Episode 155 - 7.13.25 Healing Pathways: Parasites, CFCs, and Natural Remedies

Ever wonder why conventional medicine seems to treat symptoms rather than causes? Dr. Thomas Lodi pulls back the curtain on a revolutionary approach to understanding health and disease that could transform your healing journey.

At the heart of Dr. Lodi's philosophy is a fundamental reframing: what mainstream medicine calls "cancer" is actually chronically fermenting cells (CFCs) – cells that have lost 60% of their mitochondrial function due to accumulated toxicity. This isn't just semantic wordplay; it completely shifts our understanding from a mysterious, frightening disease to a logical biological adaptation that can be systematically addressed.

The conversation reveals the shocking prevalence of parasites in chronic disease states – from dental infections to tumor development. Dr. Lodi shares compelling cases, including one where a patient's "prostate cancer" completely resolved after a parasite cleanse expelled numerous worms from his body. These connections, largely ignored by conventional medicine, provide powerful alternative treatment pathways using medications like ivermectin and fenbendazole that target both parasites and CFCs by blocking critical metabolic pathways.

Perhaps most valuable is Dr. Lodi's comprehensive healing framework: eliminating toxicity sources (including dental problems), cleansing through colonics and lymphatic therapies, restoring proper cellular nutrition, and addressing the often-overlooked mental/emotional component of healing. He explains how fear triggers hormonal cascades that can override even the best physical interventions – making mental "detoxification" as crucial as physical cleansing.

The livestream challenges standard practices like biopsies and surgeries that can spread CFCs and exacerbate conditions. Instead, it offers practical alternatives: specific fasting windows

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Chapters

• 1:35 Livestream Introduction and Group Overview
• 16:10 Parasites and Their Relationship to Health
• 31:17 Understanding Pancreatic CFCs and Surgery Options
• 40:38 Chronically Fermenting Cells Explained
• 53:06 Lymphomas and Alternative Treatment Approaches
• 1:02:49 Addressing Serious Health Conditions Naturally

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:48

All right, here we are Good, so we're live. Okay, I guess we're live, fantastic, yay. So, anyway, welcome to Sunday Night Live and Monday Morning Live here on planet Earth. And anybody know what's happening on planet Earth, let me know, because I have no idea, no idea, no idea. So, okay, good, anyway, anyway, let's get going.

Speaker 1: 1:12

So, um, as you all know that this, this is, uh, we live stream every sunday night in the us it's in the middle of the night, unfortunately, in europe, and um, but it's here in the over, on this side of the world, um, which is asia, eurasia, eurasia, including, uh, australia, and it's monday morning. So, as you know, we're on all the channels except for TikTok. And so I mean, we're on TikTok, but we can't livestream, all right. So, anyway, all of them are at drthomaslody, except for X and TikTok, which are at drthomaslody. All right, alice, good morning, wow, we got on, I can'tody. All right, alice, good morning. Wow, we got on. I can't believe it. I'm glad some people waited, but here we are. So, thank you all for hanging in there on my usual weekly demonstration of my absurd relationship with technology. Ah, okay, so let's start looking at questions. That'll help.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Well, by the way, the groups. I have three groups here. Right, we have the health and healing group, which talks about everything from fasting to proper food, when to go to sleep, all those, anything to do with being healthy, and how to restore it or how to maintain it if you have it already. And the second group is on parasites and the real, because parasites are way more of a problem than I ever imagined, even though you know through medical school, train and residency, and there was never even infectious disease in infectious disease departments. You know, unless you were in tropical medicine, you know doing a rotation there or working in there. Good morning, duane from Thailand. Yay, good place to be from be in. So even in infectious disease, parasites were never more than like an interesting thing that happens somewhere else. Well, they've become ubiquitous and everyone's got them. They're being pulled out of the sockets from extracted teeth. The problem with parasites is beyond belief, anyway.

Speaker 1: 3:24

So we have a parasite group, and then the third group is the CFC group, and then the third group is the CFC group and chronically fermenting cells. Cfcs are how we refer to. If you press F4 at all, you go into first person. I don't know what that means, anyway. So the word for people called cancer, which is a meaningless word, tells you nothing are chronically fermenting cells. Anyway, we have it. What do you call it? Okay, so we have that group. Now, if you have membership in the Parasite group, you've automatically got membership in the live stream, and if you have it in the CFC group, you automatically have membership in the other two.

Speaker 1: 4:00

And the reason that's significant is that we meet weekly on a Zoom, not like this, where we don't really interact in today, like today, what I'm going to do today is answer questions that have been sent in already, so that people that have, you know, questions that arise spontaneously, won't be able to get into those, because that's not the format. So, however, that's why we have the groups, and the groups really have replaced consultations, and the reason they've replaced consultations is that it was impossible to do all the consultations with people. It's just impossible. There's way too many people from all over. So there's a weekly Zoom conference where I'm on and we usually talk about something, whatever that issue is, with regard with that group, whether it's CFCs, parasites or health and healing and then we answer questions and I stay until the questions are answered. It could be four hours, five hours sometimes it is, but it gives us a chance to interact.

Speaker 1: 4:57

So when you ask a question, if I read a question here and I need clarification on a few things, I can't get it because we're not All right here. Joy, joy, that's beautiful, so let's get to the questions, because that's why we're here, okay. So the first question is from Becky and it has to do with pancreatic CFCs and she says I know this question is totally off the chart. I have a little Jack Russell Beagle mix. He may have CFCs in his pancreas. We need your help. If you can help, we'll do whatever it takes. Just tell us what to do. Please try helping us All right? Well, I'm I.

Speaker 1: 5:36

I have no idea how to, how to work with a dog or or or animals, but I do know this. I do know that all animals live by the same biology as we do, and that is in order to restore health and balance. We've got to supply all the biological needs. So that involves the proper food, et cetera. So I'm not a veterinarian and I can't. Unfortunately, If you've got pancreatic CFCs and you did need to get something like IPT for a while, I don't even know if there are veterinarians anywhere doing that, so I really don't know how to help you. I don't know how to give vitamin C IV to dogs or any of that. I don't know how to do that and I'm sure there are veterinarians out there. So, you know, if anybody out there knows a veterinarian that this woman could contact, that would help her, please, okay, because I just don't know how.

Speaker 1: 6:32

Hi there from, oh la paz, fantastic in singapore, um, fantastic, okay, all right. So, anyway, becky, I hope, I hope, I hope you can get some help. I understand, um, how you must feel, marina. Testicular cf. You guys still using that word. Why are you using astrological signs to refer to a condition that's happening in our bodies? Come on, dean, from Patia, all right. So, dean, anyway. So testicular, okay.

