Episode 167 - 10.05.25 Stop Saying Cancer and Start Healing: Why Words, Food, and Targeted Antimicrobials Matter

What if the most dangerous thing about a diagnosis isn’t the biology—it’s the language? We ditch fatal labels, explain why PSA and other single numbers don’t tell the whole story, and rebuild a saner roadmap for healing that starts with physiology: cells under toxic load switch to fermentation, and the job is to restore oxygen, balance, and flow. Along the way, we get practical about what actually moves the needle: eating real human food on a smart clock, protecting the microbiome, and using targeted, evidence‑backed tools without losing the big picture.

We dig into repurposed medicines—ivermectin, fenbendazole/mebendazole, niclosamide, praziquantel, nitazoxanide—and how they can reduce parasite/protozoa burden and intersect CFC pathways like WNT/TCF, Hippo, and microtubules. You’ll hear peer‑reviewed findings on prostate and colorectal lines, plus why some agents shift gut flora while others don’t, and how to guard the microbiome with diet, pre‑/probiotics, and liver support. We also connect chronic sinusitis to oral health and biological dentistry, explore iron strategies that favor bone marrow when anemia hits, and outline simple routines—movement, sleep timing, breath, and light—that make your immune and endocrine systems more efficient.

This conversation stays grounded in real cases and clear steps: broad lab context beyond PSA, practical cycling of medications, and terrain‑first tactics for leaky gut, H. pylori, and even lichen planus. The theme is consistent: health is continuous healing. When we choose better words, better inputs, and better rhythms, we give biology a chance to do what it’s designed to do.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open: Surveillance and Setup
• 2:05 Format, Time Zones, and Group Structure
• 3:55 Why Live Groups Beat One‑Way Q&A
• 5:59 Health & Healing: Movement, Nutrition, Lifestyle
• 8:31 CFC Framework: Language, Mindset, Emotions
• 13:27 Human Diet Series: Research and Myths
• 14:29 PSA Anxiety, Words That Harm, and Real Markers
• 20:09 “Deworming” Reframed: Multi‑Pathway Antimicrobials
• 26:20 Parasites, Protozoa, and Clinical Stories
• 30:43 Protocol Lengths, Dentists, Cleanses, Essentials
• 34:38 Probiotics, Microbiome, and Drug Impacts
• 41:06 Ivermectin: Safety, Scope, and Mechanisms
• 47:46 Benzimidazoles, Niclosamide, and Dysbiosis
• 53:22 Defining Dysbiosis and Protecting the Biome
• 55:46 Chronic Sinusitis and Oral‑Sinus Link
• 1:00:42 Mortality Data and Why Strategies Fail
• 1:03:30 Prostate Case: Lupron, Radiation, and Evidence
• 1:11:36 Reclaiming Testosterone and Quality of Life
• 1:15:26 Mysterious Pain: Differential Thinking
• 1:21:38 Primary Care Ask: Building Cost‑Aware Protocols
• 1:28:39 Iron, Transfusions, and Oasis Care Path

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:47

So good evening. I wonder if you're all um just just a quick side side thing here. It's a minor thing uh that the whole world is coming under surveillance. It's just a minor minor thing that shouldn't disturb your more your evening uh at all. But yeah, just let's keep that in mind. On the side, nothing to think, I mean, nothing to worry about it. Uh digital ID, it's just a just a conspiracy theory. We don't talk about conspiracy theory. All right, let's talk about important stuff. Okay, so anyway, welcome everyone, and we're gonna go through the usual stuff, and that is to remind you all that this Sunday Night Live is Eastern Standard Time is what 8 p.m. It's 5 p.m. in Arizona, and I don't know if it's daylight savings or anything, so I always focus on that because it has doesn't change the clock. So we're gonna say 5 p.m. Arizona. So wherever you are in the east or Europe or wherever, you can go from there. I don't Hawaii doesn't change its time either. I think only two states, or maybe there's more. Anyway, so that's um what we use, and we are on portrait. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

unknown: 1:59

God, there we go. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:02

So um, and anyway, so it's every Sunday night, and the the format here is where you ever people have sent in questions, right? And so we're gonna deal with as many as we can, and then um, but the problem with this format is and and we you know we've been doing it for years now, so I we don't want to stop, but it's that it doesn't allow interaction, it doesn't allow me to clarify what it is you're asking, and you know, so I can really help you because I know what you're probably asking is may not even be reflected in the way you asked it. And so, you know, and we so I I usually if we were together, I would be asking some other questions to kind of direct both you and me into figuring out what it is that really needs to be answered. So, anyway, we don't have that ability to interact. So we have these groups that serve many purposes, and that's one of them. And that is we have our weekly Zoom meetings where we interact, and the questions are spontaneous, live on the in the moment, and uh and and we can and uh I can dig deeper and we can have a we can have a discussion. So it's very good. And we do this um a few times a week, depending on the group you're in. And I'm just adjusting this issue. Okay, so all right, and um, so the health and healing group, uh, where we do we talk about uh things related to health and healing, keeping in mind that the word heal is the foundation of the word health. And uh so health is the ability to continually heal every picosecond, nanosecond. And in that group we meet every other week, but you also have access to uh our kinesiologist, our kinesiologist who's uh muscle-centric um and looks at uh movement and muscles and very um bright guy that really knows what what what what he's doing with uh physiology and kinesiology and its effect on health. I mean, you know, just walking up the stairs for 70 seconds will increase your natural killer cells sixfold. That's a good thing to know. Really good thing to know. Um anyway, so um, and then you have uh uh uh uh access to Vanessa, who is uh a nutritionist, health coach, yoga instructor, meditation coach, biologist. Uh she's got uh she's been living this way for many years, and so she teaches a whole lot of stuff. So you have her one week and then you have Darren the next week, the kinesiologist. And then every other week you have Donna, who's been eating uncooked plant food for 37 years, and so she's got a quite a few things to say about that and to teach us all. Um, so all that's really important. And then if you're in the CFC group, which is what some people refer to as cancer, um, mistakenly, um refer to it, it's really chronically fermented cells, CFC's chronically fermenting cells. Um you have access to Kathy. And Kathy is a psychotherapist who is um helps um people with who've been cursed with the word diagnosis, who've been cursed, um to look at the whole thing and put put up put aside all the intellect and all that, and let's just talk about how we feel, how this is affecting us, and um how can we how can we um improve that? Because if we can the way you feel is everything. It's everything. If you feel horrible, that everything's horrible. If you feel fantastic, everything's fantastic. So knowing how we feel and working with it, respecting it, um, uh and developing methodologies for keeping ourselves from uh diving too deep and falling too deep into holes um is uh very important. In fact, it may be the most important attitude. So in fact, it it just turns out that it really is. It really is. So dealing with our emotions, um understanding them, putting them in perspective, um all that is very important. And so that's all you also have access to that if you're joining the CFC group. And so the CFC group would meet uh twice a week with with with me and soon, plus all those other people we discussed, uh as well as there's a lot of material, a lot of things to read, a lot of uh programs, protocols, and then the parasite group, which is uh like the health and healing every other week, except the parasite group also has membership in the health and healing group. So the parasite actually gets to uh meet every Monday. Anyway, it's worth it, it's worth it, and um, and plus everybody on these groups are all geniuses, it's crazy. Everybody's knows their stuff, everybody. So it's not just me, the other uh professionals in the area of uh Kathy and Darren and Vanessa and Donna, but uh there's also all these other people amazing in the groups. You gotta do it. So now the part four of the human diet. Remember, you may or not first part was nature's design, the second part was called Cooked Food is poison. The third part will be what was what does the research say? And we went over that uh in detail. What does the research say? It's really nice you got an opinion, but what does the research say? And then uh episode four exposing the myths, what oxalates are bad, don't eat spinach, wrong. Oh, all the nonsense, you know, seed oils are terrible, are they? Anyway, let's let's get into that. So that'll be October 23rd, 8 p.m. Eastern. Okay. October 23rd, 8 p.m. Eastern. Till we get into some questions. Okay, all right. So this is from Ray. And Ray's asking, do you the word what is missing there? What do you recommend for high levels of PSA prostate CFC screening advice on the deworming protocol three times a day for three weeks? If not, what do you suggest and how long should deworming be after four weeks? Should it be repeated? Okay, Ray.

unknown: 8:04

Turn off this.

