Episode 157 - 7.27.25 Beyond Labels: The Truth About Health & Healing

Fear prevents rational decisions. When faced with a serious diagnosis, many people find themselves paralyzed, unable to think clearly about their options. Dr. Thomas Lodi believes this is by design - medical terminology often creates unnecessary terror while offering little practical understanding of what's actually happening in your body.

This illuminating episode reframes our understanding of chronic health conditions by examining them through the lens of biological adaptation rather than disease. Dr. Lodi explains why he uses the term "chronically fermenting cells" instead of cancer, demonstrating how our bodies make intelligent adaptations when biological needs aren't being met. Whether discussing insulin resistance as protection against excessive glucose or enlarged prostates as congestion from hormonal changes, each condition reveals the body's attempt to maintain balance under challenging circumstances.

The conversation explores the profound connection between dental health and systemic conditions, with Dr. Lodi sharing his personal experience of resolving heart arrhythmias through biological dentistry. He discusses how modern dietary patterns have altered our jaw development, contributing to conditions like sleep apnea, and explains the crucial role of iodine in thyroid function. Throughout, he emphasizes that understanding the body's biological needs transforms our approach to healing.

Perhaps most enlightening is Dr. Lodi's perspective on human nutrition. He challenges the notion that diet is controversial, suggesting that nature has provided clear specifications for human health. The confusion stems not from conflicting science but from cultural conditioning that has disconnected us from our natural instincts. By distinguishing between hunger (physiological) and appetite (cultural), he opens the door to reimagin

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Chapters

• 1:34 Sunday Night Live Introduction
• 3:46 Understanding CFCs vs Cancer Terminology
• 11:22 Community Health Groups Overview
• 20:46 Human Diet Webinar Series Announcement
• 34:52 Sleep Apnea and Heart Arrhythmias
• 49:31 Enlarged Prostate and Parasite Connection
• 1:07:18 Dental Health and Systemic Connection
• 1:20:12 Parasitic Infections and Medical Dismissal
• 1:34:52 Inherited Conditions and Genetic Expression
• 1:46:09 Thyroid Function and Iodine Deficiency
• 1:54:10 Final Questions and Healing Recommendations

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:47

Welcome to Sunday Night Live and Monday Morning Live and now live. Here we are on this planet and I'm pretty sure it's a planet, but you know, I'm just guessing. Again, I've never been far enough away from it to see it. Hello Bee, good evening. For most people it's evening. Here on the I think it's called the Indochina time. We're like it's another day, isn't that weird? So let's see what we want to announce today.

Speaker 1: 1:19

Basically, the forum here is just to remind everyone is that you send in questions prior to Sunday night, so you can send them in. You go to drloadycom and you can put slash live, I guess, and I guess that'll help you find where to putlodycom and you can put slash live, I guess, and I guess that'll help you find where to put the questions. So you submit the questions and then I answer the questions. I'll answer as many as I can. Today I rarely get through all of them, so I apologize for that. And the one thing about questions is I don't really like Kathy from Florida and B I never. I don't just like answer a question like how many of this should I take, or is this good for diabetes, or whatever the question is. But I prefer to give you a background and understanding of the condition and so that you can actually answer that question, okay. So my goal is to give you. So, anyway, my goal is to give you understanding, and with understanding it eliminates a lot of questions. Because, let's say, you said how many, what drug should I take for this? So I say, okay, take this drug three times a day. But now you don't. You still don't understand the what, why or what's going on. That's not helpful, because you'll still have many questions and you'll say are there any side effects? Are there? Uh, is there anything else I should take? Or? But if you understand the condition, you can. You can then understand how to make it go away. So, anyway, that's the way I approach it, and sometimes that takes a little longer than just answering a question.

Speaker 1: 2:59

So if you're having a problem with CFCs which is and anybody who's new that's what we call, what they call cancer. We don't use that word, because that word is useless, it doesn't tell you anything. It doesn't tell you what it is, how it came to be or anything or how to eliminate it, because all they usually do is give you really bad news about it and that's all they do. And they say all we can do is torture you for two or three years and then you're going to die. Torture you for two or three years and then you're going to die. So it's not only a useless term but a self-fulfilling term. So we don't use that term. We use what they really are the chronically fermenting cells. So that's what we call them.

Speaker 1: 3:42

Okay, and the reason we do is because not only does it not offer any information, but it carries extreme fear, and fear prevents you from making rational decisions, and if you have an overriding, underlying fear in your life, you won't. It's like being completely distracted by something else all the time, so you'll never be fully present. In whatever you're doing right, whether you're working or being a mother or a father or a friend, you'll be distracted, you'll be somewhere else. But also because of the fear it prevents rational decisions, and we know that from psychology and neurology. Neurology calls it the amygdala override. The amygdala is a part of the middle brain that processes emotions like fear, especially fear, and so if you get news because that word has become synonymous with death, and it's not at all death, it's not at all.

Speaker 1: 4:50

It's one of the physiological adaptations that the body makes under certain particular circumstances, just like if you're eating a lot of bread, pasta, rice, cake, potatoes you're going to have high glucose in your interstitial fluid. Your cells are going to become insulin resistant to protect you, so that the cells don't die. They can't handle that much glucose, so they become insulin resistant. And insulin is the hormone that we make that allows glucose to get into cells, right? So now you're insulin resistant and you're in that.

Speaker 1: 5:24

You know they keep changing the diagnosis of diabetes. You know, but you're in that spectrum of diabetes, right? And whether it depends on how insulin resistant you are, whether they'll put the label on you as diabetes, it doesn't matter what label they put on it, they can call it whatever they want. All you have to do is very simple is not? Is make it, is change your lifestyle so that that particular adaptation of your body is no longer required. If there's not too much glucose in the interstitial fluid, the cells do not need to be insulin resistant, and they won't be. They won't be because they have to get enough glucose to to make energy to survive. So they won't be. That's a hundred percent guarantee. That's all very simple.

Speaker 1: 6:13

So that's just an example of the physiological adaptations our body makes when there are um, it's required, uh met, and it's not getting its biological needs met by. Either it's insufficient, it's not getting something it needs, or it's getting too much of something that it needs. You know you can't give it too much of something it needs. I guess there's actually three, and the third one would be it's getting something that it doesn't need, like a toxin. That's what we call a toxin, right? So if that's corrected, the body does not need to adapt and it'll perform perfectly. You'll have optimal functioning, which is the true definition of health Optimal functioning of the person, of the organism, when all of the biological needs are being met. So, anyway, that's why we use the acronym CFCs and the term chronically fermenting cells, because that's what they are and right in that line.

Speaker 1: 7:15

We have three groups. We have the health and healing group, where we talk about everything from fasting to movement, exercise to sleep, to diet, fasting, all the things that are associated with health and healing. The second group is the parasite guidance group, and the parasite guidance group is, as you all know, parasites have been highlighted. They were completely ignored a few years ago. Now they've become part of. I mean, everybody's suddenly an expert, right? So we have a parasite guidance group and the third group is a CFC group. Remember what CFCs? They're already chronically permanently closed. So now, if you're in the Parasite Group, you automatically have membership in the Health and Healing Group. In the CFC Group, you automatically have membership in the other two, the Parasite and Health and Healing. So we meet on Zoom meetings twice a a week, depending on what group you're in.

Speaker 1: 8:16

Um, we have webinars. There's one coming up. There's a webinar coming up on if you're in the, if you're in like america, europe and canada, mexico, that part of the world it's coming up on your monday evening. For us over here it's coming up on Tuesday morning. So it'll be 5 pm Pacific time and 8 pm Eastern. Over here in Thailand is 7 am. I don't know about Singapore, I think would be 8 am. So anyway, and then Australia.

Speaker 1: 8:46

Anyway, it's a four-part series on the human diet and the reason we need to talk about it is because no one knows. Anyway, it's a four-part series on the human diet and the reason we need to talk about it is because no one knows. Everyone thinks it's controversial and it's only controversial if you don't know. If you don't know, you can say well, because people have opinions, and an opinion comes from not knowing. So when you have an opinion about something you don't know, if you know it, it's not an opinion. Three plus three is six. It's not an opinion. You've got to extrapolate that and understand that. So my goal has always been to find out the truth about everything. So, anyway, the human diet is not controversial. So it's in four parts your Monday evening in that part of the world Anybody who's watching this as a Sunday night live it'll be your Monday evening Eastern Standard Time and 5 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Speaker 1: 9:57

And part one on the human diet is going to be I forget what we named it, but it's nature's basically. It's what did nature say? What's nature's input on our diet? I forget what I called it. Let me see Nature's design.

Speaker 1: 10:13

Okay, because nature, we're designed, and the reason that's so important is because clearly you understand you cannot get a horse to eat dog food and you cannot get a dog to eat horse food. They'll die first and their behaviors are the consequence of instinct. They don't have an artificial culture that replaced their instinct. We do, and we were told from the beginning when we were born no stuff, don't. No stuff, don't. Listen, you're not okay, we're going to fix you. So when your uncle comes in the room, if you're in Japan, we're going to fix you. So when this guy, when your uncle comes in the room, if you're in Japan, you go hi. If you're in Thailand, you go like this. If you're in America, you shake hands. You know, little girls don't sit like this. Little boys don't cry. You know all this stuff.

Speaker 1: 11:32

So we give all these instructions on how to respond appropriately according to the culture, and it's required of us, and part of that is our food. So whatever our particular culture is feeding us, that becomes our diet. Our diet is. So, as you know, horses don't have these discussions, dogs don't have these discussions. They know what the? I don't even think about it, it wouldn't think about it. So, anyway, so we're out of the instinct. Uh, the, the, uh, incredible benefit of instinct. We're out of that. We've all been enculturated.