Speaker 1: 7:13

So would you recommend using a magnet pulser for pain relief? My husband, who has testicular CFCs, has been experiencing pain in his neck. There's some conflicting research on PMF out there. Thank you very much. All right, romina, marina, regarding, whenever you have pain anywhere, you've got to know. The first thing you have to find out is what's causing the pain so you can relieve it. Is the pain due to compression from a lymph node that has involvement? Is the lymph node? Does it have any malignant cells in it. Is that what's going on or is there something else going on? If you're talking about the pain in this neck, you know that could include some serious dental situation. So really to seek out relief from pain is important.

Speaker 1: 8:04

So now, regarding PEMF, I don't really look at that as a way to relieve pain, although there's a product called the Cloud, the K-L-O-U-D, which is probably the premier, most important and most advanced PEMF device out there, and if you look into the situation you'll see that it goes way beyond what other PEMF devices do. So it deals on very fundamental levels and it would help with pain. But again, like I said, if you've got pain somewhere, you've got to find out what is causing that pain. You don't want to relieve it, just relieve it, because pain, like itching, like coughing, any symptom which is and the way we define a symptom is a symptom is something you experience, whereas a sign you know they talk about signs and symptoms of a condition A sign would be something that would be observable by a third party so a doctor could observe it, your parents or your friends. They observe a lump, they observe a wound, so that's a sign, right, and a symptom is something you're experiencing, which is pain, fear, swelling, you know things that you're experiencing pressure, all right. So if you're getting a symptom, it's kind of your body's talking to you and it's letting you know that there's something going on, and so it's really very important to find out what is going on so that you can deal with it. So, just to so, yes, magnets and the PEMF can help with pain.

Speaker 1: 9:38

However, if we don't eliminate the reason why that pain is happening, then it's going to keep happening. Right, and this goes for everything. It's not just for that, this particular situation that we're talking about, not just for pain in some part of the body, this particular situation that we're talking about, not just for pain in some part of the body. So he, and so, marina, so I understand that your husband has testicular CFCs, so I don't know anything else. There's a lot of questions I would be asking you if you were on one of the groups. So anyway, unfortunately I wouldn't just jump into PEMF for pain. What I would do is the whole program that we always talk about, which is, you know, eliminating all the possible causes for this to have occurred in the first place the testicular CFCs, right, which involves you look at biological dentistry, cleansing, you know, lymphatic work, colonics what are these guys talking about? Come on, you guys? Okay, so, anyway.

Speaker 1: 10:37

So, again, any symptom is a sign that your body is going, is adapting to something. You've got to find out what that is and eliminate the body's need to adapt. All right, whatever that is, of course you've got pain. You've got to deal with it. So there are many ways of dealing with it, right, probably one of the most important, one of the most, let me put it this way Inflammation, chronic inflammation or acute inflammation.

Speaker 1: 11:03

Inflammation is usually involved in most pain, except for neuropathic pain, which is pain involving nerves. So, other than that, usually inflammation is a major part of it, and remember, inflammation along with, you know, swelling, redness and heat. You know pain and pain are the symptoms of inflammation. Okay, so, therefore, anti-inflammatories which bring down the inflammation would help. And what are good ones? Curcumin, boswellia, ginger. There's lots of botanicals. There's a product that I often use for people and it's called Bosmeric B-O-S-M-E-R-I-C. I have nothing to do with it. It's produced by a physician in New Mexico, dr Sunil Pai, but it's an amazing product and it combines all three of those, plus pepperine pepper, which improves absorption. Okay, so, that's all, it's a very good product, but you know. So we're talking about natural anti-inflammatories Because, remember, inflammation is involved in most pain, most pain. So if you can at least quell that, then its participation in the pain is going to be eliminated, all right. But again, you've got to find out what's going on. All right, please keep that in mind. That's like a central theme everywhere Now.

Speaker 1: 12:29

So, marina, it'd be great if you and your husband perhaps joined the health and healing group, I mean, I'm sorry, the CFC group. So here we have another one. This is Brianna, and her question is can I take fenbendazole and ivermectin at the same time? And the answer is sure, and yes, and it's a good idea. I don't know what your purpose is, but yes, often it's very important. For example, if you are aware that you have parasites, because it's obvious, you either find them in your stool or you have other obvious symptoms and you want to make sure that you don't just disturb these guys so that they migrate to other organs, you've got to give them.

Speaker 1: 13:15

What we usually do is you use three different anti-worms, anti-helminthics like ivermectin, fenbendazole and maybe niclosamide. So we might put all of those together, or prosaicuanto, depending on what we suspect is going on. The other one is CFCs. We know many of the relationships between parasites and CFCs and then we don't know a lot of the relationships between CFCs and parasites. And what I mean by that is if we look back to Dr Weber in Munich at the Max von Hoffenheimer Institute, if we look back at Royal Raymond Rife and even back into the early part of the 20th century, and there's been many, many, many people that have identified some sort of parasite that's essential to the development of CFCs, that's pretty interesting. But that part we don't know about. We don't know about those.

Speaker 1: 14:18

Reif called them the BX and BY, and I think the B was for bacillus. Bacillus usually refers to when we're talking about a microbiology. Bacillus is usually like a round organism, as opposed to E coli, which is not round but it's sort of a steroid. So anyway, and you know that's what he did, he got the frequency for that. The BX and the BY sent that in and killed the organism and the CFCs went away. So we don't really know the extent to which parasites and CFCs are related. But it's very important. So can you take fenbendazole and ivermectin Absolutely, or mebendazole or albendazole, and you can take the other ones. You can take a niclosamide or proziquantel, which would give you a third anti-helmetic, and then you'd want to get also an antiprotosol like nitazoxanide, which is also called Alinea, or even tinidazole. So that's, brianna.

Speaker 1: 15:24

Now from Eric, what are your thoughts on pancreatic CFC tumors and surgery to remove the CFCs? Which has not spread, which has had five rounds of chemotherapy, is surgery the only option? The CFC markers are almost negligible. Oncologists states that this is not uncommon with the type of CFC. They're pushing for surgery. However, I'm looking for reliable alternatives, currently looking at your protocols for parasites. I would like your insights. Many things, okay, well, okay.