SPEAKER_01: 8:05

Ray. Let's let Ray, first of all, we gotta help you linguistically here because you're you hurt yourself. You are hurting yourself, okay? You you stop if you if you if you want to really do well and and and and and I know you do, I know you want to get back to health, then stop using the as an astrological sign to refer to whatever's going on with your prostate. Okay, you don't have cancer, Leo, Gemini, Sagittarius, Capricorn in your prostate, I promise you. Okay, what you might have is chronically fermenting cells. That's what you might have. Okay, you don't have this other thing. Don't use that word because that word's deadly. That word tells you you're gonna die. Do you want to keep telling yourself you're gonna die? Do you want other people to say, hey, uh, how's your your death march? Do you want people to say that to you? Stop using the word. The word is deaf. Stop using the word. Okay, words are important. I love you has a little different impact than I hate you. All right, these words are important, all right. So stop using that word. I don't know why you all still use this word. Well, why? I mean, we've been talking about this for how long? Why do you keep going up in this morning and say, I'm gonna die? Don't say it. Don't say I'm gonna live, and I am living, and I'm gonna continue, and I'm gonna find a way to live even better. That's what our focus should be on. So stop using that word, all right? Um and high levels of PSA. Um, again, so you're so it's with Rocky, Rocky is his gang, you know, Rockefeller uh and his gang. Um, have you focused on this number and and and astrology, this number of your prostate and astrology? They've got you completely off track because where you need to be focused is uh on that road to paradise called health. That's where you're going. That's where we're all going. Okay, so anyway, your PSA. So high PSA, low PSA, and people treat PSAs, people treat CA 125s, if people treat uh CA15-3s, people treat CEAs, and the word treat again is saying you're gonna fix something that's broken. Okay, so let's re throw all this away and say what's going on. Okay, so in your situation, you've got a prostate, your gland is prop as uh some of the cells have become chronically fermenting because they had to. They they were they lost their um ability to use oxygen, right? And they how that happened because of accumulated toxicities. That's it. It's not another reason, not not another reason. No, not another reason. No, not another reason. Did I say that already? Yeah, yeah. There's not another reason. Okay, so um is uh reflective of what's going on, is a PSA can go up with prosthetic uh specific antigen, but there are other uh other things that change as well. But more than that, we look at other markers like uh l LDH, uh, ferritin iron ratio, uh, thymodine kinase, your uh uh neutrophil to lymphocyte uh ratio. There's a lot of things to look at. You don't just look at one thing and get stuck on it. Now, what does that have to do with the deworming? And and and and please let's not even that's what they they kinest gangs want you to use words like that deworming protocol. They don't have a deworming protocol. Okay, what we have is these are medications, ivermectin fenbendazole, uh mebendazole or uh albazole, any of the benzamidazols, uh niclosomide, prosequantal, these are antihelminthics, right? Uh which are worms, and uh then there's the nitazoxinide, uh which is linia, and metronidazole and tinnidazole, which are antiprotozoles, and then there are the antifungals like uh fluconazole, etriconazole. So those are the different medications that are used to help someone who's got a you know a real disruption in their uh in the in the in their microbiology, and I'll I'll clarify that in a second. So um let's not call it dewarming. So what it as it but here's what it turns out as we've learned, and and I think all this came to light with Joe Tippins, right, when he was uh told to go home and get his affairs in order is a ridiculous thing to tell someone. And uh if someone tells you that you should either you have someone else punch them. I'm not advocating violence, no, okay. I'm just saying if somebody talks to you that way, just walk out. Don't you be with people that are gonna talk that way. Okay, get your affairs in order. Well, that's what you're doing. That's aren't we all doing that with our lives? Aren't we trying to get our affairs in order all the time? I'm getting my affairs in order. It's it's a ridiculous phrase. Don't use their words, don't use their idioms, don't use their acronyms, don't use them because then you are stuck in their world. They already, it's their video game, they made the video game. All right, you don't want to be good at their video game, you want to be like me. I don't even know what is the what how do I what is as it turns out, these parasites, worms, and protozo are involved in um can be considered part of the toxic profile that causes cells not to be able to use oxygen and have to convert to uh a fermentative metabolism and become chronically fermenting cells, aka um um Sagittarius Capricorn. So they can be involved in that, right? And therefore, by eliminating them or reducing their numbers significantly, the whole process can be um can be stopped. And that's what we saw with Joe Tippin. So he was told to go home, and when he went home, he um took some febazole, and um that was 2018, right? He's still around, he's doing fine. So uh, you know, he had what 92 tumors. So as it turns out, it not only eliminates the and the protozoa, these medications, but they also turn off the specific pathways that are need to be active in order for CFCs to function. They're part of the pathways out, it's part of the uh mechanisms by which they function that also directly affects them. So I don't consider it a dewormer or a de-protozoole. I uh it has many different uh actions, right, with with prostate and and uh we had a lady in our prostate group. Um, she joined for a little while, then left. She really just joined to show us the uh a presentation that she had made with regards to her father, um, who had um an enlarged prostate and had some chronically fermenting cells, and she put him on um the ones we're talking about, you know, the the different um anti-helmetics. Um and God, I think it was in two or three weeks worms started coming out of his penis. And uh it, I mean, when she showed us pictures, and it was crazy. I mean, and then in a bathroom where you know, where the whole floor is tiled, and there was a bathtub over here in the in the bathtub, there was like this long worms crawling. It was crazy, just crazy. But they continued this for about six months or so, or I think even beyond that. And then they had maybe it was beyond the year. I'm gonna see if I can find that and I'll get back to you. But I think it was quite a while, at least at least a year or more. Um, but the prostate was back to normal. So, so the question is how long does it take? As long as it takes, and we don't know. Every person has a different burden of of what's going on and different other toxicities. Remember, it's not just that. Also, what how you're gone to a biological dentist? Have you no, how's your front, upper teeth in your front, lower teeth in the front? Huh? Because those are related to the prostate. If you had those, have you had a 3D cone beam CT to find out if that's if they've got any problems in there? You should, or anywhere in your mouth. Okay, that has to be taken care of. Have you done a cleanse? Have you done colon hydrotherapy? Are you taking you're making sure you're maxing out on the the amount of as scorbate, also known as vitamin C in your body because it's an essential nutrient to life? And you're how about vitamin D? And so vitamin D, A, there's a lot of things, melatonin, going to sleep, bro. There's a lot of things you could be doing, okay? And I don't want you to get hung up on the um on these medications for that are anti-helmethics and anti-crotozoles, okay. They're they're and we should do them, absolutely, but that's not it. That you can't just focus on that. So I hope, Ray, that you've you've the whole picture. And what would be really good if you could join the um CFC group, chronically fermenting cell group, go to drlood.com, drlodi.com, drlodi.com, get on there, and you can find right away. It'll give you an opportunity to set up for those groups. You sign up for that, you'll get a basic program which will include everything that we're talking about, not including the warm, the the deworming protocol. But you're not doing it to deworm necessarily, you're doing it for multiple reasons. So um, but join that and then and then and then we'll be meeting twice a week. And you can ask questions, we can talk directly. But you'll get all this material and what what do specifically, how do how do what do I where do I start? What do I do? Okay, and then you've got a hundred like friends right right away. You have a hundred friends who don't want anything from you but your health. They don't want to take your health, they want you to keep it. Okay, let's go to the next person. This is CP, and she's uh hello. I'm a member of the parasite group. Uh, before I start the program, I'd like to know what the medications do to the friendly gut colon bacteria. Should I be concerned that they are dying off as well? Should I be taking a probiotic with the program weeks off or after? Right. Actually, uh, you know, very good question because um what we should all realize is that well, first of all, we've got just in our gut, and we're talking about, I guess we're talking about below the below the for the stomach and below. It's hard to know uh if we're talking about all the esophagus as well, but we definitely separate the oral uh microbiome from the gut or gastrointestinal microbiome or microbiota. So we separate those and the the big physical barriers for the um uh between the oral and the gut are bile produced in the liver, okay, because bile is very destroys organisms, right? Because by the very nature of bile is a uh they call them bile salts because at one end it's like a salt, it's um water soluble, what you know, hydrophilic, as they call it. And then the other end is lipid soluble, right? And that's the definition of a soap, that's what a soap is. And so what it does is very easily disrupts membranes and destroys things. So the so that will be kind of a barrier for the for them to go back and forth between the oral cavity and the gut. The other one is the pH of the stomach, all right. So the pH of the stomach in a healthy stomach is 1.5 or two uh around there, and uh, so that's that's that's pretty toxic. Now, lions and other uh carnivores uh will have pH is below one, so really nothing's they're they're pretty sterile around there, yeah. Nothing's gonna make it at that pH. So um, anyway, so these microorganisms that are in our there, and then we also have a nasal microbiome. We have you know it's in our ears, external ears, rectal, vaginal, you know. Um, and there's crosstalk between them all, and then on our skin, they're all over our skin. We've got thousands of species on on our skin and our hair, just everywhere. Because why? Because they're necessary for life, they're necessary to be alive. Without them, we're not alive. Okay, so they're not germs, they're the soil in which we are growing and living. Okay, so anyway, so they they get obviously the ones that are now now we're and every organism is where it is because it's able