who wants to heal from anything. That's got to be done in addition to what we will learn by delving into this further. All right. So I then took several weeks off and tried Ivermectin for two weeks and again stopped, feeling almost septic and scared of hurting myself. Since these two-week-only protocols I've gotten much sicker now, passing variable parasites in my stool for over six months. All right.

Speaker 1: 1:08:48

So, karen, you've got to get a hold of Oasis and Oasisofhealingcom and Oasisofhealingcom and Oasisofhealingcom. You can also just it's easier to remember just go to StopMakingCancercom one word and that'll redirect you. And then you've got to make an appointment with. They will have you fill out your questionnaires and then you can have an appointment with one of our doctors or me to help us establish a protocol and make sure that you're appropriate. So my liver is so congested that I get really sick taking supplements and medications, all right. So I really need to speak with you. So I need to know what you mean by that, all these things. So please join one of the groups, the parasite group sounds like.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

Lisa, I know that this question may be or so, unapproved, important, but your question's important. Can't figure out why, all all of a sudden, after being plant-based for nearly three years, suddenly I'm so bloated, constipated, anyway. So, lisa, maybe unimportant. So you've been doing a plant-based diet for over three years, suddenly you're so bloated, constipated and cannot get relief. Diet is the same, no changes, tried peppermint, tea, lemon water, more fiber. I am moving bowels in the morning, but still am bloated. So, lisa, here's the thing bowels in the morning, but still imploded, okay. So so, lisa, here's the thing. Obviously you've got an extreme dysbiosis in your gut, which you know. We all have two different degrees and it sounds like a hard time moving your bowels.

Speaker 1: 1:10:25

So there are herbs. There's one herbal product that it used to be called super cleanse. We could find it and they stopped making it. Now they have it's called the super. I don't know whatever it is. It just doesn't work as good. There's another thing called Colon Max. These are all herbal products and there are many, many online, and taking those are extremely helpful.

Speaker 1: 1:10:46

The other thing that's extremely helpful is start eating just uncooked plant foods, salads and stuff like that. Get chia seeds. Take the six tablespoons of chia seeds in the morning, soak them for at least two or three hours in a fresh nut milk, or just leave them soaking in the fresh nut milk overnight in the refrigerator and then let them warm up naturally to room temperature, and then you can add cinnamon, you can add coconut, you can add berries, strawberries, whatever you want to make it taste good and eating those and make sure you're getting a lot of water too. That will give you all the volume of plus you're eating salads of uh to keep your stools moving. You'll have lots of fiber and then, once you get things moving, if you are constipated, once you get some of the larger, harder pieces of stool out, then you can go get a whole body not a whole body, an open system. Colonic, really, really important, at least twice a week for eight times at least, and then once a week and then eventually every other week.

Speaker 1: 1:11:53

All right, so many people, as you can all see from reading these questions, think that ivermectin and fenbendazole and all these antiparasitic drugs are going to cure something. That's the idea. We're still into the cure mentality when understanding there's no such thing as a cure, since there's no such thing as disease. The goal is to restore healthy physiology and that really has to be understood on a very deep level. You're not going to get rid of anything because everything is manifesting in the way that it is out of necessity. And if you don't change the necessity but what's necessary, they can't's just the way it is. Where is that? All right, I can't find it Anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:12:35

So, elizabeth, and colonics, and you can do enemas, you just got to get it cleaned out. Meanwhile you should start a green juice cleanse, and you know that recipe and drink three, four quarts a day and don't eat. Get a couple colonics the first week and maybe one colonic a week after that and or do daily enemas. You've got to restore the health of your body and take care of your dentistry and you still need to find the ivermectin and benzimidazole, such as femmedazole and mebendazole and niclosamide. So this is Petra and the topic is detox cleanse and it says hi, dr Lilley, I'm interested in working on supporting my lymphatic system. That said, I have invested in the Rolls Royce of rebounders. Do you think this would be done close to hands-on massage and be just as beneficial? Well, okay, the rebounder is excellent, and so is movement exercise. You know, those sorts of things are excellent for getting lymphatics moving. Another way to get lymphatics moving is with really deep diaphragmatic breathing or deep diaphragmatic laughing. Deep laughter also helps empty the cisterna chyli, which is the large lymphatic vessel that is accumulating from all the lower extremities your legs, pelvis, abdomen, left arm, left shoulder, left neck and left side of the brain.

Speaker 1: 1:14:06

The other thing for lymphatic system. What I would suggest is if you can find in your area a certified lymphatic therapist. They're not easy to find. I'm not sure where you live, but a certified lymphatic therapist is very, very different. A lot of times clinics will get a nurse trained, but a nurse just doesn't study. Neither do doctors study the lymphatic system the way lymphatic therapists do, and they know which lymph nodes are, which lymph vessels or pathways are required for elimination in that particular organ. So they can do both lymphatic massage, which is usually just getting the dermal layer of the outer layer of lymphatic vessels, but the deeper one can be modified with what's called. It's basically two glass wands with either argon, krypton or any of the noble gases. These are gases that don't react with anything, and so the wand just goes just over the skin and it can move things deeply, including blood, and so it'll bring the congestion out of a big tumor and all that. It's electro-lymphatic therapy. It's called E-L-T, and so you'd wanna find a certified lymphatic therapist, which means they're certified in manual, but they don't usually learn the electrodermal, so you want to make sure this person has learned that and is good at it. That would be very important as well.