Speaker 1: 15:55

So, eric, pancreatic CFCs that have not gone anywhere. They're still only in the pancreas. So you know, you know, I again, this is why we need the group. So I could ask you a question, because I would think if it hasn't gone or you haven't been able to determine that it's gone anywhere, because that's the problem with pancreatic CFCs, by the time you find them, they're already usually spread.

Speaker 1: 16:22

But so if it's in the head of the pancreas, which is right up to and touching the small intestines, the duodenum, where the duct from the pancreas goes right through into the duodenum, so if it's the head of the pancreas. It's going to and there's any growth of the tumor at all, it's going to affect the bile ducts. Biliary People will get very jaundiced, turn yellow and there's a loss of that. It's a very, very, it's a very, very difficult thing to go through. So what usually happens in a situation like that is a gastroenterologist will put in a stent, so that is the. They put in something into the, the bile duct that's being blocked because of the, the tumor in the pink at the head of the pancreas, and they relieve that pressure, restore the flow. The person is no longer yellow and you can commence with working on that.

Speaker 1: 17:18

If it's in the middle or the tail of the pancreas, it could have other organs like the spleen, the intestines. It's right there in the middle of everything. I mean that's not. Probably that is the reason why pancreatic CFCs are so difficult to deal with and why they have such a bad reputation because of their location. They're right in the middle and close to everything. So you can always get I get distracted by reading your guys' comments.

Speaker 1: 17:44

I got one for you parasite related or not, it could be okay Laparoscopic biopsy. Where's the proof? I'm not sure what you guys are doing. Are we like oh my God, okay, you guys listen, we need you got to join these groups so that we can have conversations. I can't have a conversation with you right now, all right, please understand that. I hope you're listening, because I don't think anybody listening. I just see people writing questions and talking to each other about All right.

Speaker 1: 18:09

So with pancreatic, again, like all CFCs, remember the difference between having ovarian, pancreatic, colon, breast lymphoma. The difference between all of those is the location. Other than that, it's the same biological process going on right. It's called the Warburg effect, which is also called aerobic respiration. Aerobic respiration, which is, um, I mean aerobic glycolysis, which is which means that in the presence of oxygen it's fermenting, because normally the cell has a cell that does have mitochondria, that is a more developed type cell. If it's got oxygen it will make energy through the mitochondria and will not be fermenting. So if a cell that has structures it's a higher cell, like the ones we have in our body is fermenting in the presence of oxygen, that, by definition, is what they call the astrological sign and we call chronically fermenting cells.

Speaker 1: 19:08

The difference in all of these and in the different locations is the location right, so the fact that the pancreas is located right between many structures. On the tail is the spleen and part of the adrenal gland, and then you've got over here, you've got the small intestines, and then on the head you have the duodenum and the liver and the gallbladder and so, and then on the top end of the pancreas you've got the stomach, so you've got it's right in the middle of all those things. So that's why it can cause many problems. And you know, whereas a tumor that was on the breast could actually go two or three centimeters and still be a stage two and not affecting any of the other organs or functioning of the body, but pancreatic it's not. So If it's occurring in the brain, it can't be too much growth because you'll have problems. So anyway, that is what's going on with pancreatic. So what do you need to do, eric, is, if it's someone that you know is, immediately find a, and that's what you're asking me for. Now they're pushing for surgery. So the surgery that's usually done in pancreatic CFCs is called the Whipple procedure, and that's more for you know, more for the head.

Speaker 1: 20:58

If it's in the head of the pancreas, because it's actually causing problems, it's blocking the person's turning yellow, it's blocking their liver and bile system ability to function and so what they do is they actually disconnect the stomach from the duodenum where it flows into. Normally the duodenum is the first part of the small intestines. So you chew the food, you swallow it, it goes down your esophagus into your stomach. There's some processing going on there and then it leaves the stomach and goes into the duodenum where it's going to get the help by the liver, by the gallbladder and the um. On one upper side and lower side of the um it's going to get helped by the pancreatic enzymes for digestion. Let's turn off this for a second. So in the Whipple they take out, they disconnect the stomach from the duodenum and they reconnect over. So they bypass the whole duodenum and usually connect into the ilium or the jejunum which are the lower parts of the small intestines. That's a Whipple procedure.

Speaker 1: 22:05

So the problem with the surgery there's many, many problems. Any kind of surgery, we know, is going to increase the spread of the CFCs. It just does that. There's a lot of literature there, you know, and I could quote that. I could show it to you if we were on a group. What I would do right now is be able to share on Zoom and I could show you some studies. That'd be great for you to see that, right, but in this format we can't. But anyway, the surgery will do that number one. Number two the surgery will do that. Number one. Number two the surgery is trauma, it's surgical trauma and the body then is dealing with trauma of healing and all that, rather than dealing with CFCs. So what we look at it is unless the tumor is causing a problem, that's going to a life-threatening problem, it's threatening your ability to breathe, your ability to eat, the bowel movements or anything like that, under those circumstances you have to remove it. However, if it's not, then removing it won't really help and will probably make it worse. But now, if we're looking at the WIPipple procedure, so what you are left with is a person who no longer has use of their duodenum, which is so essential in appropriate, healthy digestion.

Speaker 1: 23:29

Digestion because it's in the duodenum. That's the first part of the intestines where the food comes out of the stomach. Okay, that's where all the enzymes are used lipase, amylase, the proteases and all that to to help digest the food. That's where all the enzymes are used lipase, amylase, the proteases and all that to to help digest the food. That's where fat is being absorbed If there's any fat in the meal anywhere from an avocado to whatever fat you're eating and so that means you're getting. You're getting. You're getting the access to the bile you know the gallbladder and the bile and also the pancreas, like that. So all the food is actually processed down to and broken down to, simple molecules that can now be absorbed, and most of them are absorbed in the ileum and the jejunum, so you bypass it, you've gone from the stomach, which you've disconnected from the duodenum, and you've bypassed it, and you're now in the ileum or the jejunum.

Speaker 1: 24:17

You've lost that part of digestion, so you're going to have to make sure that the food you're eating is going to be suitable for absorption. So it becomes a very complex situation. So to avoid surgery is very important, so you'll need some help. Eric, I don't know where you're located and unfortunately you have to be careful with even alternative doctors, because a lot of them are not, are just not well trained. So again, I don't know where you are, eric, but the first thing you've got to do, or the person you know that has this condition, is get to a real certified a I, a, o, m, t, um, certified dentist, biological, get evaluated and make sure that you've eliminated all the potential dental causes of CFCs, and then you need to do cleanses and there's all. There's a whole. There's a group of protocols that we would use and recommend, but it's basically the foundation of all of it is this what are CFCs?