to eat, however, they do it, whether it's however they're eating, they're eating. They're taking in something from the environment and using it to produce uh to replace parts and to produce energy. That's what eating and nutrition is all about. All right. So if you've got ants in your house, it's because they found something to eat. So rather than kill those ants, which will take you can never get done, you'll never get done, unless you kill yourself too, you know, and all your pets will die if you really poison them significantly. You just take away the food, they're not there anymore. Very simple, non-military. This is the same thing here in our gut. Whatever different ratios of different populations of microorganisms that are in our gut are there because of uh this ratio of different populations shows you the the different degrees to which they like the food we're feeding them, and what food are we feeding them? The same food that we're feeding ourselves. So, whatever you're eating, you're going to uh be feeding to your microorganisms. And if they can if they can survive on it, they'll stay, if they won't. Right? So that's how you wind up with your your biosis, your your microbiota. So um, so therefore, everything we put in our mouth, so even if we drink something uh or eat something that's um that's toxic, it's gonna affect them. And all medications are toxic. All medications to get their approval by the Fraud and Death Association have to have what's called an LD50, which is the lethal dose that was 50% of the um people taking it will die. It's called the LD50. You have to know what the LD50 is of a drug. So all medications are harmful, toxic to some degree, so they're going to affect the gut microbiome. We have to understand that coffee will affect it, apples will affect it, cheese will affect it, everything we put in our mouth will affect it. So that's just a given, okay? But so uh, so but but you you and your question here is specifically for, and I'm sure a lot of you have the same question. So if I'm taking the ibermectin, I'm taking the fen benzool or midazolone, I'm taking the glycosomide, what's it doing to my gut microbiome? It should I be taking uh probiotics? And so the answer is whatever you put in there, whatever drug or substance you put in there, the answer is yes, you should be taking act, take probiotics because whatever we're living in, whatever we're doing with our lives, we're getting exposed in one way or another through to toxins. Even things that get into our on our skin, just like a topical medication, will go through the skin and get picked up by plasma proteins and carried around. Uh, may or may not get into the gut, but you know, but so but everything is is is has access, is has one way or another, it can get can gain access. So for that reason, we want to be taking probiotics and prebiotics, yeah, uh continually, right? But also, and then the real prebiotic is the way you eat. And then if you're eating food, that's whatever food you eat, you gotta figure out what the food you're eating, what group of microorganisms will that uh entice to hang out. But so, anyways, but but the ivermectin ivermectin is it's from a group of they call avramectins. Um, and it was basically uh you know discovered in 1970, right? In the soil, and it comes from an organism called Streptomyces abermittee or something. Which abermectin. And uh so in 1970 it is discovered, 1981 they introduced it to the veterinary world, and uh it was amazing the the effects. Um, I mean, the the the parasites that that it eliminated, right? So when it first was introduced uh medicament into human medicine, um it was for onchorysis, which is what's the common name for it? Um river blindness, yeah. It's called river blindness because there's a parasite in the river that gets into the body, and um that's what happens. So about 250,300 million people worldwide are uh afflicted with this onkopsoriasis and are taking iramectin for years, children, adults, and older people. So, in terms of safety, it's got a good good clinical trial there. Um, however, it does cause um problem with the microbiota. Now, it in of in and of itself does not affect humans or you know, other mammals because it only affects the uh uh invertebrates, single-cell organism, because it the thing that it blocks we don't have. You know, it blocks the glutamate chloride-gated channels, which we don't have, so it doesn't affect us. But to the little guys there, it it it's uh it's uh fatal. All right, and uh, but I mean it's it's well tolerated. They've tested it with giving people up to 10 times higher than the FDA um recommends as a dosage, which is 0.2 milligrams per kilo, right? So if you figure that out, you figure out how many kilos are 0.2 milligrams, and they went 10 times above that, and it still wasn't dangerous to the person, to people, right? Okay, that's good. Uh and and so I've remembered you take it within five hours, it's at its peak, it gets out of the body in about 20, 24 hours. Um, these are called pharmacokharmacokinetics. Um and so other than it's eliminated in the feces, and there's it's eliminated in the feces, which is why we know that it requires the liver to detoxify. So when the liver detoxifies something, it goes into the feces. Otherwise, it'll be managed by the kidneys. The kidneys will eliminate. But in this case, the you know, and most of the uh antiparasitics are eliminated by uh the liver and um wind up in the feces. All right. Turns out that it not only so so with humans, uh not only the uh oncosoriasis, the river blindness, but you know, but also the uh I I don't know, you've you've you've heard of the lymphatic phyloriasis, which is elephantitis, really devastating condition. Um that strongloides, which is those really disgusting parasites that crawl through your ankles and wind up in your lungs and your gut, it's pretty disgusting. And uh, you know, all these really horrible ones, ivermectin is effective against. Well, even scabies, which you know, if you've ever seen people with scabies, it's a horrible condition. They itch is you know, when people are uh itching from scabies, they forget anything, they can't do anything else, they've got to just sit there and scratch. It's a horrible condition. Anyway, it takes care of that as well, the other things. It also turns out that it works with bacteria. So in the methylin resistant staph, which you know, MSMSSR, you know, people are all MRSA, methylin resistant step aureus, right? Staph aureus, and then there's methyl sensitive staph aureus. So there's two kinds of stephia, it gets both of them, so it's in that regard, it's good. Um, it's also been used with mycobat with TB, and it's been used with um chlamydia, and you know, to chlamydia is um a protozoa that men pass to women, and uh so it's also effective against them as well. So it's got a far reach, but also, as you might have guessed, it's also gonna change your relative proportions of the populations of microorganisms that you have, and it will do that, and so um, yes, so might it will have an effect on that, all right? So you've got to be aware of that, and you are um, and so you want to take probiotics or prebiotics, yes. Um, now the uh you know, other thing we want to let you know that iromectin also eliminates CFC stem cells, right? So that it can spread. This stops that. It also turns off many other mechanisms, um, CFCs, I mean a lot of different mechanisms by which so it eliminates CFCs and eliminates CFC stem cells in addition to all that. So it's not like something you want to avoid because of the effect on my microbiota. No, I want to make sure that I can maintain a healthy microbiota by eating right eating human food. And if you don't know what that is, watch these the human diet webinars coming. Uh the fourth one. Um, and go back and watch the uh first three parts. They've been recorded. All right, so um, but you know, in veterinary medicine, they give it uh they can give it I they can give ibermectin IV or subcutaneously. Um and they do this with all sorts of animals, they do it with chichillas, they do it with horses, they do it with lions, they you know, so but uh and I'm you know I don't even know if there's a place that we can get IV for humans, but anyway, you're not gonna consider giving yourself IV ivermectin, you're gonna take it orally, and so if you're taking it orally, you want to make sure you're getting probiotics. Now, the other the other antihelmetics, like the benzamidazols, mobendazole and fembendazole, don't seem to have an effect on the gut, and a significant effect on the gut. They don't, right? Um, and uh the uh excuse me, in fact, in fact, um, in certain animals, the benzamidazols are used to treat uh giardiaces and cryptosporodias sporo sporodiasis because it they're micro, I mean these are protozoa, and these protozoa are single-celled organisms, and they cause all kinds of problems. You all know about giardia and uh diarrhea, and the you know, cryptosporodiosis is nasty as well. So, but but animals get them as well, and they find that it works with them, all right. Um, it works that so it doesn't seem to affect the overall relative proportions, so the both fed bentosol and nebendazol, okay? It's pretty cool. Um, another one nyclosamide that we use a lot of is uh uh again has no effect on the microbiota, which is great. It's even used to treat C. defacil. So anyone who's been around hospitals gonna know what C. defacil is, it's a bacteria that arises in an environment where someone's been on antibiotics, and the antibiotics have eliminated a lot of the healthy gut bacteria. And when that happens, this C. deficil, Clostridia deficil, or the C diff, it's called in the hospitals. They don't want to say the full word because you don't say the if you if you're if you're if you're a if you're a nurse or a doctor or even an x ray taker or anybody, you're gonna call it C diff, right? Because you're cool. So C diff, um Doesn't arise anything that can be used, you can treat it with uh niclosamite, so that's pretty cool, right? So you got the benzamidazols, the niclosamite, and also it turns out Project does not cause any major shifts. That's pretty cool. I like that, right? And you know, how how would we how would we define dysbiosis? Well, I think a way of looking at it is it's when the gut microbiota something produces an imbalance in the populations of the microorganisms that coexist within the GI tract. Okay, and this can be humans and animals, which directly affects their immunophysiology, their metabolic and structural and neurological function. Well, that's pretty far reaching. If we're talking about immunologic, immunophysiological, your immunology, your immune system, your metabolic, which is metabolizing, you know, glucose and amino acids and all that sort of thing, structural in building cells and neurological, and we're talking about everything. That's what's affected when you affect the gut microbiome. So is it important to protect them? Yes. And in fact, if you had a completely healthy, appropriately proportioned gut microbiome, you would be in healthy. So, anyway, so that's that with the them. So, yeah, but I eat healthy, eat, eat, eat the way we always discuss, right? Eat in a four to six hour window, stop eating four to five hours before sleep, uh, eat only uh human food. You got it. Now you're also gonna be taking care of your gut microbiome completely. Now, in addition, you'll take take uh my uh probiotics and prebiotics if you're on certain medications.