Speaker 1: 12:08

So, wherever you're from, you're going to say, but I gotta have pasta, I've gotta have whatever, whatever it is fish or whatever. Um, and so what? What comes from culture is something called appetite, and appetite is born of the mind, whereas hunger is born of the body. Hunger is a physiological response to a nutrient or energy deficit, whereas hunger is a concept. God, I'd like to eat a pizza, I'd like to eat a steak. I'd like to eat a steak, I'd like to eat a whatever. That's not hunger, that's appetite, anyway, and that's the problem.

Speaker 1: 12:48

So, to deal with it, this webinar is going to be in four pieces, four parts, two weeks apart. The first part is what did nature say? How are we designed to eat? Right, clearly, we're not designed to swim in the ocean and consume fish. We're not designed. We don't have gills. We're not designed that way. Well, that's clear, right, that's pretty clear. But we're going to really focus on what we are. That's the first part, and the second part will be. The second part will be cooked food is poison. I don't know what to say, but please join for that one. The third part will be what does the research say?

Speaker 1: 13:35

So, there's been a lot of research over the year, over many, many years. You know, some really controlled studies or observational studies or all kinds of studies, but also epidemiological studies, where they look at countries or parts of the world and they look at their kind of diet. So, anyway, let's go over that. And then, so, what does the research say? That's pretty important, right? And then part three will be I mean, I'm sorry that was cooked food is poison, yeah. And then the third part is what does the research say?

Speaker 1: 14:16

The fourth part is exposing the myths. And what are the myths? Where do we need to get protein? Is the protein food? How much protein do we need? What else do we need?

Speaker 1: 14:26

There's a big, there's a growing, as you all know. There's a growing movement that people can live on only animals, eating animals and animal products, and they're calling it the carnivore diet. So, and then there's the Mediterranean diet, there's the Atkins diet, there's all sorts of diets. And then the other one is oxalates. If you eat spinach or kale, you're going to get oxalates and you're going to have kidney stones, or you'll get oxalosis, which is, you know, oxalates all over the body. Another one is broccoli and cauliflower and cabbage All these are called cruciferous vegetables, and they will cause goiters, they'll damage your thyroid. I mean, it's just, there's several myths that we're going to clear up.

Speaker 1: 15:19

So it's going to be a four-part series, and just go to the website and join and let's see who it goes. Oh, you know, in addition, when you join these groups, you'll be on a Telegram chat, a group chat, and that's amazing because I'll tell you, the people that are members already are brilliant. They've been in this situation for a long time, most of them, and they've done a lot of research. Of course, some are new are just recently told they have a problem here that's another word we don't use is diagnosed, but a lot of people have been in it for a while or a long time and they've accumulated resources. So it's a fantastic way to get resources. It's a fantastic way to talk with others. So it's a big group and of course, I'm in the group and you can ask me questions. But on our Zoom chats, instead of you submitting questions in advance, you ask them spontaneously. It's like a Zoom meeting. If you want to, if you have a problem you were just diagnosed with CFC somewhere, join the CFC group and just ask say, here's my medical records, what should I do? You're going to get two meetings a week with me that last three to five hours, so it's like an ongoing consultation. It's really well worth it.

Speaker 1: 16:50

You also get a kinesiologist, darren. That's a physiologist who specializes in muscles and movement and all that, and so he helps everyone learn to maintain activity, regardless of your state of health, and he's very inspiring. He's an amazing guy. And then there's Vanessa, and she is a nutritionist, a health coach, a yoga instructor, meditation teacher. She's just an amazing woman. I've worked with her many years. And then there's also Donna, who's been a raw vegan for about 37 years and she leads groups and she's been helping people in New York for years 37 years so she really knows how to help people make a transition.

Speaker 1: 17:43

And the only way to make a transition is if that transition is delicious. It's not delicious, you're not going to do it. You're not going to do it. It has to taste good, and if you do it, it doesn't taste good like you're just eating salad or something like that. If you do that, you're going to be feeling deprived, and that feeling of deprivation will directly suppress your immune system. So, truly, if it doesn't taste good, it's not good for you. The opposite is not the truth. If it tastes good, it's good for you. So those are the other people.

Speaker 1: 18:19

And if you're in the cfc group, remember that is chronically fermenting cells. Um, then you also have kathy's corner. Kathy is a psychotherapist who's been practicing that in many years I don't know 30, 40 years, um and uh. It's a place for you to express your emotions about whatever you're going on, whatever is going on with you, with CFCs, and learn how to you know, and it's a whole group of people. It's fantastic. So, anyway, that's all the things you get in the MemChain. It's pretty cool, plus writing things, and when I have these webinars, you don't have to pay for them, so it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1: 18:58

Anyway, let me see what else. Oh yeah, so ours. You don't have to pay for them, so it's pretty cool. Anyway, let me see what else. Oh yeah, so part one is july 28th at 8 pm eastern. Part two is august 14th at 8 pm eastern. Part three is august 28th at 8 pm eastern. And part four is september 11th, 8 pm Eastern. And they're all on a Thursday, except the first one, which is Monday, if you live on that side of the world.

Speaker 1: 19:26

Okay, so hello to everyone. Thank you for coming. I don't know if X is on today. There was a problem with X getting in. I don't understand it, but my team is working on it, so I don't know if X is on or not. So hopefully, if you have X, you probably also have. Maybe, I don't know, you might have Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, or you can go to our website, drlodycom and just stream it. Yeah, what else Rumble, anyway? So do that, okay, and just stream it. What else Rumble, anyway? So do that, okay. Hello Lilo, I can hear a sound now. Good, I'm glad everybody's connected.

Speaker 1: 20:08

Greetings from Phuket, thailand. How amazing is that. I happen to live there too. My camera is on. You can't oh, how crazy is that. I'm so sorry. How weird is that. I'm so sorry. How weird is that. I'm so sorry. Thank you, I'm glad I read that. God, that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 20:27

All right, anyway, here we are, so let's get started with the questions. Remember the format of this particular live stream, which we've been doing for I don't know four or five years now, I don't know how long it's been, but it's every Sunday night that side of the world, monday in Australia and New Zealand and Southeast Asia, and you know eight parts of Asia, so, anyway, so it's a live stream and in this, what we do is we answer questions that were sent in previously, and you're going to have a lot of questions about your particular situation, which is why we made the groups. So if you want to go to the health and healing group, it's the least cost, you know, fees are the least. And you know, twice a month there's a meeting with me for as long as it takes to get everyone's questions answered. Sometimes it's three, four, five hours, six hours, whatever it takes to get everyone's questions. So it's like an ongoing consultation. So it's plus everything else I even mentioned.

Speaker 1: 21:31

So, anyway, thank you, beloved, for telling me about the camera. Praise, yes, hello, lilo, hello everyone, and fantastic, and there's Alice, yay, okay, so let's answer some questions. Where are we? Oh, by the way, so that's tomorrow, right, the first part of the human diet, and it's, you know, I encourage everyone to watch it, because if you've been listening to the stuff I say for any length of time, you'll understand that my perspective on things is not only the topic we're talking about. I go a thousand feet in the air and I take a look at the complete picture. A thousand feet in the air and I take a look at the complete picture. And because without context, without understanding, without all that knowledge that is required, you'll always have questions, because you'll be, you won't know and you won't understand the situation. So, just to let you know, we're going to talk about what, what nature has designed, where we fit in nature and what is nature and all that, and then what we were designed to eat, and that's not Controversial. So let's find it's tomorrow at 8 am, 8 pm Eastern. Where did I put the questions? I was just looking at them. What the heck? 8 am, 8 pm Eastern. All right, where did I put the questions? I was just looking at them, what the heck?

Speaker 1: 23:04

Oh, by the way, in any of the groups, whatever group you're in, you can ask questions about anything. If you're in the health and healing group, you can ask questions about Parkinson's. You can ask CFCs or whatever. If you're in the parasite, you can ask that. If you're in health and healing, you can ask questions about parasites If you're in the CFC group. So that is an important thing to consider. Where the heck did I put the questions? All right, so let me just get them again. Where did I get those? I got those on, by the way, I can't believe it On Telegram.

Speaker 1: 23:36

We have our Telegram groups, so in any of the so whichever group you're in, you'll be in the Telegram groups. You'll also be in the group with Kathy's Corner if you join that. You'll be in the group with Darren for how to get you moving around. You'll be in the group with Vanessa Vanessa and Darren are the same and then with Donna for the live eating living food, non-animal. Oh, I can't believe they still have this thing. It's called Dr Thomas Lodi's Community and it's not me. People are still joining and I've told Telegram about it and they don't care. So that's not what I was looking for. It's under team. I can't believe it. Oh, there it is. Oh, okay, there it is Great, all right.

Speaker 1: 24:26

So first question I haven't had a chance to look at these at all. The topic is sleep Connection with sleep apnea and heart arrhythmias Causes and treatment suggestions, please. Vagus nerve question mark. Magnes nerve question mark. Magnesium question mark. Breathing patterns question mark.