Speaker 1: 25:18

These are cells that have lost four 100,000 reasons, have lost functional use of about 60% of their mitochondria, which are the little organelles inside of the cells that make energy. They take six oxygen molecules and one glucose and they make 36 ATPs, and you've already got two made in the cytoplasm, so you wind up with 38 ATPs, all right, so it's a very efficient mechanism, right? One glucose will give you 38 energy molecules packages. So when those, when 60 of the mitochondria are lost, the cell has, in order to stay alive, to meet its energy requirements, it's got to ferment. That is the only other option. There's no other way for a cell to make energy. So in order to ferment and be successful at it, it has to turn, silence this gene and that gene and wake up this gene and all that. So it changes. It's called genetic expression. It's all different parts of the genes that are being utilized by this cell, and that's normal right by this cell, and that's normal, right.

Speaker 1: 26:30

We all know that liver cell is not going to be doing the same things that the kidneys are doing. So all of the kidney and and nervous tissue in the brain and all those aspects of the dna are silenced in a liver cell, because it's just. All that's going to be turned on is the ability to do what livers do. I mean, this is obvious, all right. So you've got to um, you know, you know, do this cleanse, which involves colon hydrotherapy, lymphatics, uh, many, many things. And you've got to also be able to um, you know, work with the mind, because the mind, remember, can override all the things that you're doing that promote health.

Speaker 1: 27:11

All those things can be completely turned off and eliminated by fear. All right, fear is the way this whole system works, the Rockefeller system that we were born into. It works with fear, and it's the standard of scare, and they scare you into submission, they scare you into doing things okay now, so that the thing that you want to do is just not listen to them and not not just be scared because they use the word cancer, which means nothing. It means nothing. There's no definition of it other than what they've given it, they've made it up, there's. No, it has no other meaning other than an astrological sign, so it doesn't help us at all, but the chronically understanding that these chronically fermenting cells, and that they happen because of an accumulated toxicity that has resulted in loss of 60 percent of mitochondria wow, well, that gives us a lot of very relevant information. Now, we know, we know let's get rid of all of, eliminate all the possible causes of toxicity, right, and if we can do that, then we can prevent it from continuing to happen to continuing to grow right, so essential in the whole healing pathway.

Speaker 1: 28:21

The second part of the process would be using botanical, non-toxic substances, including ozone and peroxide, but curcumin, vitamin C, quercetin there's lots of intravenous therapies that, specifically will eliminate the current CFCs you have but will not harm the healthy cells that you have, which is very important. Cfcs you have, but will not harm the healthy cells that you have, which is very important, whereas chemo and radiation and the other standard therapies don't distinguish between healthy cells and CFCs and you wind up in trouble. All right, so that's that. And then the third thing you need to do is to get the immune system open up. All right. So, and we can walk you through, we can help you with a guide you, because that's what we do, but it'd be really helpful if you got into groups, because I can't do that here. But number one, wherever you are, whatever's going on, whatever they've told you, you've got to forget that Now in your situation where you said that the tumor markers are negligible at this point. So you know, I would want to know other things. I'd want to know what the ferritin to iron ratio is and what the actual numbers are for the ferritin and iron and the LDH thymidine kinase. There's a lot of other indicators other than biomarkers, other than what we call tumor markers, that can help us understand how the person is doing and dealing with the situation. So you're going to need a lot of guidance, eric, and I don't know where you are. Just join the group so that we can talk further, because it's important you know. All right.

Speaker 1: 30:04

So now this is Denise, from Palm Springs. It's regarding lymphomas. So it says that for someone with lymphoma wanting to cleanse the colon with colonic, will it be okay if the swollen lymph nodes are in the pelvis area? Yes, absolutely, regardless of where they are. So you've got swollen lymph nodes in the pelvis area? Yes, absolutely, regardless of where they are. So you've got swollen lymph nodes in the pelvis area and you're going to need to, and you still want to, do colonics, because actually, where is it? So, understand this.

Speaker 1: 30:37

The reason to do a colonic right is to eliminate the toxins in the colon Right. That's the obvious reason you're doing it Right. That's obvious Reason you're doing it. But which is is by eliminating toxins that are in the colon, you're eliminating a big sewage splash that occurs every four minutes from the colon to the liver Right, which is going to really impair the liver's ability to function. So there's a lot of there's multiple reasons for cleaning out the colon of the function. So there's a lot of, there's multiple reasons for cleaning out the colon. And since that's essential to healing, then the answer is obviously yes, because the lymph nodes are involved as part of normal physiology, and normal physiology right, because 10% of all the waste products and other products that occur in the cells that are excreted, 10% of them go through the lymphatics, 90% go through the veins back to the heart and get circulated, but 10% are lymphatics, and you know. So it's very important that we keep the lymphatic drainage system working and all that.

Speaker 1: 31:39

So the first part of healing is to cleanse. All right, and it's something that you need to be doing all throughout the process because we need to always be cleaning. Just like you have to make your bed every day, you've got to wash the dishes. You've got to do these things because just daily use is. If you didn't do that, if you didn't make your bed, you know you didn't do the dishes, you didn't empty the trash within a week or so, you'd be in trouble, right. So the answer, denise, is absolutely, because it's going to help with the entire process of healing and also if the colon is in any way, because if the person happens to be very constipated, it could actually be blocking and causing problems to the lymph nodes. So, anyway, the answer is yes, you can absolutely do that. Here's, denise, again.

Speaker 1: 32:31

My mother was recently diagnosed with lymphoma stage 2. Her doctor requires a biopsy to determine the CFC type. No treatment plan has been offered until biopsy. We have major concerns with the biopsy due to potential spread. Is a biopsy necessary? What are alternatives? Well, denise, according to me, they're not necessary. According to the world of oncology, they are necessary. And the reason they claim that they're necessary is that? Because unless they get a biopsy and they send it to the pathologist, who then looks at it with a microscope and determines and describes the microscopic anatomy which really just tells you the origin of the tumors, where they started, the claim is that that's going to give them direction on treatment, and that's literally not true, because chemotherapy and radiation are going to be used on everybody. They're standard for everybody. So which chemotherapies? Well, they're going to look at the ones that have gotten the latest FDA approval and some combination of that. So keep in mind that.