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Okay.

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Next question is Virginia, detox. Will this help with chronic sinusitis? So done with antibiotics. Well, great Virginia, yeah. I mean, good, good, because the antibiotics aren't gonna work. Uh, but if you've got a chronic sinusitis, I would say uh, you know, detox and cleanse are very important, but I would get over to a biological dentist right away, certified by the IAOMT, certified, not just a member. And uh, because the sinuses are right there, sitting on top of our the roots of our upper teeth, right? So uh wait, let me get rid of this here. I don't like this one here. Wait, oh there we are. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So here we are. We don't need this one either. Let me get rid of that. Cool.

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All right.

SPEAKER_01: 33:47

So yeah, Virginia. So it's not even often, I would have to say it's I don't know, I don't know how close it is between 99 and 100, but your oral health in your sinuses. So you you've got you've got to do that. And that'll really, really, really help. And it's surprising. Uh, but make sure I A O M T um it's a certifying agency uh that looks at, you know, um International Alliance of or International Association of Medical Toxicology. Right? And you know, basically um they train dentists and get them certified in using safe techniques, using only biocompatible materials, and uh, you know, not doing procedures that will cause problems, such as root canals, etc. Uh, and if you have them, how to how to remove them safely and and effectively and all that. So it's and that's and and the relationship between the sinuses is right there, just right there. The sinuses are just cavities in the uh skull, um, and um are like caves in the cell, in the in the skull, and that and the roots of the teeth come right up near there. So if the any anything, there's a lot of crosstalk communication um going on there, all right. So you gotta do that, and then of course the cleansing is always if you do a good thorough cleanse, which you have to do now, and then you need to reestablish your microbiome because if you've been on antibiotics, so not only is your gut microbiome destroyed, but also your oral microbiome and your nasal microbiome. And so you're gonna have a really, you know, different microorganisms where you in in places you don't want them, and the ones that you do want will not will not be in sufficient numbers, right? So you wind up with all this dysbiosis, and it's it's gonna have a tremendous effect on you. So uh yeah, you're on the absolute right track, and I'm glad you're done with antibiotics because you've got to realize after a while, these have to they're not working, they just don't work. And what's the word telling? It's very telling to note that when we look over 60, 70 years, the past 60, 70 years, at the mortality rates from cardiovascular conditions, you know, heart attacks, etc., uh, they've come down significantly. And the same with cerebrovascular events, the two that haven't changed in 60 years, 70 years. And this is CDC data, this is not uh loady data, this is CDC data, and uh and that is infectious conditions and number two CFCs mortality has not changed. So not me, they are telling you. And if we had if we were all on Zoom right now, I could share the screen and I could show you the data from them. So the point is that the reason that these are not the reason these two areas have not changed is because the efforts to resolve these issues are like I said, you have ants in your house, you you can spray all kinds of stuff, but if you don't take away the food, they're gonna find a way. And if not them, some other guys that you don't like. Anyway, um, so that's why. So that's so we're uh we're shooting at the ants, and we've got hand grenades and we've got even uh uh hydrogen bombs to get rid of these ants, but they keep showing up. All right, anyway, all right, so here we are. Um uh now we're going for Jim. Jim again, Jim is just like what's his name? Ray, you guys like this word. Come on, Jim and Ray. You guys have to realize that you I in fact, anyway, do me a favor and realize that uh so Jim, so realize something. So prostate CFCs. Um now they're not, it's it's not, it's not uh, it's not a uh what do you call it? It's not an astrological sign. I'm not gonna go through that again because I hope you were listening earlier. All right, now so what you're saying is since 2022, you've had 26 rounds of radiation, six rounds of chemo, another five rounds of radiation to lymph nodes. I've also been on Lupron for years. What a good boy you are, Jim. You just did everything they said. I'm so proud of you. And your mommy's proud of you too. You did anything they said. They didn't tell you to walk off a cliff yet because you're still talking. But if that's hopefully hopefully they don't. So when I mentioned to my radiologist I was considering iron benzol, he got arrogant and even wrote in my portal that I've been advised against trying iromagnetophane benzo, and was advised it could make matters worse and even cause death. I'd like to hear your views. Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. You've been on Lupron for years, which tells me that the your situation has not been resolved over the years. In spite of the fact that you had 26 rounds of radiation, six rounds of game. Listen, you are to be congratulated 100% because you're still alive. You made it after they shot. You you just went through beyond basic training. This is advanced training. You went through Navy SEAL stuff beyond that. And they shot everything they could at you, and you're still walking around asking them questions. They don't like that. And how dare you ask a question about something they don't know? The reason he got whatever he got is not because he knows. And you don't ask him. You can't ask a you cannot ask a Toyota salesman about Mercedes-Benz. Or you can, but you're not gonna get an answer, uh, a real answer, are you? All right, now, so this guy, Jim, who you should never see again. First of all, you you you're on Lupron. You've got to join the uh the CFC group. First of all, Lupron knocks out your hypothalamic uh pituitary test testes axis so that you're not producing any testosterone, because their their premise is that testosterone causes CFCs. And Jim, if that were true, Jim, I'm gonna just assume you're over 30, right? So anyway, so if that were true, then every 25, 30-year-old guy at Gold's gym with an erection all day long should have prostate CFCs. He doesn't, it's the guy that is taken Viagra at the age of 65. So, right there, right there, says, What is wrong with this story? But of course, that's for people who think, and we want to remember they don't want us to think, but we're all capable of it, and let's not give it up, all right. So that's like saying soy is really dangerous for women with breast CFCs. Well, how come in Japan, before we introduced McDonald's, they didn't have breast CFCs? And how come even now they have much less? And how come uh and they're eating soy all day long and they have less and they live 10 years longer than us?