Speaker 1: 24:53

And this is Safiya, all right, so it sounds like you or someone that has been told they have sleep apnea, or maybe you know it, so anyway, sleep apnea. Or or maybe you know it, so anyway, sleep apnea for those who don't know is when there are periods of time during the night, while you're sleeping, that you stop breathing and then, which is, if that's happening, happening repeatedly throughout the night, that's gonna going to be a problem over time, right? Because, remember, if you look basically at our bodies and the way it works, we need to produce energy that we take from the environment, eating and breathing, and all that To make energy we need six oxygens and one glucose to enter into the cell, I mean, and get into the mitochondria to produce our energy, which is atp. Why do we need energy? Because we are um it within our bodies. We're making about 37 million at least cells per second and we are engaged in about at least 37 sextillion reactions, biochemical reactions, every second and the sextillion is 21 zeros. So that's every second. What do you need? Because all those reactions require enzymes, not, I mean, there's a couple, there's a few things in there, but you know 99.9 require enzymes and then enzymes need energy to work, so anyway. So when you're not getting that oxygen, when you have these, if you have repeated periods of not breathing throughout the night, that's a problem.

Speaker 1: 26:36

They used to call it pickwickian syndrome because of a guy in what's. His name had a book Anyway, a well-known American author at the late 18th and 19th century I can't remember the book Anyway. So it was Pickwickian because he was an overweight guy. So originally it was for people who were overweight and what would happen is their soft tissue in their throat would lie down for a long period of time, the soft tissue would actually block their breathing. You know that usually presents as snoring and then it becomes sleep apnea. But now it's happening in people who are not overweight as well sleep apnea but now it's happening in people who are not overweight as well. And that's because of cranial bone misalignment which affects the and our mandible.

Speaker 1: 27:29

Our lower jaw is smaller and smaller and it's because we don't use it the way we were designed to use it. So we were designed to chew vegetables, grind them, and we don't anymore. We're eating a lot of processed foods. We're eating a lot of animals and animal products which don't require chewing. They just require, I mean, a little bit of chewing, but not like prolonged chewing. So if you're eating a salad, you should take your while to eat it. You know it's not something you just gulp down. You've got to chew it Anyway. So that's how we were living when we were after weaning, after we were weaned from our mother's milk, we started eating maybe vegetable soups and stuff, but what do you call it? Blended soups, not cooked soups. And then we ate vegetables.

Speaker 1: 28:23

Our masseter muscles, the muscles here that allow the lower jaw to close and move around, would be highly developed and our jaw would be bigger, our lower jaw would be bigger. And what would that do? That would also allow for and remember, we've got to have the kind of joint we have in our mouth. It's not that the lower jaw would be larger and we'd all look like that. It wouldn't be like that it would grow together Because we have a kind of jaw we have Anyway, I'll talk about that tomorrow in the food, what nature has, how nature developed, but because of that jaw it allows us to chew and to move our lower jaw or mandible in a horizontal as well as vertical position. That muscle would be much larger and this jaw would be a lot bigger. That muscle would be much larger and this jaw would be bigger.

Speaker 1: 29:28

Because, remember, bone grows in response to pressure, in response to what's the bone growth is. I mean beyond getting your bones to your adult state that you were. That is genetic, you know, to you get the height and weight that you become is not completely genetic. You were designed to get to a certain point but, depending on nutrition and whatever all sorts of environment, you may not reach it or you may go beyond it or whatever. But anyway, bones grow to where they're going to grow, but they can get stronger and larger in response to pressure. Okay, that's what happens with the mandible. The mandible will be bigger. So since our mandible has not, there was no requirement to eat a lot of vegetables it's gotten smaller and smaller.

Speaker 1: 30:14

So where people are now being born with, when they get their secondary teeth, their teeth are, they have extra teeth. We can say they don't have extra teeth, all right, so it's just that they don't fit in the jaws. Anyway, that's just what. So, but in addition to that and the cranial bones, there's also we wind up with a narrow opening between you know, the nasal cavity goes down here, the oral cavity goes down here and it goes into the lungs right, and the tissues around there are, because our anatomy has changed is causing them to close the airway, and so we have a lot of people who are having sleep apnea and they don't know it. So, and this is kind of a relatively recent phenomenon I'm not sure how long it's been recognized, but biological dentists that are accredited and well-trained know this and they always address that.

Speaker 1: 31:21

So how do you deal with sleep apnea? I would go to a biological dentist who lists that as part of their expertise. I'm not sure where you live, but Let me see where can I find you Computers? Oh, there we go, okay, sophia. I'm not sure where you are, sophia, but if you're in the US and you can get to California, there's a doctor, emma Abramayan, who's an incredible biological dentist in Glendale, california. But you can also look at the IAOMT, which is the International Association of, I think, medical Toxicology, which is what is the organization that biological dentists join, get certified by. It teaches rational, healthy dentistry.

Speaker 1: 32:22

So like a regular dentist is like a regular doctor, and they learn the rockefeller paradigm. You know that you've got diseases. We got to get rid of them and we'll get rid of them. We'll either cut them out or burn them out or poison them out. You know that, that's, that's that's. But biological dentists are very good at that, biological dentists and it really depends on what is the etiology, which is a word that means how does it develop, how did this happen, and who the person is, whether it's you or someone you know.

Speaker 1: 32:56

Now, heart arrhythmias again could be dentistry as well. Now, heart arrhythmias again could be dentistry as well. Because the wisdom teeth if your wisdom teeth were extracted by a regular dentist, what happens is regular dentists, when they extract a tooth, they don't remove the periodontal ligament, which is the ligament that connects the tooth to the jawbone. They don't remove that ligament, which means there's a highway into the jawbone and the microorganisms that are in your mouth would just go right through that ligament and set up camp, whether it's up here or down here, set up camp in the bone.

Speaker 1: 33:28

It's called a fatty degeneration, osteonecrosis of the jawbone, fdoj, but it's commonly known as cavitation, and these cavitations are colonized by bacteria that have mutated because they're kind of protective from being eliminated by the immune system and and so they mutate and they produce toxins. And every one of our teeth is on a meridian, it connects to certain organs and the wisdom teeth happen to connect to the heart. So if you had a wisdom tooth removed 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and you have a heart arrhythmia, that's the first thing to go to make sure and, by the way, if you had an extraction by a regular dentist whether or not the biological dentist can identify a cavitation on a 3D cone beam, dt, which is how they evaluate you whether or not they can see it. It's there, it's there, it has to be. So you've got to have that thought, whether or not they see it go in and go into that bone and take out the pus.

Speaker 1: 34:51

They use ozonated water to irrigate it, then they'll use laser, then they'll use ozone gas and they push that deep into the area where the tooth is taken out and it goes up into the trabeculae of the bones. So bone has trabeculae. If you've ever seen bone or you know a bone cut open, you'll see it's got all kinds of caves, it almost looks like a honeycomb. A bone cut open, you see it's got all kinds of caves, it almost looks like a honeycomb. But that's where they'll go. So they're in the jaw bone and there might be a large cavity open. There might be a large hole there where they're doing most of their work. But they also go into those caverns.

Speaker 1: 35:38

So when they push the ozone in the, the gas, after they've done it with water, they've already spun your blood when you first came in and they they got the top layer of it, which is platelet-rich fibrin, which is how blood's caught, and they just put that right up and they seal it. So it's been completely sterilized and sealed and I personally had that problem. I developed an arrhythmia out of nowhere. I was fortunate enough to find out that it was my wisdom tooth 16 and 17, which are the only two I had extracted. I didn't have any and I went and had that procedure done and within five days it was done. I was almost in complete heartburn. That was three years ago, so it's the real deal. So that's what you want and see that would make sense. If you're having sleep apnea, your first and most important thing you do is to go to a biological dentist who is certified, not just a member of IAOMT, and you can go on their website and find out if there's anyone in your area Certified. And if you're in the US or wherever you are, if you can get to California, go see Dr Emma Abramayan in Glendale, california.

Speaker 1: 37:04

All right, and then now you asked about magnesium and breathing patterns and all that. No, it's not something that you're missing. It's a physiological consequence of anatomical changes. And those anatomical changes are, you know, due to various things extractions, you know, narrow, narrow, uh airways, too much soft tissue, and our bite and our cranium there's, there's, there's, actually, it's more, it's a physical thing. So, of course, taking magnesium is going to be good. If you're eating a healthy diet which is plants, you'll be getting a lot of magnesium, because anything that's green has magnesium, but anyway. So there's lots of things you could be taking as well to be healthy, because the goal is to restore health.

Speaker 1: 38:00

All right, so now let's go to the next person, and this is Nick. It's called Ivermectin. I have an enlarged prostate. I saw your video about Ivermectin, bendazole and antiprotozole and I'm willing to try. I live in Canada. I'm willing to try. I live in Canada. I would like to know how much to take and for how long. In 76 kilograms, please help.

Speaker 1: 38:37

Doctor said to me nothing can be done except surgery. Well, you have enlarged prostate. I'm hoping and assuming. Well, I can't assume, but I'm hoping they didn't do it. All men I can't say all men, because I think men that live in nature and like the Hunzas and the people that live in Georgia and Ecuador, there are places where people are living a natural life and their prostate won't get enlarged. But other than that, most men get an enlarged prostate. As they get, you know, into their late 40s, 50s it starts to get enlarged and basically it's getting congested. And it's getting congested because, you know, a large part of its function is no longer required and so it's getting congested, whatever it's been producing it can't eliminate. So this is partly and I think a significant part of it is that as a man getting older and they go through andropause.

Speaker 1: 39:38

Women go through menopause, men go through andropause, and andropause is a lot more subtle because you don't know it specifically. A woman knows because her menstrual cycle, her menstrual period stopped, so it's clear. But in a man there's no specific thing that happens. But basically because of the same thing sex hormone. So with a man will be testosterone, but that decline we the, because this testosterone has many, many functions in the body, but what a couple of them are libido. The other one is for sexual function. So what happens is as a man gets older, his libido goes down and his sexual function goes down, and so his sex life usually goes to zero or close, which means the prostate is not being cleared.