Speaker 1: 33:39

Excuse me, let me say it this way when Dr Donato Perez Garcia, I, the physician, the Mexican physician who figured out IPT and actually invented it when he first was dealing with a person with CFCs, back in those days they didn't have chemo and so the only poisons that he had access to were arsenic and mercury. So using the insulin in the way it's used, you wind up targeting CFCs because they have more insulin receptors. And he didn't use chemo, he used whatever they had available. It might have been mercury and arsenic, like he did with tertiary syphilis, but anyway, that woman went on to visit Dr Donato Perez-Garcia's grandson, who was also a physician, like 40, 50 years later and with other complaints, all right. So the reason they're saying that all these drugs are specifically for this type of CFC? You already know there's no type of CFC, there's only CFCs, and the only difference between them all is location. So that whole idea of type is wrong. All right, but assuming that's correct, then they're saying that this group of, or combination of, chemotherapies would be good for this type.

Speaker 1: 34:53

Once you start going down that path, it's not a true path anyway, because the reason that that would be an issue there is cells can become resistant, and what it means that they become resistant is not that they can now the poisons are no longer poisons to them it just means that they've they've developed the ability to eliminate the toxic, this toxic treatment, quicker than you can get it in, and so that it's called the resistant right. So one of the beautiful things about ipt is you're using the chemo is going in through the insulin door, one of the doorways that insulin opens up, rather than having to go through the normal processes. So the cell and the cell cannot eliminate the insulin because of the relationship it has with insulin, because that's how it lives, right, that's how it gets its nourishment, so it can't eliminate its insulin receptors and all that. So that's the beauty, one of the beauties of IPT is that you'll be able to get into and target directly the CFCs and not hit all the other organs.

Speaker 1: 35:58

So, with regards to lymphomas, as you probably know, they divide them into two groups, which is kind of silly Hodgkin's and non-Hodgkin's, because Hodgkin's is one particular histological type which is basically does the lymphoma have what's called the Reed-Sternberg cell or not? That's all. And then all of the non-Hodgkin's lymphomas. There's a lot of them, but that's one category non-Hodgkin's lymphoma or Hodgkin's lymphoma and so they have differing regimens of chemotherapy for those different lymphomas, just like they do have multiple different chemotherapeutic protocols, regimens for breasts, ovaries, colon, and what the oncologists typically do is they'll pick a combination that they usually they've had, I guess, some success with or familiarity with, or they're just trying to please a drug rep. They'll use that and if it fails, then they'll go to one of the other protocols that have been established by the American Society of Clinical Oncology or actually start looking at different types of other kinds of therapies. And the only other therapies that are really available in oncology are the monoclonal antibodies and what they call immune therapies which are really not immune therapies. It's just blocking a certain part of the immune system.

Speaker 1: 37:29

But anyway, doing the biopsy is not essential and potentially dangerous, and I don't usually I don't require biopsies oh, denise again. Well, denise, I hope you got the message that I would. Unless she's in a situation where she's impending blockage of her intestines or something serious like that, I wouldn't get the biopsy because of potential spread. This is Timothy and I was recently told that I have a small milky substance on my larynx and that the doctor says that it may be a precancerous.

Speaker 1: 38:07

I've been a lead singer in a rock and roll band for over 40 years and I'd like to get my singing voice back, so I'm hoping I can do this with ivermectin and I guess that's fenbendazole Is all. My singing voice back, so I'm hoping that I can get this with ivermectin and bend is all. I've seen him way back, so I'm hoping that I can get this with ivermectin and bend is all. And is there anything else that I need to be taking, and how much and often? Okay, listen, timothy.

Speaker 1: 38:36

So, timothy, yes, there are, and you might have heard me a moment ago speaking about the need for the biological dentistry to find out, because there is a direct relationship between teeth and organs in our body and what happens to those organs a direct, specific relationship. And so you've got to have a biological dentist, You've got to do cleansing, which involves juice cleansing and or fasting and many, many, many things, and to go over all of it at this point would uh, you know we've done it many, many times. So what I'd recommend is going to our websites and we do discuss the basic, overall, fundamental plan, but I would absolutely at this point join our, our cfc group so that we can have basically a consultation right weekly, not just once, right, okay? So so, timothy, it sounds like you probably have not been visiting us here on these live streams very often uh, you're probably new to it, but there's a lot of that you can be doing and I'm glad you're here and let's get started on it.

Speaker 1: 39:43

But it always starts with a cleanse. You've got to clean out the toxins before you get started with any kind of what we call treatments. Okay, now this is Jada and she's saying ALS is unknown. Als is unknown, called parasite's cause, possibly, maybe in the teeth, over 30 years of parasitism, all right, so I guess I guess als you're talking about blue garrix right, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, I'm assuming. Assuming that's what you're talking about. Um, okay, and you're thinking of doing a parasite cleanse to help with that. Well, parasite cleanses are going to help almost, you know, with not almost every type of, with every CFC, regardless of location, because part of cleansing and getting rid of toxins is to eliminate parasites which can either directly or indirectly contribute to the CFC not only emerging in the first place, but continuing to spread and grow. So the answer is yes, we do have experience in these and, as at an oasis of healing in arizona, which is where our center is, uh, we'd be very happy to help you, work with you on this. Um, all right.

Speaker 1: 40:57

So now als is considered a neurodegenerative condition. Okay, neuro meaning nerve, degenerative meaning wasting away condition. And there are other ones like alzheimer's, what we used to call mad cow they and basically there's an overall senility, a generalized senility. So, and then there's ms. I'm sure you've heard of ms.

Speaker 1: 41:23

Now, often what you'll find is that the neurologist will disagree. One will say you have ALS, or another one will say you have MS, or another one will say you have Parkinson's. Really, why would there be a confusion there about what to call it, and that's because the whole idea of diagnosing, in other words, that's putting a name on a situation. What are we putting a name on? We're putting a name on an adaptive process by the body to a situation that's not meeting the person's biological needs, and so it's adapting, and this may be a very convoluted, long set of adaptations, which is where you wind up with when you eventually get CFCs. It's not the first adaptive process that goes on along that pathway.

Speaker 1: 42:13

So now ALS is thought of as an inherited condition and you know, and if you've got the genes and you're going to get it, that's it Right. And it was also thought of as a condition that is basically untreatable. Well, we found out that neither of those are true anymore. What's being called ALS in other words, the criteria to name these, calling it ALS and all that and MS, et cetera is changing. These are all changing.