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I don't know, but you know, they they told me that. Why would they say that if it's not true?

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Well, we yeah, that's what I run into this every day. Why would they say it if it's not true? I don't know. Um why would there be a great hoax of 2020 if it's not true? Hopefully, those of us involved right now at this moment here in this group already know that they they get their mouths washed out with soap if they tell the truth. Yeah, they're not allowed to. But little time, the little kids, their parents, you know, you said the truth. They don't, it's not allowed in those households. What households? The House of Windsor, Rothschild, Rockefeller. Yeah, there's anyway, they're uh even higher. I know the Rothschilds and Rockefellers maybe are working for them. They are uh by the way, don't get the Monopoly game because they already won. They won the game of Monopoly, it's over. They are they they just left us Baltic and uh Mediterranean, they've got all the rest. Anyway, so let's talk about it, Jim, because I know you want to know the answer. Okay, what's the answer? Well, to your uninformed, and he should have his tongue cut off. When I say why would you say such a thing? Because he what he's saying to people is causing them, they're deaf. He's committing acts of sorcery and he's lying. Why do we know that? Because we know it's well proven that ivermectin has well-known, well-established anti-CFC properties. Okay, it inhibits the WNT TCF pathways, which are and the and the hippo pathways, which are very, very important uh with CFCs, especially prostate CFCs, right? Okay, and as it turns out, um it's part of the homeostatic process, it helps keep the whole prostate healthy, right? Uh the ivermectin. Okay. And then there was a there was a stubble study, tell your guy, tell your guy to read it to stop watching Netflix and uh playing golf or whatever else. He does in his leisure, and start reading the journals and find out that uh ask him about the study published in September of 20 of 2022, all right, that looked about ivermectin at targeting uh prostate CFCs. And what did it find? What was the finding in this study that was published? Ivermectin increased intracellular double-stranded DNA breaks and finally triggered cell death. So the authors of this study concluded that the anti-cancer effects of ivermectin and prostate cancer may be a new therapeutic approach for prostate. I won't use that word again, but yeah, CFCs. Published data, right? And then you've heard of the Brit British Journal of CFCs, right? Cancer, British Journal of Cancers, right? This is published in uh 20 um, what was it, 2019. All right, repurposing screen identifies mebendazole as a clinical candidate to synergize with doxatasol, dosatasol, which is taxotyr, um, for prostate CFCs. So, in fact, it's become a new big deal. Dosataxil, which is taxotyr, and mebendazole target distinct aspects of the microtubule block. Microtubules are almost like the um non-bony skeleton of cells, and it's how they move and divide, but it's how they divide, because if they don't divide, if they can't divide, they're dead, they're gone. Can't use that word, they're flat lined, okay? But anyway, so and the reason this is getting published is because they're using it with a drug, so the dose of taxol. Because of that, it's got funding, and then we're able to do the study, but it's becoming a big deal in in the world of oncology. Memendazole, okay, which is the cousin of fenbendazole, and they're all basically the same, Jim. So your oncologist should at least have his tongue stapled to his uh bottom that nobody hit me through a fallow.

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Like he can't say anything bad to people anymore. We don't want him telling people all these bad things, you know what I mean? Because it's the things he's telling them is gonna kill them. That's what I'm talking about. I mean, Jim.

SPEAKER_01: 44:55

Anyway, um, but there's many, many, many other studies. So, Jim, here's the answer. Your guy is uninformed, not only uninformed, now he's lying to you. He's already lied to you because he's got you somehow convinced that you doing all these poisonous treatments are gonna make you healthy. Jim, that poison will make you healthy. So here's the thing. And by the way, what's his name now? Morgenteller. Abraham Morgenteller. Remember that name. Jim, write it down. Abraham Morgenteller. He is a preparation age, meaning medical school and Harvard, residency and fellowship at Harvard. No, it was an undergrad, medical, and and then residency and fellowship at Harvard. So they call him a preparation age. But anyway, all through the Harvard thing. He's now a professor of urology, a tenured professor of urology at Harvard, still there. Years ago, he wrote a paper about the myth of testosterone and prostate CFCs. The myth. So look it up. You just have to use those couple words. The myth of testosterone, and put in uh uh Morgan Taylor, M-O-R-G-A-N-T-E-L-L-E-R. Put that in, Jim, and do that and find out that this lupron is absurd and it's lost you a lot of good, fun years of being a healthy sexual human being. All right, which is what you you have you that that's part of your right of being alive, right? And and if you had the testosterone, you'd care. Right now, you'd probably don't care what I'm talking about. You say, ah, who needs it? You know, I don't know, that's for young people. Yeah, give you a little testosterone, and you're gonna see who needs it. So, anyway, I'm telling you to have a wonderful life in living color instead of black and white. Let's get back in the game. Get back in the game, okay? And the game is a fun game. Living being alive is fun, it's being fun if you're healthy. So let's get off the road that you're on. Which is you, you, I'm serious. You get a purple heart, but you got through these guys. That's fantastic, James. So now it's it's your turn. Go for it. Shed off these things. Join our group, CFC group, drlody.com, go there now. Oh, wait till we're done. Write it down. Drloti.com, go there, join up. All right, Lisa. I'm I'm asking this question on behalf on my on my brother's behalf. He has what I call episodes twisting pain that radiates through his spine to the front of his chest area. He states that it feels like a heart attack, runs fevers. He will go to hospital and nothing found. He suffers, he has been to many doctors and specialists with no answers, plus MRIs is there to find nothing. Is it possible it is a large parasite, maybe living in the muscle? If he has what what type? Is there a test to find out? I feel so bad for him. Wow, Lisa, me too. I feel the same thing, same way you feel about your your poor brother there. Um, see, I mean which we're in a group right now, the parasite group, I could ask you. So, how long twisting pain that radiates through his spine to his so you you you're you're you're you're you're you you very you've articulated quite well the one of the two types of pains that people are going to experience. There are pains that we see with um like uh you know perforated ulcer, a perforated appendix, uh uh or any any severe thing that like that that's you usually perforations, stuff like that, where you just don't want to move, just moving even a little bit, it gets worse, right? And so you know, part of when we're examining someone like that, you just need to touch their belly. And if they jump, you've got just some answers there. So that's one kind of pain. There's other kind of pain that we associate with that that's we see often with uh kidney stones, and as those stones are passing down, see the stones, you know, they form in the kidney, right? We have two kidneys over here, they form in the kidney, and then they they pass down through the ureters. The ureters are what take the urine from the kidney to the bladder, and there are these muscular tubes, and and when the stones are going down there and it's uh the pain is I've had uh many women tell me that it's far greater than uh natural childbirth with no with no uh you know medication, no pain meds. Uh and this kind of pain is called writhing pain. You gotta you gotta keep moving because of our heads. That's the kind of pain it is. It's the kind of pain where you can't get comfortable. So that's what you're kind of describing here, but it doesn't sound like kidney because it's you're saying it goes from his spine to the front of his chest. And that could be kidney, because you know it's hard for us to know to a pinpoint exactly where where in our abdomen something is. So there's a phenomenon known as referred pain, too. So something over here is affected, but it's causing pain on this, it's called referred pain. So it's really hard to determine. So, but if he's got MRI, he's had MRIs, he said. Uh, and he runs fever. So these fevers are these fevers are associated with this, and they there they are they does he get a fever and then this happens, or or does he run fevers at other times? So there's a lot that I need to clarify here. Uh, but it sounds like he goes to the hospitals and no one can figure it out. That's very, very odd. Um, and MRIs. I'm wondering where you live, and now could this be a parasite? Well, maybe, but let's not not. I mean, there okay, it's important for us all to understand that parasites, we have parasites, they're part of what's going on, and they're gonna contribute uh in one way or another to disrupting our balance, our physiology. So, yeah, but are or is a parasite causing this, you know, most likely uh there's something else going on. Uh, and and I I just don't know. There, I just so much you I don't know how often does this happen? Um, how long does it happen? Um uh, you know, there's so many things, you know, are there anything that are make it better, any things that make it worse? There's so many questions we have I have to ask, and I don't know what test of it but that so really Lisa, um I I uh but if it's that severe, like you're describing. The other thing that res now you're saying it feels like a heart attack, I'm not sure what that you mean, because I would ask you, or ask you to ask him, or I would ask him, tell me about a pain in your chest, describe it to me. And the way he describes it to me would help me understand what he whether it's hard or not. So just just so you know, I mean you can ask him if you want, but just just so you know, when you ask someone who is having a heart attack, what does it feel like if they have to think and move? They always take their hand and they go, squeeze. They they just they describe it. So you you don't put that word in their mouth, you don't say, does it feel like it's squeezing? You just say, So what does it feel like? And they will always, if it's heart attack, they'll go like this. And so that gives you a big clue there. So you ask them, right? So anyway, and and running from his spine and all that, on the other hand, not being able to tell what's going on in our bodies, we know that there are certain uh abdominal organs when affected, can radiate to the front and to the back. So, for example, pancreatitis or pancreatic pain, which is the pancreas, is up here in the abdomen, but it radiates to the back, can cause some pretty severe pain in the back. And here you are telling me secondhand because it's not you, it's your brother. So we're getting secondhand about, and we're not getting really a good description. So I really can't go any further because I don't know what else to say, except that you really need to find a competent doctor somewhere or hospital. Um, and um, I don't know where you live, but wherever you were going, go somewhere else or leave, get out of there. Go, you gotta find out. Uh, you can't you can't keep going through all this. Join my join the Bears Eye group so we can talk. We'll be talking tomorrow, I think. On theRLodi.com. Go there so we can talk. By the way, if anyone has CFC problems right now, and you're anywhere near North America, get over to Oasis, okay, in Arizona and the Oasis of Healing. Now, here's uh George. Um, wonderful. George is the family doc. Thanks for what you are doing to educate us, awakened physicians, so we can assist our patients. It would be helpful, helpful if you can give me the meds you could recommend for top two to four protocols you recommend. Some of my family practice patients range from having no extra cash to quite limited. The foods that are antiparasitic may be their main option. When do you recommend over-the-counter medications? If you are willing, which ones and how often for how long and when to repeat? Final question. How often do labs three quarters three quarters to the end of the treatment, give evidence that it's working? If so, which ones? OMP, DMA, stool tests for which ones?