Speaker 1: 40:40

And if someone's in that condition, their diet's been probably Not eating human food. And if you want to know what human food is, get started tomorrow. The series starts tomorrow, 8 pm, eastern Standard Time, monday. And the other thing is, if you change your diet and you got your hormones restored, it would be gone. Your hormones restore to be gone. So in the meantime, if you went to a conventional doctor, they would give you Proscar, which is five milligrams a day, which is finasteride, which blocks the DHT formation, which is a metabolite of testosterone. And DHT is the metabolite of testosterone, it's dehydrotestosterone, it's the metabolite that is associated with male pattern baldness and an enlarged prostate. So an interesting thing to understand is that research shows that if the testosterone total total testosterone does not go below 550 for any extended period of time, there's a significant decrease in the incidence of prostate CFCs chronically fermenting cells Decrease. So maintaining a high testosterone prevents CFCs.

Speaker 1: 42:09

But if someone gets CFCs, they're told to. They usually put them on an androgen blocker, which is testosterone, is the main androgen which completely distorts and imbalances and imbalance is a very, not an adequate word to say what happens to the whole, to the, because the hypothalamus tells the pituitary what to do. Hypothalamus tests the blood it's like doing the blood test and if this is low or high, it will then give the instructions to the pituitary. If this is low or high, it will then give the instructions to the pituitary, which then gives the instructions to thyroid, adrenals, testes, ovaries. That may be. It. Pituitary does other things, but I'm just saying it's called a hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis, hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid axis, hypothalamic pituitary testes, so anyway. So now, if a gland, if an endocrine gland which is a hormone-producing gland, like the testes, thyroid ovaries, whatever stops working, it's producing less, it's not able to produce the adequate amounts of a hormone, then all the effects of that hormone are not going to be seen anymore in the body. And this is what happens in aging. But it's not that 45, 50, 60 is when this happens. It's not that 45, 50, 60 is when this happens. That's our culture. There are cultures where the women are delivering children at 65 and the men are still impregnating them at 110. So we have a very successful premature aging program here in the Western world.

Speaker 1: 44:06

So anyway, now you said you're taking ivermectin for an enlarged prostate. Well, that's that's what you one important strategy to deal with this. But you've got to take care of the other and you've got to stop eating animals. If you're eating animals, that's a big deal, especially with prostate. Um, you gotta change your diet. You've got to be more active. You can't be sitting around. You've got to get your testosterone.

Speaker 1: 44:33

And remember you don't just balance one particular hormone, because hormones are like an orchestra, right? You can't tune up the woodwinds and not tune up the strings or the brass. If you do it that way, you're going to have cacophony. You're not going to have a beautiful sympathy, all right. So you don't just tune up the testosterone, because it is reacting to its environment. Its environment predominantly are the other hormones that are circulating, predominantly are the other hormones that are circulating.

Speaker 1: 45:13

There's a relationship between the pituitary and, remember, the pituitary. All many of those endocrine organs are controlled by the pituitary, which is taking instructions from the hypothalamus. So the effect of one can affect the other. So you've got to get your thyroid correct, your adrenal glands balanced and, in your case, androgens, testosterone balance. You've got to get your testosterone up to a healthy level and the research says, in terms of clearing the prostate out in a natural way, which is ejaculation, that a man needs to have 20. The studies show that a minimum of 21 ejaculations per month Very important. So that can only happen if your hormones are balanced, your testosterone comes back up. Otherwise it won't happen. It can't happen.

Speaker 1: 46:05

So the first thing you should do, and everybody should do, with any problem they have, is start getting rid of the waste, the garbage. Start a juice cleanse. You know, a healthy vegetable juice cleanse with enough fruit to make it delicious, and I'll check that out. Pittsburgh hey, jade Singer, you couldn't pay me to go to this guy. Am I that guy? Then why are you listening? You're not to be here. Go to this guy. No, you're pay me to go to this guy. Am I that guy? Then why are you listening? You don't have to be here. Go to this guy. No, you're not going to go to me. I'm not asking you to go to me, anyway, jade. So what do you got? Thanks for visiting, anyway.

Speaker 1: 46:44

So that's with the prostate. You got to get up and be active. Basically, you have to restore balance in your body, and that balance means your hormonal system. And where we all want to be balanced, to restore to, is somewhere in the latter part of the fourth decade of our lives, which is 35 to 40. Because that's the period of our lives where we're probably most functionally balanced, right, because there's the craziness of the teens and the 20s and then we start declining late 40s and 50s. So that's right about the time of really healthy functioning. And so we want to get back to that.

Speaker 1: 47:24

Because when they say your testosterone is normal, what they're looking at is community reference labs in the us. They have, um, what are they? I haven't been there so long. Uh, there's two main ones lab core and uh, I forget anyway their references for what's a normal blood test? What was a normal result on a blood test is the result of their statistically what they, when they call it a community reference lab rather than a hospital laboratory, because the hospital laboratory is going to be built on a combination of known parameters. You know you've got to be in this, but in addition to their particular local patients that come into the hospital and you get a bell curve, like you always do when you have people right and if you're in there and you're not, you're not one or two standard deviations above either end, then you're normal.

Speaker 1: 48:18

But you don't want to be normal because normal people every 35 seconds have a heart attack. A normal person every 45 seconds has a stroke. This is old data. 60-70% are type 2 diabetics. It goes on and on and on. It's crazy. You don't want to be normal. What you want to be is healthy.

Speaker 1: 48:37

Unfortunately, there are no healthy range. We don't have reference ranges for healthy when we get a lab test. The reason we know it is because, first of all, we're not even thinking of that. Remember, first of all, we're not even thinking of that Because, remember, doctors like me, mds are trained in this mythological thing called diseases and how to combat them and fight them. So we're trained to fight, we have an armamentarium and get rid of diseases. It's all myth, right? A real doctor helps you restore health. That's the goal. Restore health, not try to go to war against some part of your body and get rid of it, so anyway.

Speaker 1: 49:25

So, for example, if they say well, your testosterone is normal because for your age range but that's my age range in people who are unhealthy, I would rather be in the average range of people who are healthy, do we know any? No, we don't. All right, then let's go back to the 35 to 40 years old, because that's when we're the most healthy. But, like I told you before, like the Hunzas and there's a place down in South America or Central America, I don't remember where the men are able to father children at the age of 110, and they're not, of course, in societies that they don't know about Viagra or any of that stuff, because they didn't go through the toxic, the accumulation of toxins that caused the endocrine hormone-producing organs to lose their ability to function sooner. So menopause, andropause, is premature. It's about 30, 40 years sooner than it should be. But that's in today's world, toxic world. In ancient times, you know, biblically, we averaged lifespan was 912 years before the flood and no other.

Speaker 1: 50:46

So it's the prostate, that's also the breast, that's also everything. Cleansing all that and then make sure you're providing your body with the proper nutrients You're moving around. You got to get everything balanced. You're sleeping by nine, at the latest 9 pm, and of course, in the meantime, if the enlarged prostate is causing you to get up multiple times during the night and you're not able to sleep, there are lots of DHT blockers DHT, dehydrotestosterone, salpometal nettles there's a whole list of them. If you go to any kind of vitamin supplement shop you're going to find they'll have a section on prostate and if you look on the ingredients you'll see it's multiple botanical, plant-based remedies that block DHT. And then, of course, in the conventional world they give you finasteride which is called Proscar. It's five milligrams. You take one a day and that'll help shrink the prostate. All right.

Speaker 1: 51:50

Next question is how did that be All right? So I'm going to go back to here and go back to where was it? It was in there it is. It was here. Beautiful, okay.

Speaker 1: 52:10

So our next question is from Eric and the topic is dental Doctor, does any of the cavity teeth cause or start worm problems? My family has all sorts of dental problems. How and where to start if those can cause worm problems too? Well, there's no direct connection between especially causative effect of dental producing worms or somehow making them. So the answer is no. However, dental is everything else. No. However, dental is everything else and I'm sure it might even play a role in if you got exposed of this a worm some other way, usually through food or drinks. In faraway countries there's a couple weird ones that can crawl through your skin, but for the most part it's no. Um, but the dental is not only associated with actually causative about 80 of our systemic illnesses.

Speaker 1: 53:20

So go to a biological dentist, like I said, certified by iaT not just a member, but it was certified in that and S-M-A-R-T, which is learning how to properly remove mercury for people who have had mercury put in their mouth. But that's very, very important. So go take care of that Now. That's going to cause a dysbiosis. The dental problems. Many of the microorganisms that are in our gut are also in our mouth, not all of them, and both are a reflection of our diet and our oral hygiene, but our diet mainly. And so if your gut microbiome was disturbed and you got exposed to some sort of worm, somehow it might find it easier to hang around and easier to set up a family. So in that regard there could be a relationship.

Speaker 1: 54:23

But regardless if you have any direct observations that you have parasites or not, and we should all do a parasite cleanse yearly, and the first one should be a little longer, I would say about at least a minimum three, six cycles. A cycle is three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, and not just ivermectin. Oh, that, no, that was with nick, by the way, nick, you should do nick, yes, yes, yes, I had a woman, I think let me go back to nick for a minute eric, um, uh, I had a woman who took care of her grandfather who had a large prostate and it was actually cfcs as well and she put them on antiparasitics and the prostate. Incredible, she showed us the pictures videos actually of these worms that were crawling in the bathtub. It was crazy, but these worms came out and she increased the antiparasitic medication and ultimately all the worms came out. I don't know how long this process was, but his prostate was back to normal. I forgot to mention that.