Speaker 1: 42:41

So what I'd like you to realize is there's no such thing as ALS or MS or any of that stuff. These, what I'd like you to realize is there's no such thing as ALS or MS or any of that stuff. These are names. They put on different processes that are going on, all right. So what's got, and all these processes are related to toxicities, varying types of toxicities, and that's just simply what it is. So what do we have to do? We've got to start out by eliminating toxins. So whether or not you're talking about a neurodegenerative condition or you're talking about CFCs, it doesn't matter, you've got to always start with getting rid of the toxins so that you can begin for the healing. The healing needs to take place right, and healing is restoration of balance, of functional balance, called homeostasis. One second, please Excuse me. There we are one, two, three. So ALS, ms, other neurodegenerative conditions are variable. There's no it. I think.

Speaker 1: 44:09

One example that will help you understand that is when I was practicing in New York. There was a woman who was a CPA who came in and she had had a flu shot the year prior and right after the flu shot, like within 24 hours, she developed flu. She was talking like that. It lasted about three months and gradually got better. For some reason, the following year she got the flu shot again and this time it wasn't going away. So she came to our center. Um and um, she had been to several. This is new york. She had been to several of the top leading hospitals that are famous in new york, um, and got different diagnosis. Some people were saying she had als, some people were saying she had ms.

Speaker 1: 44:59

So my point is this is that these are not things that exist. They, they label it whatever it it is. Whatever the impairment that you've developed, they try to they. If we're labeling it as something and then they call it, it becomes this thing, whatever it is, whether it's CFCs, diabetes, neurodegenerative condition, heart condition, whatever they make it a thing that they can now have a treatment program for. And this situation clearly shows that that's not what happened. You know, I had another fellow in New York around the same who had had a flu shot and was unable to stop moving until he went to sleep. And I mean, like it was, I could imagine what he was going through from having had a flu shot.

Speaker 1: 45:52

So what are you going to say about flu shots? Right, and if they work, why do you have to get a new one every year? Okay, that is an obvious rhetorical question. And here we go, we, we're gonna clean the glasses. So, okay now. So jade, uh, what um parasites could are most likely in your, your situation? Just, they are in almost everybody. Okay, and to what degree and all that we it's not always clear, but your detoxification process, that you need to do for sure to begin, is going to be a parasite cleanse, is going to involve a parasite cleanse. So, yes, remember, there's never like one thing that caused what caused my blah blah blah caused what caused my blah blah. Well, a multitude of things in confluence caused it.

Speaker 1: 46:55

Now this is from min and the topic is prostate cfcs. Please, you guys use the word cfcs, which anti-parasite medication would help shrink and enlarge prostate. I would encourage you to use join either the CFC group or the prostate group or the parasite group. We had a woman who was in the group, our group, early on. Now anyway, she in one of our groups. She showed us all the PowerPoint of what she did with her father who had an enlarged prostate that they were calling prostate CFCs and she started him on ivermectin, benben thezol I can't remember her specific regimen, but small worms started coming out and large ones and she showed us pictures in her PowerPoint and actual video clips in the bathtub where they were and a PowerPoint and actual video clips in the bathtub where there was these incredibly long I'd say 10 centimeter, you know worms and she kept. I can't remember if she rotated them or not, the antiparasitics, but the prostate went back to normal and all these worms came out.

Speaker 1: 48:07

So whoa, can they be involved? Yes, and the anti-parasitics. You know you don't think of them to shrink the prostate. You have to realize what they're doing. Okay, remember most of these anti-parasitic medications. The reason they work with cfc's is they turn off certain pathways that parasites need to survive and that also cfcs need to survive. So when you're getting an antiparasitic can actually help, can stop cfcs. That's why they're being they're called repurposed drugs right, because the original purpose was for parasites. Now they're finding a new purpose.

Speaker 1: 48:41

But ivermectin, fenbendazole for sure, and um at least, and then maybe niclosamide would be three to start with. And you'd want an antiprotozoal like, not nitrous oxide, but for a large prostate. There's lots of other things that don't contribute to that. One is um. Eating animal, the dead animals, greatly contributes to that. You've got to check the, the biological dentistry, and the relationship of the mouth, oral health, to the development of a large prostate or CFCs. And then with prostate, in particular with prostate, there is a. One of the main reasons why a prostate starts to get enlarged as men get older is that they have less and less testosterone. So they lose both their libido and their sexual ability function and therefore they don't have sex and they don't have ejaculations. And what has been found is that 21 ejaculations per month is like. You must have that at least that to keep your prostate well-drained, otherwise it will get congested. And that's just what has been found in the studies. It's not my idea.

Speaker 1: 49:53

Now, this is from Marilyn and she says my dear friend has been diagnosed with a tortuous aorta. They said it's twisted and he needs a stent to allow the smooth flow of blood. He also has an abdominal aneurysm. Are stents the only option?

Speaker 1: 50:17

Well, marilyn, a tortuous aorta means that what the aorta is is that it's the main vessel that the heart pumps the blood into to begin the flow around the system, the body. So, just as a quick tutorial on how the circulatory system works all the organs all over the body. The blood flows into them through the arteries and then little arteries, arterioles and capillaries, and they're drained through the veins, 90% of them in 10% through the lymphatics. So the veins come back to the right side of the heart, which then pumps the blood into the lungs, where it eliminates the carbon dioxide and brings in the oxygen. Then that goes back to the left side of the heart, which then pumps it through the aorta. Okay, so the aorta is the main large artery that comes out of the heart, which then pumps it through the aorta. Okay, so the aorta is the main large artery that comes out of the heart and off of it are branches of all the other arteries.

Speaker 1: 51:15

So to have a tortuous one, it means that it doesn't come off. Normally the aorta comes off. If you have the heart here, then the aorta comes off this way and then down. So it may be that it twists around. Anyway, it's going to impede, obviously, the more turns and twists and convolutions it has. It's going to decrease the blood flow and the efficiency of circulation and, yeah, there really is no other way but to put a stent in to keep open. So if it's tortuous such that it's bending in on itself and it's blocking blood flow, then you're going to need a stent. And a stent basically is I think you all may know what it is, but it goes, it'll go inside of the vein or whatever um, and it expands outward, like that to keep it open so that you can maintain blood flow.

Speaker 1: 52:10

And he's also got an abdominal aneurysm. So what that means is that you after the tortuous part of the aorta where it's taking off from the heart and it goes down to into the deeper, into the abdomen, chest and then abdomen, uh you know goes straight down and then has branches off to different parts of the body. So if there's an aneurysm there, that means that the vessel wall has become thin and it's much like if you've ever seen like a tire that's lost its. It's kind of worn out in one area where the rubber is worn out, and then you get like a's. You get a bulging out of the, the tube that's in the tire, and so it's the thinning of the wall is what an aneurysm is. You get that aneurysm. You can get bulging out from the other layers of the tissues and other than the top layer on the aorta in, in this case, or any vessel, and those can break, burst open and the blood can be spilled and personally can hemorrhage. So they're very serious.