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Thank you.

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All right, great. Uh family doc in Tennessee. Well, fantastic, Dr. George. Um, beautiful. I'm so glad you uh found me. It's wonderful when doctors can join in on this because uh we need to spread the word. We need to have good doctors out there. And here you go, you got Dr. Graves for anybody near Tennessee. Here you go. Dr. George Graves. With regarding the top two to more four protocols, just to keep in mind that one uh that as you well know, microorganisms we're not gonna find just one. You know, when we culture, we find a uh one of the predominant species, but it's not the only one. They live in an ecosystem, they have a large ecosystem, and they have uh, and there's you know, in fact, there are and we all we now know that there are nano sized bacteria and microorganisms that we can't, that we we we can't, we don't, we don't even we we don't detect because we don't look for them, because we don't have a we don't even know how to look for them. So there's in addition to the ones that we can see, which are archaea, bacteria, protozoa, um, uh funguses, viruses, what they call viruses. In addition to that, then there's these other stuff that other guys, these nanoscience ones that Royal Raymond Reif saw, that um, you know, Dr. Weber in Munich saw, and you know, and we know that in 1972, when they when they finally discovered the calcium-producing um microorganisms CPNs, CPMs, were at the root, at the nitus of all uh atherosclerotic plaques, right? So we knew so then you know I mean the headlines I think of Time magazine is that is heart disease an infectious disease, you know. But so there's an entire ecosystem of organisms to keep in mind. And one may be predominating, but there are other ones. So for that reason, we use anti-helmithics and uh antiprotozools and antifungals. Basically, irimectin, unless there's a particular problem with it, uh I would recommend it for every protocol, just because it's so far-reaching. And of course, you're gonna take the probiotics and prebiotics and eat healthy. That it's a given. You would do that even if it had no effect. So then the next is a benzamidazole, albendazole, fenbendazole, mebendazole. The other ones, the other benzamidazols aren't really used, so any one of them. I mean, because they're all the same. And and with regards to, well, this one, that one does this, you know. For example, Mebendazole is known to um have an effect at uh eliminating CFC stem cells. How do we know that? Because we tested for that, but we didn't test the other ones for that, so just like there are well, there are no human studies with fembendazole, right? Yeah, because you didn't make any human studies. So there are no human studies, right? Okay, so now what but we found it with animals, and then here's the thing people get upset. We're not animals, we're humans. What the heck is a human? A plant, a mineral, no, not plants, minerals, uh remember that game, everybody, right? No, not uh scissors, rock, paper, whatever that is. Not that game. Animal, mineral, vegetable, right? You're driving in the car for a long way, and you gotta everybody thinks, you know, everybody takes a turn thinking of something. Anyway, that wasn't the basic family. So we're not in the plant, we're not in the mineral, so I'm gonna just guess that we're probably in the animal group. What does it mean to be an animal? It means to be a biological, an intact biological organism that moves around. Anime, anima, uh, anima, anima. Anima is not just uh Japanese cartoons, it's the root of you know moving around. Anima, soul is that in Latin. Yeah, so anyway, anyway, so it turns out that fenbendazole seems to work with animals and humans who are not animals. We're not animals, we're not plants. What are we? We're aliens, that's it. But are aliens animals? They move around. So aliens are animals too. Wow. Maybe some we don't know. There might be some aliens that are across between plants and animals. Let's try to imagine that. Let's also try to imagine if the earth is flat, because all these things that really waste our time. Let's waste our time. One of the basics is ivermectin three times a day, benazol or medbenazole three times a day, niclosamine three times a day. And you can add brasicoantyl if you want, or you can get one or either niclosamine or brasicoantyl. There's different ways of looking at it, there's different ways of doing that. We'd have to have a a more of a uh discussion at a different level than we I would talk right now. But uh, and then we add in um and certain antiprotozools of nitazoxylate. I like it's the best, I think it's the most broad uh of them all. And it uh tinnidazole is important too. So um, and you come three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, one week off, three weeks on, one week off. And during the one week off, and also during the whole thing, you're gonna be doing liver support with ALA, uh silly marin or silly binum, milk thistle and uh IC, thiamine. Anyway, Dr. George, we should probably go over that. Let's go to the next one. Now, this is uh Teresa, uh sister's Mike. I've been emailing you about Mike's blood. He ended him the ER, they gave him an iron infusion. He was at 5% saturation and blood transfusion, hemoglobin was 7.1. He doesn't have a scan set up until 9th of October. Is that soon enough to get results or should we bump this up? What's today? Six, huh? I know if we call them and something is wrong, first thing they request will be chemo and immunotherapy. He's having right upper quadrant pain, but like you said, both his liver and kidney numbers are normal. Please advise, talk more about your ACE, your oasis of healing. We may consider this if if it's a better option than the high-dose regimen, they are going to want to put him on. All right, well, Teresa, yes. I don't know where you are in the U.S., but an oasis of healing in Arizona. I mean, if you get there, I'm I'll be involved in the whole program. Um, and um, and yeah, and and you know, sadly, we're the only place that does it all. I don't understand it because I certainly don't keep it a secret. You need to be working with mind, body, and soul and spirit. You need to be working with it. You can't ignore any of them. And then the body, everything, everything. That's from you know, eating and not eating, cleaning the body out and all that, and then interventions, intravenous interventions. Um, and they're you know, all the standard ones that are known of integrative oncology, which are you know, um, uh, you know, vitamin C, ozone, curcumin, all these. And if we need chemotherapy, we use insulin potentiated low-dose chemo, which is I think what you're referring to there. And uh that's really good because with insulin-potentiated low-dose chemotherapy, you target the CFCs and not the whole body, which is kind of a smart thing to do. If you're gonna poison um somebody, make sure you're hitting the target and not using a shotgun where you get everything. Yeah, I mean, it's sadly, it's one of the only options. I just don't know of a place that does it all, including the diet. Don't do it all for why? Why? Because everybody's interested in interest. What's your money making? You don't make a lot of money on food teaching, you don't make a lot of money teaching people how to live healthy. So anyway, call there. Uh, and uh, or actually, if you want, give me send me an email and I'll look uh and uh if you want to, I'll have someone from there get in touch with you. All right, so send it right away, and then I'll look right after this Zoom. Uh right after this uh what are we doing? Live stream, yeah. All right, is uh uh, but anyway, so just for everybody's database, there's a bleed going on here, esophageal bleed, uh tumor oozing. Uh and of course, what happens when you lose blood? You lose iron and you become iron deficient. So that's what's happening. So hemoglobin was 7.1. A man should be around 14. So that's like having half of your blood gone in terms of its oxygen delivering capacity. So he needed the transfusion. He was at the point where he needed transfusion. We try to avoid that transfusion is by using things like erythropoietin and um stuff like that, and they gave an iron infusion. And unfortunately, if you give iron infusions to someone who with CFCs, the CFCs grab most of it, but there's a way of of of diverting that, and that's by giving an IV um of erythropoietin prior to the iron infusion, so that the bone marrow will be grabbing this uh iron and um a lot greater, greater, far greater amounts of iron uh than normally, which means that the CFCs will get less and the bone marrow will get more. And the bone marrow is where you make the red blood cells, so that's necessary. So he's having right upper quadrupane, that's liver, the right back would be kidney. That's liver, stomach, gallbladder, um, duodenum, upper and um small intestines, upper part of the small intestine. So yeah, he needs to be evaluated. So really let me know, you're ready to go, and I'll have someone. This is Petra. Hi, Dr. Lodi. How effective do you consider ashwagandha to be for supporting underactive thyroid function? We often think of ashwagandha as uh supportive of the adrenal glands, right? And that's because it's able to actually lower cortisol levels. And people, people with uh that are in sympathetic overdrive, people that are stressed are are going to be having high cortisol levels, uh, and and so it which have many serious um negative effects in the human physiology. But again, we have to remember that we are not uh we are not, we do not consist of multiple systems like the cardiovascular system, um, the central nervous system, the immune system, the thyroid, the adrenals. There's