Speaker 1: 55:32

But it's not just ivermectin. You've got to get a benzimidazole, which is albendazole, mebendazole or fenbendazole. You've got to get a niclosamine, but if any of these are causing a problem like vomiting or diarrhea, just don't take it. There's also pyranthal pomoate, there is prosaequantel, there's different ones you can take so, and then there are antiprotozoals like the nitazoxonide or tinidazole, metronidazole, and then antifungals like diflucan and and Etriconazole, which is a cousin of Fluconazole. So, okay, so back to Eric's dental, back to Zeal. Okay, so we answered the dental thing. Now Biological dentist number one.

Speaker 1: 56:27

Then start doing a cleanse. Do a green juice, a vegetable, fresh vegetable, organic vegetable juice. Add enough fruits, lemon and apple or whatever you like, pineapple, but don't make it way more. Just not enough to really enjoy it. You look forward and do do a minimum of three weeks, six weeks, that means no solid food. Drink at least three-quarters a day, three liters a day. Next is Zili. Zili is? I reached out to your team via email and I have yet to hear back.

Speaker 1: 57:01

I suffer from a parasitic infection. I know because I'm 47 years old and I've been given the gift of sight and sensory. I've been given the gift of sight and sensory. Whatever I have so far is unheard of. As soon as I mention parasites, I've been dismissed by doctors without being asked questions or even given a physical exam. I went to the after being scared to death after I saw something unusual and I was asked if I drink or do drugs. I don't.

Speaker 1: 57:43

I've been told I'm heading down a slippery slope, accused of downloading my video from the internet when I showed a doctor, and I've been threatened with being Baker active. I'm not sure what that means. I'm not delusional. I've been accused of that as well. Wait, I now nor ever have suffered from any mental health issues. I spent thousands of dollars trying to get medical help, as a lot of places don't take my insurance, and now I'm out of money and no better off than I was 11 months ago. I'm defeated. How can I get help when I can't get a doctor to listen and hear me with dignity? Well, sadly, tragically, that's the Rockefeller medical system that started in the United States and has spread around to the whole world, and that's what it is.

Speaker 1: 58:53

And when doctors don't know about something for the most part. If it's not in their algorithm or in their, it's hard to say. If it's not, if they weren't told to do something, they're not going to do it. So now I don't know what you said. You went to the doctor when you saw something. I'm not sure what that is.

Speaker 1: 59:15

I'm assuming, since we're talking about parasites, you might've seen a worm come out or what you thought was a worm. Now, many times we think we saw a worm, like if you're getting a colonic, you'll see things come out. Oh my God. And a lot of times it's mucus, long strings of mucus produced in the gut, or it's lining of the gut. It can be a variety of things. That's why, if you ever see anything come out, don't just ooh and ah it.

Speaker 1: 59:44

Get it, put it in the jar with a little bit of water. And if you can get some saline water normal saline, you can buy it at the drugstore. It's just got the right percentage of salt, put it in that that's probably best. But, um, release some water and get it over to a laboratory and get it, get it identified so you know if it is a worm. I know what it is all right.

Speaker 1: 1:00:09

So I'm assuming that's what's happening, unless you have an ectoparasite which can come from what you know flies, but usually the bot fly and that's usually below our southern border, in the US I'm talking about. In the US I'm talking about, and the botfly, you know, either it lands on you or it laid eggs somewhere else and, like a mosquito, gets near them and the eggs get on their legs or something, but somehow the eggs get onto your skin and then they turn into larva. They come out and the larva penetrate your skin and they go underneath and they're terrible, terrible, terrible. And there are other parasites too. So you're, you know, um, my first response to you would not be that you're delusional at all, would be that let's see if we can, since it's extremely difficult to diagnose, which means identify, parasites, because they the reason they're called parasites, and there's the reason they're a parasite is because they have successfully, successfully avoided being detected and eliminated for who knows thousands of years. So they're good at it, and that's why, if you went to any parasite department of an infectious disease unit or infectious disease standalone center, there's a very good chance they wouldn't detect it. So and it's.

Speaker 1: 1:01:48

If you studied the subject, then you'll be, you'll understand that everyone has parasites to a differing, differing, differing degrees, of course. So anyway. So what I would do is I would start on a good, healthy, a good regimen of antiparasitics. So you need to get a doctor to work with or join our parasite group to find out where to get the parasite. If you learn a lot, I would join the parasite group. That sounds really good for you and that'll mean that you're going to be having weekly conversations twice a week with me and a bunch of people who are really smart. They've been doing their homework for years. All right, so that's exactly what I would do, because then you'll find out what to do, where to get them. But I just went over it. You know, in the previous question, right, about a basic program. Now I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:02:45

You reached out to our team on the email. Is that at hello at drlodycom? That's our main email, hello at drlodycom, is that it? And you never heard back. I apologize for that. I'm hoping my team will connect with you. Z Lee, we have your email, so I'm going to hope my team, hope someone on my team is here. Oh, okay, so okay, elizabeth. I apologize, elizabeth. So you sent me. I'll look for that. My Wednesday night, which is what's today, monday? Okay, alright, so join the group. So to do that, you've got to join the group. So I would go to drlodycom, drlodycom. Go to the website and join the group so you can have access to that group on Wednesday night. See, you guys have all these wonderful questions and they're spontaneous, so I'd love to. You've got to join the group. That's why I have the group, so that we can interact.

Speaker 1: 1:03:52

So you've been told you're heading down a slippery slope. Listen, you've been told that by whatever people that are in the linguistic prison of uh, that we've been put in. First of all, it's a colloquialism, that people don't even know really what the origin. Slippery slope means what? That you're likely to fall. It's a stupid thing. So you're headed down a slippery slope. So what should you do? Turn back and go back up? It's ridiculous. Nobody takes your insurance. Well, if you're low on money, like you say, then just join the health and healing group. It's the most affordable and you can ask any question on any group. So you know it's not that health and healing can only ask about fasting. And so next question is by Lauren.

Speaker 1: 1:04:46

The topic is other. I'm curious what your experience and understanding is of inherited gene mutations, specifically that of Charcot-Marie-Tooth syndrome, which affects the peripheral nervous system and myelin sheath integrity. I know that lifestyle diet, sleep, exercise, stress, etc. Is the key factor in management of symptoms of physiological expression. But if you could share where is that thing, was it there? But if you could share your Dr Lodi perspective, even coming up with a better name, like you did with CFCs and understanding of the neurological symptoms pathways, I'd love to hear it. Thank you. Well, you know, the thing about what they do is that they actually name things and they say so when you name something.

Speaker 1: 1:05:46

Now, first of all, any disease, anything they call a disease, is not an isolated. It's not a thing. That is not you. That got into you and you've got to get rid of it. That's the myth. So, regardless of what it is, the only time where that's not the case is, you know, like trauma or otherwise, any systemic problem that's happening with you is rising out of the body because the body's biological needs are not being met of people.

Speaker 1: 1:06:28

Then, as you noted or referred to, it doesn't need to be expressed. It doesn't definitely need to be expressed. So what that means is cells have the ability to turn down, to silence some genes and turn on others. And when they do that, they've changed what's called genetic expression. They haven't mutated any, but they've changed the genetic expression. That's epigenetics and that has some profound effects, because if you've turned off certain genes and you've turned on other genes, you've basically changed the function of that cell or group of cells or organ. So that's pretty amazing, because you think about it.

Speaker 1: 1:07:17

What's the difference between a kidney cell and a liver cell? Well, the kidney cell has silenced all of its DNA except for kidney stuff. And the liver cell has silenced all of its DNA except for liver stuff, but it still has the same DNA as the kidney stuff. And the liver cell has silenced all of its DNA except the liver stuff, but it still has the same DNA as the kidney cell. It's just turned them off. Those are epigenetic changes, tina, you're talking about my doctor watches you and he is the truth.

Speaker 1: 1:07:43

I love my doctor. Good, fantastic, that's wonderful. It's so hard to find a good doctor. You're very lucky. Can one do everything? Yes, wonderful, it's so hard to find a good doctor, you're very lucky. Can one do everything? And albenzol, yes, it's done all the time, all over the world. All right, yeah, so anyway, and there are a number of conditions. So I don't call these diseases, I call them adaptive responsive. They're corrective adaptive responsive Whether or not you actually did inherit a, because there are inheritable mutations?

Speaker 1: 1:08:13

Absolutely there are, there's no question. But when they say you have a genetic predisposition to something, you have to understand that means nothing, unless you have a particular mutation that you got from your father, let's say, but not your mother. So now you have. They call it the trade or whatever, but but it's not really being expressed full time because you still have the other healthy chromosome doing its job, which is usually a BRCA. For the women they're trying to tell women to get prophylactic total abdominal hysterectomies and salpingo-ovo-phorectomy it's crazy as well as bilateral mastectomies what it's crazy. Who is? So I can't answer all your questions. I'm sorry Because I have to respect the people that sent these in. So please join our groups, because usually a question there's these questions here that I would. I wouldn't just answer the question. I would have to ask questions like what do you eat? Where do you live? Alright, so now? So the Charcot-Marie-Tooth syndrome? It's, I'm not sure how they came up with it, but it's mutations. They're saying it's mutations in over 100 genes. It's insane, all right.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

And so you wind up with peripheral sensory and muscle problems because it's peripheral nerves. So what are peripheral nerves? We have central nerves, which is the brain and spinal cord, peripheral nerves. So what are peripheral nerves? We have central nerves, which is the brain and spinal cord, and then when the spinal cord comes down, it's protected by bones called vertebrae, and each. So there are ones in the neck, in the chest and the lower, they're in the back and then over the back of the pelvis. Out of these vertebrae, on both sides, come nerves, sensory and motor. Sensory means they're going to pick up sensation or whatever, smell things, whatever they're doing, and motor means they're affecting our ability to move. Or well, actually that's a whole different system inside the body, but our internal, like our arterioles and our gut, the movement it goes through, it's dependent on the autonomic nervous system, which is a different system. So we're going to talk about that, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:10:45

So they say that it's not curable. But there is no. It they made it up, right. They call it the Charcot-Marie-Tooth syndrome. What the heck A syndrome is? What A syndrome is? Usually a cluster of symptoms and they call it a syndrome. And they may find out later and they do find out later that it's part of another.