Speaker 1: 53:15

But the fact that there's a tortuous aorta and aneurysms tells us for sure that he's not getting enough selenium, because selenium is usually related to aneurysms, that he's not getting enough selenium because selenium is usually related to aneurysms, and remember four brazil nuts is going to give you 200 micro, 200 micrograms selenium and it's good to get about four to six hundred micrograms a day. So that's one thing you can think of. Other than that, in this case stent sounds like it's the way to go with the aneurysm. Sometimes what they'll do and I don't know if they've offered this to you that they'll go in and kind of just like they patch a tire, they patch over the aneurysm so it's not bulging out and there's no chance for it to rupture. So they do those things. I'm not sure what your situation particularly is, but that would be the other thing for that, for the aneurysm part, but for the tortuous aorta you're definitely going to need a stent. So this is Philip and the question is hello, I had lymphoma of the mesentery successfully treated with RCHOP, which is a chemotherapeutic regimen, about four years ago.

Speaker 1: 54:20

So we were talking before about the Hodgkins and non-Hodgkins. So the non-Hodgkins they usually use this particular protocol that he wrote there called ARCHA, and those are just names of the first letters of, excuse me, the different chemotherapies involved. And recently he goes on to say recently I had most of a sizable tumor in part of my small intestine surgically removed. Pathology determined that the tumor was benign. So the question while fenbendazole is effective on CFC cells, will it work on abdominal benign cells? I still have 20% of my tumor aside because it's inoperable due to intermingling with blood vessels.

Speaker 1: 55:06

Question number two is is fenbendazole used as a preventative measure against CFCs? All right, so the first question was we know that fenbendazole works with CFCs. Will it work on a benign growth? And the answer is whether or not it will. Specifically, it doesn't shrink a tumor. What it does is it turns off certain pathways that tumors need, metabolic pathways that they need to survive. So if you've got a benign tumor, then you're not going to have the same pathways that are turned on that you would in a malignant tumor, because it can be a benign and malignant tumor. So again, so even if it's a malignant tumor, like Joe Tippins, it wasn't that the fenbendazole had any direct effect on shrinking a tumor. What it did was it worked by blocking certain specific enzymatic pathways that the cell needs for survival and to whatever extent this benign situation you have going on has those and other pathways that might be in use. Yeah, that'll help, of course, but we don't know exactly. But since you probably need to do a parasite cleanse anyway, like we all do. It's definitely something that I would recommend, and so the second part of the question is that is fenbendazole used as a preventative measure against CFCs? Well, no, it's generally not used like that, because generally it's not used. It's used usually either for a as part of a detail of a parasite cleanse or if it's used for CFCs, as we were saying. So I would, I would, I would absolutely continue with the Fembenzo. I would make sure I'm getting some ivermectin and probably like, close in mind and regardless of what name. If they're having a hard time putting a name on it, that's okay, but we do know that they considered it a non-Hodgkin's because of the RCHOP treatment.

Speaker 1: 57:17

So this is Dina, and she says currently experiencing fungating ulcerated tumor to left breast that bleeds, occasionally Diagnosed in 2020. Okay, so, diagnosed in 2020, no conventional treatment done. The tumor seems to be growing more rapidly than normal in the last year due to extreme emotional and physical stress. The tumor is twice the size of the breast. The biopsy is what's causing fungation. Regret doing breast and lymph node biopsies. Axillary biopsies has caused nerve damage and very sick and lack of mobility.

Speaker 1: 57:59

Would you recommend doing a bultus, or naturally, or to naturally shrink the tumor. All right, so you've got a fungating tumor going on in the tumor. All right, so you've got a fungating tumor going on in the breast Again. I hope, dina, that you've gone to a biological dentist, a real one, because it sometimes can stop if you're done from that. Right Now you say it's been growing due to emotional and physical stress. So sure, we know that stress will do that, especially emotional stress, which will turn on the adrenal glands and they're going to pump the body full of cortisol and adrenaline. It changes the autonomic nervous system. In fact, all the changes that occur as a result of stress prevent healing. So yeah, that's got to be dealt with. So you know, the answer to one of your partial answers to your question is you know, like you know. So your question in the end was would I recommend doing a poultice or naturally shrinking it? So well, I would, before we even think about that, I would get rid of it, eliminate all biological dental potential.

Speaker 1: 59:08

Essential thing to do You've got to do it. We've got to do juice cleanse for at least three, four, five, six weeks, colon hydrotherapy, all those things to detoxify the body and then to detoxify the mind, we have to learn to shut up for a while, to stop thinking, and that's difficult to do. Right, it's called meditation, because thinking, in the first place, is not a voluntary process. You don't decide to think, it happens to you. A very important aspect of cleansing the body is also cleansing the mind, and the way you cleanse the mind is that you eliminate certain words and you use other words. All right, so you've gotten rid of the toxic words. So it's a.

Speaker 1: 59:47

It's a psycho, spiritual, familial, uh, therapy, basically working with linguistics. So we don't use those words like astrological signs. There's many things, that words that we're careful about using. So any word that's going to support the whole concept of diagnosis like look, we're looking for the histological type or whatever, whatever they're saying is uh, yeah, um, you have to eliminate from your mind. Because the problem is, if you buy, if you accept that, if you're going to call it that word, then remember there's no definition of that word, really what. That's why we call it cfc.

Speaker 1: 1:00:26

It's chronically prolific cells. But since there's no definition of that word, really that's why we call it CFCs chronically proliferating cells. But since there's no definition of that word, we really don't know what it is. So if you ask somebody, you're going to ask five different oncologists and probably get a different, a slightly different answer on what it is. It depends on. You know many things, but there's no definition of it. But there's no definition of it. What they say is that these are rapidly proliferating cells that are immortal, meaning that their telomeres don't shrink, so they don't stop dividing. But again, it's a description of partly of what's going on, but it's not telling you anything, whereas the concept of chronically prolifering cells is exactly what defines it.

Speaker 1: 1:01:10

So it's the, it's the cellular response to a situation where it's not meeting its biological needs, right, so that's really telling you what it is. So now you really know. What you got to do is just eliminate the reason why the cell is responding that way. It's responding that way because it's not, it's it's had, it's been toxic, intoxicated with the world of toxins we live in, um and there hasn't been adequate nutrition movement.