one system and it all works together. And you know, so the question is does it work for you're saying underactive thyroid, hypothyroidism? Actually, there was a study where they took uh it was eight eight weeks, say it with 50 people, they put them on 600 milligrams of ashwagandha a day, uh, and they found uh, and these are people with thyroid problems, um the hypothyroid, and it showed significant um improvement in all the people that were taking it. So, yeah, it does help, absolutely. And you know, the um, and you know, specifically the way it helped, there was uh both the T3 and T4, as you know, thyroid hormone is uh triioto and tetraiod of uh thyroxine, right, is what it is. Anyway, so the T3 and T4 levels they had like a 41, 42 percent uh increase in a in the T3, and then it was like a 20% in the T4. So it's great. And uh also um the TSH levels came down, which is another just another thing to be talking about. All right, but we also know that it also lowers the cortisol levels, which is really, really important because that chronic stress increases the uh winds up impairing thyroid. So that chronic stress decreases thyroid function. So they're they were they're working together. So by the ashwagandha having an effect actually on the adrenals by decreasing the cortisol, and also by increasing separately in a in a distinct pathway, uh increase the T3 and T4, then we know that yes, indeed, it's gonna help with the hypothyroidism, but it's also gonna help with the core with the adrenals, and so there's a and this is so there's I think there's addition and symmetry there that need to be acknowledged, right? So, yes, right? All right, so where are we? Where are we now? What time is it? Oh, good, we've got some time. Okay, this is Janet. Um, and uh Janet, and this is regarding constipation. I had detected H. pylori. I had the treatment for two weeks on antibiotics. I finished three weeks ago, and I had allergies, almost everything perfume or creams. I love it if I can have a consultation with you, Dr. Kindly, Janet. Ah, so I didn't hear. I I'm there's a little confusing here. The topic is constipation, but it's saying you're talking about the wait a minute. Oh, the and then H. pylori, which is we think of a stomach gastric for two weeks on antibiotics infinite, and then you had allergies. I guess that's separate, not related to to the it's so noisy. Give me one second, I'm gonna close this. Sorry about that. Here we are. Yeah, you know, um they're they're building um a resort next door to me. I I I I I moved here because it was really private and fantastic, pristine, and now they're building a resort. They built one on the other side now, so I gotta move. So I'm trying to think what's worse. Is it worse hearing the noise of the construction or when they're finished and we're full of people? So bummer. Anyway, Janet. So, first of all, constipation is um a consequence of not eating human food or medications can do that, certain drugs can can do that as well, and it could be a combination. So the really easy way to deal with that is to eat health, is to eat human food, which is plants. The more plants you eat, the less constipation and hydration. What drinking a lot of fluid water, um, you know, vegetable juices, a little bit of fruit in there. But it's the cellulose, is what they call insoluble fiber. There's two kinds of fiber, the soluble and insoluble. So the insoluble basically forms like it's it's it's cellulose, and as it's passing through the gastrointestinal tract, it's kind of like a broom and it just sweeps things along. It also is very absorptive of water, and so it's so whenever you're drinking water, it's an absorbent, it just increases the bulk and the movement of it. Okay, so it's kind of like it has feet and it crawls through. So that's very important. You do that and you don't have to worry about anything else. And stop eating five hours before sleep and eat in a five-hour window, and eat just eat a lot of plants and fruit and nuts and seeds, and uh that's done. The constipation problem is over now. With regarding H. pylori, helicobacter pylori is a um microorganism bacteria that is found in the stomachs, which is unique in it because the stomach, as we mentioned a little earlier, is one of the physical barriers that doesn't that that that prevents the movement of microorganisms between the oral cavity and the gut, right? Because it's got gut because it's acidic. Well, these guys like it, they don't actually live in this acid, there, but they live in the cells that produce it, and um, because even they couldn't handle the uh the that level of acidity. But that's what they they like those cells, and in one way or another, they seem to be related to of gastric ulcers, meaning ulcers that form in the stomach. The word gastric always refers to stomach. So when they say gastrointestinal system, they're talking about the stomach and the intestines, which is small intestines and large intestines. So the um, so as a and and and and naturally the way that um the conventional world uh deals with H. pylori. So since it's a microorganism, we gotta kill it, we gotta kill it. Instead of recognizing it as part of the dysbiotic dysbiotic, what's the word? Whatever. It's it's part of the dysbiosis thing. That's it's crazy. That's what it is. So um, but however, and instead of antibiotics, you can use colloidal silver. And the one I recommend is from natural immunogenics, natural immunogenics, and they they produce two products called one is called sovereign silver, which is only 10 parts per million, and they produce uh Argentine 23, which is 23 parts per million. It's really the best uh colloidal silver because it never comes out of colloid, right? Which means it's uh it remains effective because when it comes out of colloid, colloid is what that means is that you've got like the silver is almost like almost like it's in a bubble separated from the rest of everything. And these are nano-sized bubbles, and there's billions, trillions of them, right? Because if those little bubbles, as it were, were to open up and they coalesce, then you're gonna get a big lob of silver, and you wind up getting a purple head, which you don't. I mean a blue head, which is called or goria. You don't want that, so you've got to have stable colloids, and this is our gen 23, it's a stable one, but it is extremely antimicrobial, and by but it doesn't really eliminate for some reason the the uh the the ones we need, the healthy ones. So it's it's pretty amazing. And if you get that, I would take like a tablespoon every couple hours. It's good for other things too, it's good preventatively to keep things healthy in your gut, a couple tablespoons a day, empty stomach, of course. But now, yeah, and now the other thing, the other good news here, Janet, is because you're gonna be eating human food so that you won't no longer have constipation, that will also be the prebiotics to re-establish a healthy biome, which got disrupted because of the antibiotics you were on, right? So, and you can you can you can take some probiotics as well, that'll be helpful, all right? So, so you have allergies to almost everything, including perfumes and creams. Well, here's the thing, Janet. You know what's really interesting is that what you've picked out here are seemingly three separate concerns, which are all basically not three separate, they're different manifestations of the same underlying situation. And when we say we have allergies, now at some point there's a it's it's difficult to distinguish between what an allergic situation is versus a situation where your body is trying to eliminate a toxin that it's being exposed to. Are they the same? Yeah, really. But I think what would fall more into that allergic category is when things that should normally not be considered toxic to us, when you're when you're taught like something that's we need to eat or whatever, shouldn't cause a reaction like that, which we call either allergic or just uh getting sick from eating a toxin. So the difference is when you get a um a um what's called the leaky gut syndrome, where uh you get these breaks. Um now all all the cells of the that line the gastrointestinal system are together, are hooked up together very tightly by these little rivets, you know, that you would see in steel, but they're they're similar, and they're called tight junctions. And these tight junctions can get stretched out and broken for many reasons. Eating too much, eating too frequently, stuff like that is gonna have an effect on them. Having a dysbiosis is gonna have an effect on them. So there's lots of eating foods that are they have toxins, there's lots of ways. So the the the the tight junctions are continually being um renewed and repaired. And um acromatsia is is one of the microorganisms, probably the main one that actually uh repairs tight junctions. But anyway, so we need to restore your healthy gut biome, and we need to help repair the gut so that you don't have a leaky gut, so that you're not having a reaction that we call allergic to something that would be nutritive. And we can do that by you know helping uh we can use biocyten and other other things to help with the biofilm that may be covering and protecting groups of microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract. We can add aquarancia, which is a probiotic, in so that it can help repair. We can use glutamine, which is an amino acid that is the fuel, the primary fuel source for the cells that line the small intestines, and aloe. So together, um, and there's a product called glutalamine from what's the company? Glutalamine. Who's that company? But uh, what's that company? Anybody you know? That company is Celcor, right? I don't know. Uh anyway. Um Zymogen, there we go. Yay! Dr. K to the rescue.