Speaker 1: 1:11:10

There's no it. They make it up. There's no diabetes. That's a name. There's insulin resistance, which is an adaptive response by our cells in our body when they are getting too much glucose. That's diabetes type 2. There's no thing called diabetes. It's an adaptive physiological response, and all these are so, uh, whatever. So there is no cure. All right.

Speaker 1: 1:11:37

So first of all, I, I would with with you. I would uh, yeah, uh, lauren, I would uh, we, we need to have a discussion, I'd have to talk, but again, there's no such thing. It doesn't exist. So throw that word away, throw that name away. People are so happy when they get a diagnosis, as if that helped. Oh, I finally got diagnosed. I have they put a spell on you. There's no such thing as Charcot-Marie-Tooth syndrome.

Speaker 1: 1:12:09

So that's not what you're interested in. What you're interested in is restoring health, which is making sure that all of your biological needs are being met and you're not having any, which includes not getting things that you don't need, such as toxins, or too much of things that you don't need, such as toxins, or too much of things that you need, or not enough of things you need To your biological needs and psychological needs, since we're human. So once that's in gear, there's no adaptive responses required. And, yes, our body will adapt to the fact that we do have a genetic mutation, but these are rare. And how would a group of people like ALS you know Lou Gehrig's how would a group of people over time in different parts of the world get these kind of specific mutations? How did you get 100 mutations? And everybody else that has Charcot-Marie-Chastain syndrome have specific mutations that do this, and it can't be mutations. You had over 100 mutations and they're only affecting a small part of your peripheral nerves and it doesn't exist. So that's my perspective, lauren and I. You should join the groups. You join the health and healing group and we could chat weekly. So area other week uh, they see, hernandez Sorry for mentioning last name station I have CLL 13 gram oh, it's 13.

Speaker 1: 1:13:55

Q deletion and WBC 20. Wait, I think I need a magnifying glass. Oh, can I make it bigger? Yeah, I forgot, I'm in another world here. Yeah, I can make this bigger. Oh, no, it's not gonna. Let me make this bigger, I don't know, it's not going to. Let me make it bigger. Oh, it is Okay, there we go Great, look at that. All right, I have CLL 13Q deletion and WBCs are 257,000.

Speaker 1: 1:14:26

How can I treat holistically? What diet should I be on? What should I avoid? All right, so I'm not sure. Stacy, I remember someone last week had a question with a high white count, like that. What you need to do.

Speaker 1: 1:14:39

You have to understand, if you have 250,000 white blood cells per, what is it I forget the unit Milliliter, what is it? I forget the unit milliliter and a person who's functioning well, a healthy person, that the number will be anywhere from about four to 10. So if you've got that means and you understand, I think whatever we're talking to last week I was mentioning that you've got all these dysfunctional because these clones are not the healthy ones that you need, and remember that means your bone marrow is just pushing them out, so it's not going to be able to make as many red blood cells, so you'll be anemic. It's not going to be able to make as many platelets, so you could have a bleeding problem. And the white blood cells if you have 357,000 of this clone of lymphocytes, there's all the other white blood cells that don't have much of a chance either. So you're in a serious situation like this.

Speaker 1: 1:16:03

So you can do all the diets to maintain it and all that. But I would suggest at this moment that you get IPT, insulin-potentiated, low-cost chemotherapy just to bring it and all that. But I would suggest at this moment that you get ipt, insulin potentiated or post chemotherapy just to bring it down so that you can because I know you're getting in the it's it's the problem is not just the white all right and then bring it down. Why you're doing that. You'll start you a heavy detoxification. You've got to join our group, the CFC group, so.

Speaker 1: 1:16:30

But I mean what you need to do, though, stacey is what everybody needs to do with any particular dysfunction or loss of health, or people who haven't lost their health and they're in great health, but you want to keep it. And it's just like you change the oil in your car three to four times a year. You know it's health maintenance is doing that. We need to change the oil in our car and you do that by cleansing four times a year. But you start out with a major one and in your case you would do a major, which is a minimum of three weeks. That's not enough, but up to 12 weeks of fresh vegetable juices. Now I have that my. I think it's available on the An Oasis of Healing website, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:17:18

Celery, cucumber, kale, spinach, lemon and apples Make it delicious, but not any sweeter than what you put. Delicious, make it something you want to drink, not something you hamster, because you're going to be drinking it for and you can vary it up for quite a while and you don't want to get bored. But that's where you start and you get colon hydrotherapy. You've got to do all the things that we all need to do Balance hormones, balance your autonomic nervous system. Right, that means get more parasympathetic work and healing the gut begins with the juice. Cleanse, restore your bio, clean your colon, get lymphatic work, move around throughout the day and you also go to sleep early, latest 9 o'clock pm. Anyway, then you want to take vitamin C, vitamin D, e, melatonin and iodine and then balance your thyroid and balance your adrenals. By doing all of that and I said melatonin by doing all that, you're going to be whatever's going on Now, I don't know I leukemias and lymphomas, whatever viruses are, they're not biological.

Speaker 1: 1:18:37

I don't know what they are. They're they're. They could not have happened if we, if we, if we accept the definition of what a virus is. It could not have happened so. So it could not have happened. But whatever they are, they could easily be involved in disturbing in the bone marrow, disturbing and resulting. And I think that those are probably, and they might be, exosomes that have been produced I have no idea in the lab, so but I think they're involved somehow in most, if not all, leukemias and lymphomas.

Speaker 1: 1:19:18

Now, remember, it's not a biological thing, it's not alive. First of all, that's why you can't kill a virus. You can't kill viruses because they're not alive. It's insane. But you can be completely made impotent where they're unable to affect you and then eventually they See they're not alive. So that's why there's that old, ridiculous, stupid, absurd joke what's the difference between true love and herpes? Herpes lasts forever. I don't even know. First of all it's not even funny. Who would ever think of it? Whatever, it's ridiculous. But the reason they say that is because herpes it's a virus. They call it a virus. If the virus is not alive, you're not going to get rid of it. The whole virus thing I don't think we'll ever understand, but I'm pretty sure it is.

Speaker 1: 1:20:11

So if you go back to HTLV-1, that was a, was that a leukemia or lymphoma. In Japan, htlv was human T-cell lymphocytic virus into the lymphocytes One. They only called it one when they found two and three. And what was it? I think it was HTLV 2, 3, or 4. I can't remember. That was later called HIV. So we know that it affected lymphocytes the HTLV-1. We know that Burkett's lymphoma is associated with what they call Epstein-Barr virus.

Speaker 1: 1:20:55

Now, I don't know all the work they do in bio. I don't want to know. Yeah, I really don't want to know. I have enough knowledge and concern about what's going on, but fortunately I realize that I can't I couldn't do anything. I can't change what is. So that's what you need to do. You need to join the group because remember that if you join the cfc group, you have a lot of information available, a lot of content you're going to get you and I will have conversations twice a week directly and I can review labs. I can do all that sort of. I really recommend that if you can, but you've got to start with that.

Speaker 1: 1:21:35

You got to start with the cleansing because, remember, whatever you have, whatever they're calling it, they're just naming it due to the location in which it began, but it's still the same process going on of chronically fermenting cells. And cells only become chronically fermenting cells, by definition, if they're engaging in aerobic glycolysis, also known as the Warburg effect. If that's what they're doing, then they're called, in their words, cancer, in their words, cancer of whatever elbow, nose, liver, breast. That has to be doing that, that is what it is. All right. Now, how did it get that way? Because it's mitochondria were knocked down. How did that happen? Well, an accumulation of chronic toxicity knocked them out, and that toxicity could include the things that they call viruses, the things that they call parasites. So, so herpes is contained. Yeah, herpes is contagious. Well, as far as we know, right and because it means yeah. So, whatever this thing is, whether it is an engineered, um, exosome that somehow is released into the community, which they can do, believe me, these guys are very sure.

Speaker 1: 1:22:56

So, stacy, you start with cleansing and you've got to go to a biological dentist, and I would go to Emma of Ramayana in Glendale, california. You've got to. There's not, it's not. This is what you have to do. And then, but I then what I would do? I would do all that I just said plans, biological colonics, lymphatics, all that stuff, but I would also start with IPT. You wouldn't need a lot of treatments. It's one a week to bring you down to a range that's not going to be dangerous for you of your white blood cells, and they also intravenous vitamin C. There's a lot of things. Those owns all right. So our clinic is in Arizona and Oasis of healing and I should never have been a grammar freak, I should just call it Oasis of Healing so I put in, and so a lot of people don't put that in. When they're looking for it they can't find it. It's an Oasis of Healing in Arizona and we've been there for 20 years and you've got to move without growing it completely.