Speaker 1: 1:01:36

There's a variety of things that go into a healthy lifestyle that have not been happening, which is why it is developed. Hormones, especially the breast, needs to be balanced, not blocked. Balanced because remember when, if you're get, you have, if you have a hormonally related cfc because it's in the prostate, it's in the uterus, ovaries or breast then hormonal re-establishing, hormonal balance is absolutely essential. It's essential for everyone anyway, but even more specifically here. So that's a major part of it too. So, in addition to cleansing and changing diet and going to sleep early and eating healthy and meditation, in addition to all that and remember that involves it's everything from the time you go to bed, which should be no later than 9 pm, you should stop eating five hours before you go to sleep, which means your last meal would end at 4 pm if you're going to bed at 9. And since you want 18 hours between your last meal of one day and your first meal of the next day, for many important reasons, that means you could eat again at 10 am. So you stop eating at 4 pm and eat at 10,. So from 10 to 4 every day. That's a lot of food. So you definitely won't be hungry in the real sense of the word hunger. So, dina, I would really encourage you to join our group too, clc group.

Speaker 1: 1:02:57

So this is Janie. She says do you have 24-7 service? We prescribe medications, all right. Well, in the United States the center is called the Oasis of Healing in Arizona. It's been there about 20 years now. We're not 24-7. We actually close in the early evening, 5, 6. And if you were a patient there, they would prescribe the medicines that you need, which would include what we're talking about here. And well, I'm not even sure, because you don't refer to it in any way. You just say do you have 24-hour service and will you prescribe medication? So no, it's not 24-7, but you know, if you were, for example, to call tonight at 6 or 7 pm and there was no one there, you would get your call back the next day or there's. You know, on the website at oasisofhealingcom you can find, you know, other ways of contacting us. So 24 hours a day and we don't have 24 hours a day, but we do prescribe medications, and with everybody. Part of that is but we do prescribe medications, and with everybody. It's part of that is the antiparasitic medications. That's an advertisement Want to get more clients and customers.

Speaker 1: 1:04:15

Wow, most of these questions are not about CFCs, most are about parasites. Isn't that amazing? So this is Diana and she's saying hi, dr Lodi. I was a patient at an oasis of healing in Arizona last year for 10 weeks and, thanks to God's grace and your amazing caregiving there. I'm in remission from my brain tumor. I've been on the anti-parasitic and anti fungal protocol since leaving and would like to know how long I should continue these plants. I'm taking many, many different supplements throughout the day, but I'm very interested in getting your take what. These are hard to read, so you wonder if you're taking too many medications. You're also continuing with treatments like hyperbaric oxygen therapy, high dose vitamin c ivs, ala, glutathione ivs, all right. So now I know there's a follow-up program. Are you getting a chance to follow up with the doctors now that you've left? Because that does. That's part of our program to help you with that. But if so, I don't know the condition here.

Speaker 1: 1:05:33

Diana of uh regarding your tumor, your brain tumor, the brain tumor, you know, I'm assuming it's a you know okay, so I just don't have enough. So you were at Oasis, had you had surgery, had you had radiation? And what was left when you left Oasis? What was left in your head? Are you taking medications like dexamethasone to keep it shrunk down from the edema forming and causing problems? Problems, and you're taking lots of supplements, right, and you want to know basically is can you cut out some of them? The answer is um, most likely you could, but I don't know your situation. So my advice would be to call over and ask to speak to either dr k or dr bardwell and find out. So, but you're continuing.

Speaker 1: 1:06:24

Hyperbaric oxygen and high-dose vitamin C that's fantastic and ALA, et cetera. So I'm assuming you don't live in Arizona, or maybe you do and you are still seeing them. I just don't know. So I don't have enough information, diana, to let you know. Most likely you can reduce some supplements, but we would need to talk. So, diana, join the group, the CFC group, and we can have the ongoing um consultations, basically.

Speaker 1: 1:06:52

But other than that I mean, I don't even know the specifics to answer specifically. Right, what happened here? Wait, did I lose connection here? Oh, it seems good. Okay, I don't know why I said that this is from janie. I have a bad infestation with pork worm with large lesions on my face. My health is decreasing fast and can't find help. Is this something your group can help me with? I'm running out of time. Yes, it's spreading so fast, that doesn't sound like tapeworm. Yes, it's spreading so fast, that doesn't sound like tapeworm. So, yes, janie, join the parasite group today and let's get into this, because that does not sound like parasites. You say it's spreading fast on your face and you know, poor tapeworm doesn't usually manifest like that. So please yes the answer is yes Join the group as soon as possible. Let's deal with this.

Speaker 1: 1:07:49

All right, you guys, I started late. I apologize, apologize a thousand times and I don't want to keep you late because I know it's super late for a lot of people. It's so late that it's actually early morning for some people. And again, I sincerely apologize for not being able to get started on time, but anyway, we did make it and we got some questions answered. And again, listen for all of you who are asking me questions here. They're beautiful questions and I'd love to get into them.

Speaker 1: 1:08:20

Okay, patricia, if you'd like to join the group, just go to drlodicom and then you'll be able to drodycom, my website, and you'll be able to, and you'll find the groups there and you can join any one of them, and please do so. We can have ongoing discussions and teachings, and then you have access to other kinds of articles, etc. So so trent's here is asking me do you have to be a subscriber to get your questions answered? No, no, all you have to do is, go to the website and you can ask the question there, and I think on instagram there's a place to answer and I think on facebook there's a place to answer it, a place to ask a question. But no, you don't have to be part of the group, right? You're welcome, laurie. Thank you for always being there. There's a good guy, gregory Madison.

Speaker 1: 1:09:06

All right, you guys, patricia, oh, I see you lost up for a few seconds. Huh, yeah, I know it's weird. So, cheryl, join the other group. You don't have to join the CFC group. You necessarily can join the Parasite or the Health and Healing group. Anyway, you guys, thank you so much. Make sure no Thai honey pot is slipping you any much. Make sure no Thai honey pot is slipping you any drugs. Make sure no Thai honey pot is slipping me any drugs. Good idea, I'll make sure of that. How much does it cost to stay at the clinic? All right, so call an Oasis of Healing, because it's an outpatient program, so you'd be staying at either like an Airbnb or some sort of hotel or something and then you would be attending the clinic, but the costs would depend on the program that you'd be in and all that. So really, an oasisoffeelingcom is the way to get to it. Anyway, sawadikap aloha and thank you very much. See you next week. And what do we do with this? We do that and then, yeah, there we go. So and aloha.