Speaker 1: 1:15:37

Now, all right. So here's Danny. It's regarding parasites. It looks like many people are really focused on these drugs as being a way to eliminate, resolve situations, focused on these drugs as being the way to eliminate, resolve situations. They're absolutely important, it's a process, but they're not the cure. No, so here this question is from Danny saying could you please tell me what dosage is required for ivermectin, methamphetazole, mebamazole for prostate CFCs? You have got to join the prostate. You have got to join the CFC group. Very, very important. So those are okay. But again, you don't need to be taking mebendazole and mebendazole. You need to be taking maybe niclosamide in addition. But anyway, drlodycom, join the group Now. If you have membership in the CFC group, you automatically have membership in the parasite group and the health and healing group, which means you have access to all of their weekly Zoom consultations with me and all the other people I've mentioned. So join that and we can have an ongoing consultation for years. The PSA is down and it's not spreading. What would be the best dosage? All right. Anyway, danny, I hope you make an appointment to get on the parasite cleanse, at least in the parasite group or the CFC group. Then when you're on, we're having a Zoom meeting. You just ask a question directly and we'll go back and forth and we'll answer it the same way we would do it in a consultation. So very important. Right Now that looks like all of the questions for the week, but they were all parasites and others. I'm not seeing CFC questions. So I think somehow we're not getting that. I'm not sure how that's working. All right, let me just see I wanted to take a little extra time since it took so long to get on. It looks like a lot of you have been answering, so I've got long questions for you folks and I really want to answer them, but it's impossible because I can't clarify what you mean. So, tanya Casey here, do any of your doctors take insurance? Here's the thing. It doesn't matter if we take them. You know, the doctor accepts the insurance. The insurance won't pay for certain things Vitamin C IV, it won't pay for ozone, they won't pay for it. So even if we took it, it wouldn't pay for it. So we usually opt out of it because then we're required to use their protocols and we don't want to do that because they're not healthy. So it's a very difficult situation, I know. But the insurance would cover blood tests, scans, any other diagnostic procedures, anything we had to outsource, it would cover. And if we were to use ipt, which was low dose insulin, low dose chemo with insulin, they would cover it because the chemotherapy are drugs. Now, with the re-answer to the life insurance, call our main number and ask for Clotilde. She is the administrator. Ask for Clotilde. C-l-o-t-h-i-l-d-e. It looks like Clothilde, but it's Clothilde. It's a French name, clothilde. Call her and ask her that She'll help you. I'm pretty sure we do All right. So anyway, erected with parasites, it's all parasites.

Speaker 1: 1:19:02

So, patrick Hines, you've reached out to us by email. Okay, so I don't get those emails. I don't get those emails. I don't know what you mean at hellodoctorlodycom. If that's what it was, I'm going to copy this right now and send it off to our people. Make sure I don't know what happened. Oh wait, where is it? Where is it? Where were you? Where were you? Where were you? Oh, there you are. Stop letting me. Anyway, what is this, patrick Hines? Let me just Patrick, I don't know. Hello at drlodycom, and you're not going to be able to get in touch with me directly. So you should join the groups and we can discuss your situation twice a week.

Speaker 1: 1:19:49

Join the groups, patrick. I don't know what you're trying to ask, but you've reached out to me. That's fantastic and I'd like to hear from you. Join the groups. There's no other way because I can't do these one-on-one consultations. But as long as you're willing and comfortable with talking about your situation in larger groups and even in the larger group when we're doing the Zoom, the person who wants to keep things confidential can send the lab work only to me and stuff like that. But I'll still be discussing the situation in general so that everyone can learn from it. And it's fantastic.

Speaker 1: 1:20:24

And, michael, we have to answer your question next week. Let me see that again. I thought if I got that no, I didn't get it. All right, all right, you guys, that's it. Thank you so much and I'm so sorry for the ridiculous thing today. And anyway, I'm not sure where all those questions are going. So, the CFC group, cfc group and CFC questions I'm not sure where all those are going. Scabies yes, tina, the scabies. I can't get into it right now, but ivermectin topically is amazing orally. Anyway, so many questions and joining the groups is good, but I'm glad at least we get these Sunday Night Lives.

Speaker 1: 1:21:05

Okay, aloha, sawadikap, and thank you so much for hanging in there, and it was the construction that we got on. We made it. We did have a Sunday night live and I thank you and I'll see you all next week. Ok, if you're a group member, I'll see you tomorrow and then I'll see you again on Wednesday. So that's the thing, and we have interactions. So anyway, sawadikap namaste and aloha to everyone, yes, interaction. So anyway, sweaty cup namaste and aloha to everyone, yes.