Speaker 1: 1:24:10

Other Thyroid I only have half left and I have been told it is completely non-functioning because of all the goiters. Can that be reversed? Yes, sure, now all the other goiters. So that means the half of the thyroid that you have left. The remaining half is full of goiters, so it's full of several large masses. So that's not enough information. This is the end. This is where we really need.

Speaker 1: 1:24:42

You've got to come on the Health and Healing Group or Parasite one of them, because I need to ask you questions, lots of questions. You know I need to know, are you on thyroid medication and is that half that's not there was surgically removed? I'm sure they have you on thyroid medication and they probably have you on Synthroid, which is synthetic T4, which is not what the thyroid makes. It makes a natural T4 and T3. But there's no doubt, no doubt at all, that your deficiency of iodine in the form of iodide, which is what the thyroid needs to make T4 and T3. Thyroid needs to make T4 and T3, because the 4 and the 3 refer to the number of iodides on the tyrosine molecule, which makes up T4 and T3. And since our T4 and T3, since all of us who are not eating a natural, traditional Japanese diet are going to be iod efficient unless you take and they get about thirteen, point eight, milligrams a day from the time they're young, so they've got plenty and you know the RDA is something like what? 150 micrograms. So so you know that's what started it off.

Speaker 1: 1:26:08

When they talk about the goiter belt in the United States, what they're talking about is an area in the middle of the country that is far enough away from both shores, both oceans, the Atlantic and the Pacific Pacific and the Atlantic that it is not getting the iodine from the sea and iodine. The cycle of iodine is that it comes up from the oceans, you know that, evaporates or whatever up into and it gets into the clouds and then it's raining, rain down on them and those go as far as you know, a thousand miles or so, oh, but there's less and less, less. So you get to the goiter belt where they don't do it, and then, when there's no iodine, you cannot make any thyroid and you get a goiter. What is a goiter? A goiter is a thyroid gland that's been like hammered.

Speaker 1: 1:27:00

Remember I talked about the hypothalamus, pituitary, thyroid. So what happens is the thyroid's not producing thyroid hormone, the hypothalamus. It's got a little laboratory in there and it's testing. There's no thyroid here. So it's telling the pituitary get that thyroid there working. So the pituitary sends out thyroid-stimulating hormone, tsh, and that goes to the thyroid. So the more cells that you have not producing any, your TSH is going to be really bad. So TSH is really high, but that means your T4 and T3, your thyroid hormones are low. So you're hypothyroid, hypo, hypo, not producing any.

Speaker 1: 1:27:46

So what's the answer? It should be clear now that you have an understanding. The answer is you need iodine and you get iodine in the Lugols. Lugols is a formula that's a combination of iodide, which is an ionic form of iodine, and iodine, which is I2, two iodines together and it's called molecular iodine and they both have significant functions in our body. So and the iodide is so you can take.

Speaker 1: 1:28:22

Now you're hypothyroid, so they would say, don't take iodine. Why shouldn't you take iodine if you're hypothyroid? Because iodine will suppress thyroid output. So if you had normal thyroid output you wouldn't want that. But if you have less thyroid output, you don't want that More. So what do you do, since you have to replace the iodine to solve the problem? How do you do it? You give the iodine and then you use the appropriate type of thyroid medication and yet may have to increase it for a while to keep you in a?

Speaker 1: 1:28:57

U thyroid which means healthy thyroid, healthy functioning thyroid state till the deficit of iodine has been filled. And that takes at least a year, a year and a half. So I would be uh, 25 milligrams a day of this is what I if. If I had a goiter, this is what I would do. I take 25 milligrams a day of iodine lugols l-u-g-o-l-s or you can get iodoral i-o-d-o-r-a-l, which is the exact same formula. You can get them in a pill form and take 25. You could get the uh liquid. Doesn't taste so good, uh, but the liquid's good. You can get that anyway. Put two drops on each breast. Um, are you, yeah, data, uh, on each breast, just a very good protection from it's, very good protection for, uh, uh, breast cfc's okay.

Speaker 1: 1:29:47

So now, oh, where were we? Okay, thyroid, I only have half of left and I have been told that it is completely non-functional because I have all the goiters. You see the way they word it. So you have all the goiters. Your thyroid is not functioning. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because you don't have adequate intake and never have of iodine. He developed goiters Because what is goiters?

Speaker 1: 1:30:17

That TSH coming from the pituitary which is taking its instructions from the hypothalamus, that TSH that goes to the thyroid and says make, make, make, make, make, make thyroid, make, thyroid. That's happening. So the thyroid gland is freaking out, trying to make it. There's no iodine, it can't. So what happens when anything works excessively? It gets bigger. It's called hypertrophy. So you get an enlarged heart, you can get an enlarged thyroid. You can get an enlarged liver, you can get them. That's all because it's working too hard.

Speaker 1: 1:30:49

Now, I mean a liver can have metastasis, but in general, if an organ is overworked, well, that's what the guys do at the gym. They go to the gym and overwork their muscles so they become hypertrophied. That's on purpose, so, anyway. So that's what happens with the goiter. That's how goiters develop. So it's not because of the goiter you don't have iodine. And that's how goiters develop. So it's not because of the goiter you don't have iodine. Because you don't have iodine, you don't have thyroid function. It's because you don't have enough iodine to make it. So anyway, you've got to stop seeing endocrinologists or whoever you're seeing. They have no idea what they're doing, no idea.

Speaker 1: 1:31:26

And of course, I'm committing one of the greatest crimes in the history of humanity. And I do this all the time, whenever I have a different, whenever I have. These are not opinions, this is not an opinion, this is just the way it is. So whenever I tell it the way it is and that happens to conflict with what is the story that they're telling us the medical provisionals then uh, that's a crime. So now you, you, because you have these goiters, you have half. I don't know what other medications are. I don't know anything.

Speaker 1: 1:32:03

So you gotta join the health and healing group. Let's talk about it. This is daniel. How, how do I enter the Zoom? You mean this. It's not Zoom. Oh, the Zoom meetings. Okay, the Zoom meetings. You've got to be a member of one of the groups. There are three groups in the inner circle there's the health and healing group, there's the parasite group and there's the CFC group. So that's what you do. So go to the website drlodicom, d-r-l-o-d-icom. You go there and you'll find very easy to find on the front page the groups and see which one you want to join. It's appropriate for you. That's how you do it.

Speaker 1: 1:32:46

This is topic is dental. Hi, dr Thomas, I was listening last week and dare I say, often you must first see the biological dentist. Why? I am 69.

Speaker 1: 1:33:02

I have had trouble my whole life with teeth, first full mouth of amalgam, then, as years pass, bridges, mouth of amalgam, then, as years pass, bridges, crowds, extractors and gum problems. It goes on and on. I cannot have fillings replaced, literally too big. Only way to have all out At this stage. I couldn't cope with paletes and C, letter C and meds. Also, no biological dentist in my city, not many true one in the UK. So I'm a mess because my teeth are a mess, I guess. Well, d, what I don't know is I'm not sure what you meant. You said I couldn't cope with all the Pilates and C Pilates. I'm not sure what you meant by that. So you guys have to join these groups. There's no biological. I know the UK is. There's a lot of things not available there, same in Europe.

Speaker 1: 1:34:05

So now, whatever other problems I mean it sounds like you're alluding to the fact that there are other problems going on. Whatever they are, they will never go away and they're going to get more profound and you'll get new ones if you don't take care of them. Now I don't know what to say. So when we say things like that you know, like if this is causing this to happen and we can't and won't deal with that, then what can we say? Now I don't know what's going on with you systemically at all. It may or may not be related, but it's really hard not for it not to be related and or causative.

Speaker 1: 1:34:50

So with very bad dentition, all that stuff. So if you have, if you had, extractions and amount of them, so they. So there are two kinds of classes of bacteria that live in, live in the mouth basically the anaerobic was live under the gums and they produce periodontal problems. You wind up losing teeth. And there's another group that live above the gum and they are aerobic. But those are the ones that cause what we call cavities, and the cavity in the dentists called caries, where it's a hole in the enamel somewhere.

Speaker 1: 1:35:33

And the microorganisms we have in our mouth and in our gut are there because we're feeding them. So, whatever your diet is, it's the diet that feeds these. Because if you suddenly have ants in your house, why are they there? They're eating, they found food. You don't have to kill them, just get rid of the food. So that's the way it is. And so if whatever dysbiosis you have is there, because that's the consequence of eating your diet, your diet not only has the consequence on your systemic functioning but also on the microorganisms that depend on your diet. So that's, these are big ones.

Speaker 1: 1:36:10

So you got to do your cleansing. You've got to do all that stuff too, but you especially when you had extractions, crowns, and it goes on and on, and the only way is to have all out. So you cannot be without teeth, edentulous, because that is a, I think who considers it a basically a handicap or whatever. Whatever the question is because literally you can't talk and you can't eat, so, um, but so that's why if you get in a situation where you have to have all your teeth down, then you've got to get some good dentures. You've got to because otherwise you're assured dementia number one.

Speaker 1: 1:36:57

I don't know what's going on in your mouth, but here's the thing what if you had I don't know a piece of uranium, a radioactive uranium, and you had some reason that you couldn't take it out? It's not going to stop the problem from happening. But yeah, you have to go to biological is there? Because the, the teeth are in the body and the teeth can harbor up to and they have connections to the brain, to the nerves, to the blood. So they're, you know, they're just whatever toxins are. It's just, it's just being distributed.

Speaker 1: 1:37:27

I don't know what to say, but you've got to find yourself a biological dentist, and I know money is always a problem. So what you could do is probably fly to the Philippines, to Manila, and see Dr Ebuen, e-b-u-e-n. She is a very good biological dentist and the reason I'm suggesting her instead of dr emma is because she is the philippines on their economic structure. It's just for any other country. It's considered extremely inexpensive. Extremely inexpensive because, remember, filipinos come to thailand to work because they get higher pay. Thailand is not considered a high income country, not a high paid country. So do Cambodia and Burma and Myanmar.

Speaker 1: 1:38:23

But yeah, so you've got to do it, or you don't have to do it and you just accept the consequences, but be aware of the consequences. There's no other answer. It would be like somebody who had lung CFCs and they said look, there's no way I'm going to quit smoking. All right, so now this is Karen. Oh, wow, it's 941. I got carried away. Oh, wait a minute, where are we? We've still got a few people hanging out.

Speaker 1: 1:38:55

I'm looking at the chat here and I see somebody recommending Dr Simon Yu. I love the guy. He's a magician, a wizard when it comes to the acupuncture meridian assessment for determining things. However, that's it. The problem is you go to him and he'll give you that very good advice, but he'll give you all kinds of other advice and sell you lots of stuff. So if you can just go and say I want to know about parasites, but he's amazing.

Speaker 1: 1:39:24

The acupuncture recommends that you start eating bone broth. I've been a vegetarian for eons concerned about feeding the wrong bacteria. So let me just show you something here, all right. So here, yeah, let me just tell you about if you're a vegetarian. So let me just tell you that, because I had this comes up with. A lot of alternative practitioners like acupuncturists and even naturopaths are push this, uh and uh, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:39:57

So, first of all, bone broth has, you know, arginine, glutamate, proline, alanine and glycine. These are amino acids that we need to have. It is not rich in minerals when made with just bones, but it has the protein and amino acids, uh, okay, so that your body needs to make collagen. Now let me just uh, I wish we, I wish we were on zoom because I could share this with you, but anyway. And so the fatty acid composition of bone marrow versus the blood plasma is that saturated fats are 43.2 plus or minus, and blood plasma is 37.7. The monounsaturated of bone marrow is 31, and blood plasma is 28. The polyunsaturated is 25.8, and the blood plasma is 33.4. So the total unsaturated is 56.8 in the bone marrow and 62.3 in the blood plasma, meaning you wouldn't be getting enough the palmitic acid anyways, go on Now.

Speaker 1: 1:41:15

Broccoli sprouts have aspartic acid, glutamic acid, serine, histidine, glycine. They've got all that at the pulmonary and more. And chia seeds have 18 amino acids, all of the nine essential amino acids, meaning we must eat them so that we can make the rest of our amino acids. And it's got nine of the non-essential, meaning our body makes them anyway, so they're not essential to eat All but two of the non-essential. Our body makes them anyway, so they're not essential to eat All but two of the non-essential, but it's got all of them. So there's nothing you're going to get in bone broth that you're not going to get. So this is based on some mythological idea that we sat around making bone, chewing on bones or making bone soup. I don't know. I'm not sure what it's made of. Anyway, you can get everything you can get. Look up all the details of what's in bone broth and then see what you need Anyway, paul parasites.

Speaker 1: 1:42:21

Hi Doc, I just saw a video clip on Facebook with you talking about blasting parasites and I was just asking my GP. The problem we have in Australia is that the therapeutic good administration are blocking ivermectin except as a skin cream, and I think it's a dollar or something we can't get either. Do you have any suggestions for Australians on how to get around the therapeutic good administration. Well, you know, my advice to Australians is to leave Australia, but you're not going to do that. That's also my advice to Americans, canadians, uk You're not going to do that. So you should, it would be, you should. I hate that. No one should ever say anybody should, but it is, uh, and I'm afraid, what you know. You know what happened during the great hoax of 2020 australia if it was. Anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:43:23

Ivermectin is given to 250 million people every year, annually. Onchoceriasis that's what I forgot. Onchoceriasis is also known as river blindness. And kids. You know the kids that are being exposed to this parasite. They have to take it for years because they're continually being infected. So I would consider that a pretty good clinical trial for both safety and efficacy, anyway.

Speaker 1: 1:43:53

So if your country is doing that, then you know they have an agenda that is other than your health and welfare. So that's where you want to stay. Then you have to be able to realize that. So how do we get it into Australia? Well, I don't know. I've got some people in our group. I think you should join the parasite group or the health and healing group, but if your concern is specifically about parasites, I was enjoying the parasite group and you're going to find that we have Australians that will be in the meetings and they've been down every road and how to get. They'll tell you how to do it. But another way is you just go somewhere, leave and go to a place where you can buy a tie of hand over the counter and then fly back with it, or I don't know. There must be other ways of getting it in. I'm sure there are ladies in our group is pretty well aware of doctors, holistic dentists, where to get supplements, how to get them in the country. Now she's pretty much aware. So I would join the group, not for me but for her.

Speaker 1: 1:45:02

Wait, where am I? Natasa is a breast cfc. Oh, I forgot, it's so late, it's 10 o'clock. Hi, from Bosnia, denmark. Three weeks ago I did it. You know what? Oh, yeah, okay, I'll do this one. Three weeks ago, dgbc. Hi, from Bosnia. Three weeks ago, dgbc, I did diagnosis breast CFCs Two centimeters with a small satellite Positive, her negative.

Speaker 1: 1:45:29

Two centimeters is a small satellite. Her positive, her negative? Oh, started by my own. 0.5 milligrams per kilogram Ivermectin 222 milligrams. No, no, 0.5 milligrams per kilogram of ivermectin, 222 milligrams of fenvenazole, plus six drops of 1% methylene blue plus change of diet. They wanted to operate me. But since I was complaining on my back pain, that accident. In conclusion, because of my context meta in the bone diffuse edema inside of one vertebra. Context meta in the bone diffuse edema in one vertebra doesn't make any sense with osteolysis and microfection. I am sure that it is not. Meta all other organs not active on pet.

Speaker 1: 1:46:27

Now I'm waiting for bone biopsy. You don't need to get a bone. There's nothing else it could be. I promise you. And remember biopsies make things spread. You don't need a biopsy. Jesus, all right, you had a two centimeter mass that they either took out, which they should have.

Speaker 1: 1:46:50

If you're going to do a biopsy, do an excisional biopsy instead of. But you don't even need a biopsy to anyway. You do what you need to do anyway. What you need to do is you need to clean out your body first. The same things. This is everybody's thing. You gotta go to biological dentist who is real. You've got to go to a biological dentist who is real. You've got to do a thorough cleanse, minimum three weeks, up to 12, 16 weeks, juice cleanse, and you need to. After the cleanse, you start eating only human food. You eat it within a six-hour window. You stop eating five hours before you go to sleep. You move around all day. You drink enough water or equivalent, which is fresh juices of three liters a day to stay well hydrated, and you learn to turn the mind off, which is called meditation. Very important and very important. Stop using those words. And very important, stop using those words.

Speaker 1: 1:47:56

Whatever they said, you have, you don't have a ER positive, er negative. You know, er positive means 1% of all the cells are staining when they put a certain stain on it. For having an increased number of nucleoli, which is just stuff in the nucleus, an increased number of nucleoli, which is just stuff in the nucleus, with the implication that it is in the nucleus where the DNA is dividing. So it's over, it's growing quickly 1%. But you accept that and say okay, so you're going to do everything you can get to take. Make sure you get estriol, which is a instead of estrone, or estriol which binds to the estrogen receptor beta, er beta, which shrinks tumors, and so does soy in all of its forms, and flax seeds.

Speaker 1: 1:48:41

There are other things. Well, there's a big one. This is how you should deal with it and you don't need a biopsy in the moment For what. You don't need a biopsy in the moment For what? I'm sure they've already told you that since you've got this mass and it's ER powder, we've got to do whatever they want to do. If they want to do surgery, I'm sure they want to do surgery, chemo or radiation, and radiation which will definitely ensure that you will get metastasis and won't survive if you do what they say. What they need to start doing these guys is, instead of saying you, if you don't do what I'm saying, you're going to die in five months, what they should start saying is that if you do what I say, you're going to die, but they won't.

Speaker 1: 1:49:30

Anyway, please join our health, join our CFC group quickly. Keep your breast, get started on a cleanse, find a biological dentist and if you have to fly somewhere, fly somewhere to go. Come to the US. I know a great guy in, so his name is I don't know what to find. Oh, this is this is not charged. Join the group.

Speaker 1: 1:49:56

What's his name? Oh, maybe. Oh, it's Dr Jose. I mean, that's a pretty common name, so I don't know how to connect you with him. He's in Spain. I can't give his phone number out, but he's an excellent guy, so I would go see him. Dr Jose, I'm going to have to get more information for you, because that's really not enough of information. Right, he's in Spain, his name is Jose. Dr Jose, that's like saying he's in the United States is Dr Smith, oh, ok. So anyway, I apologize for that and I wonder if I could. You've got to join the CFC group, okay, all right, jose, I don't know how to connect in this broad public platform, but I could in the groups. So anyway, I just can't do that Without his permission. I'll ask him. Yeah, maybe he'll say sure, okay, that'd be great. I'll ask him and I'll report back the next Sunday and my staff, whoever's on, is going to help remember that. Anyway, all right, you guys, it is like wowly Say swadika, namaste, namaskar and Aloha. Where are we there? We are, thank you, thank you.