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K is one of the doctors that works at our center, um, Oasis. Who uh Mike, uh, I mean, uh, where was it? Teresa. You you're gonna get in touch uh with them right away. Um, or they're gonna get in touch with you. In fact, Dr. K, I think you can ask, um, go on the uh um IO, whatever it is, IOD ASIS, IOT Oasis, Iodia Oasis, IOT OASIS. Sounds cool. Um, and ask one of them for how to get in touch with this uh lady. She's uh pretty much works very closely with her husband and helps helps him through this. So she would be the person you'd probably contact. Send them an email or because yeah, sounds like they need help. Anyway, all right. So so anyway, yeah. So those are the basic things you would do. So you've got to heal your gut, you've got to start eating human food and eating appropriately. I mean, allowing at least four or five hours at before you sleep so that you're you get the most out of sleep. We won't go into that, and then um, and you have time for healing and all that sort of thing. So, this will go this is where we by just changing your diet, it's gonna change everything. Everything we've already talked about what of healthy having a healthy cut biome does, it affects everything from your immunologicals to your brain. I mean, so the constipation, the H. pyloria, which might have been associated with some sort of gastric pain, and these allergies are all just signals to you saying to your body saying, help, help. And you heard and you you're gone, you're on to it. So good, fantastic. Go for it, Janet. Join our group, the health and healing group. Just join the health and healing group, and then we can talk. All right, and then you get a consultation. It's not you get a consultation, but we'll get to talk every week, so or every other week, but health and healing, and you get a lot of information too. Okay, so now we're going to so we're going to Leslie here and um question ivermectin fembendazole for fourth stage prostates that's metastasized to the bone. So metastasis of the bone, you always want to consider doxycycline 100 milligrams twice a day. You always want to consider that. Um, but the ivermectin fembendazole we just talked about, uh, yes, and I don't know how serious the situation is, but they're using it with taxateer, the mabendazole. But so you need to get involved. You can join our group, CFC. And if you're in the US, give a call right now to uh an Oasis of Healing. Um, because we're we're on top of all these all this stuff, and do both. If you're a patient at Oasis, you have automatic membership in the CFC group while you're there. So that might be the way to go. I I don't know your situation. I'm just saying, either way, either join the CFC group or if you feel like you need some immediate attention, do the other. But yeah, ivermectin fimbendazole, the protocol, and you um yeah, the fibazole 500 milligrams three times a day, and ivermectin at least 12 milligrams three times a day. But I don't know your situation. I don't know your your li your liver enzymes, there's so there's so much I don't know, I can't tell you to do any of this. I I I can't because there's there's too many variables that could be um make this not a good record. So I can't do that. But I'm just saying the usual protocol would be that in the bones. The usual protocol would include doxycycline, depending if you're in the center, we might add in a bisphosinate, but I don't like them. I don't think we need them. Um anyway, and a lot of other things, so it's not just what we're talking about at this very second about with the uh the the um anti-protozools, antibiotics, we're also anti-uh worms, but we're also talking about the entire program. Now, what you need to do when you have CFCs is everything, not a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Let me try that and let me try. It can't be, it's got to be everything right now. Why? Because this CFC condition is a mind-body-spirit dysbiosis, dysfunction, and then that balance needs to be restored. And that means you've got to do everything on every level with every aspect of our being, right? And uh, because it's like right now, it's showtime. Let's take care of this. And you do that's a beautiful thing. And if you join our groups, you're gonna see all these people are really amazing people that have done it. They're they're they're they've been, you know, some of them have been doing this for years, and they're they want to stay that way. And they're all we're all helping each other. It's a beautiful family type situation, not to sound uh cliche or anything, but it's not, it's uh really has that feeling, you know. Let me look at some of your is it crazy, right? No, so I'm seeing some comments that were probably earlier, but the problem with blood transfusions is most people were probably injected with uh uh mRNA bioweapons. Absolutely true, but there becomes a point where you no longer have the option if your hemoglobin is too low, you're gonna die. So you know, you've got to know what that is. If we're not at that point, then uh encourage, stimulate the body to produce its own, and that's where we use the erythropoietin and uh venefer, which is the type of intravenous iron protocol. So um, yeah. And let me see, where was that thing? Oh what the heck? Um anyway, I forget that. Okay, let's go. What's the next question here? Um, but anyway, I hope you got that with the ibermagnetin and mabendazol. And yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and under this, this, this, this circumstances. So we've got to, you know, so if you join the group, we can narrow in on what you're talking about. Um, and if it's you're serious right now, you go to Oasis, and then you'll be in the groups anyway. So let's you know, take care of that, Leslie. Because a lot of times, you know, just getting a question answered is not really what people are looking for here. They're really looking for help, the way out. How do I get out of it? I'm I'm in trouble, I need some help, and I've I want to help you. And if it's stage four in the bone, call oasis and then get the yeah. Next, share. Um, how do you get rid of lichen plateness? This is for a friend. She had it for 10 years or so. I'm pretty sure the general form. Well, lichen plateness is who knows what it is. It's um, you know, now that we've gotten all sophisticated with immunology, we think it's a T cell mediated autoimmune. So, just once again, for all of us who grew up with Rocky and his boys, Rocky and the gang, the immune system does not attack the body. Hard to believe, shouldn't be. But our immune system doesn't attack us. Remember, the author, the the the the the the the the the the creator, the producer of this incredible earth suit is God. So anyway, whatever we call an autoimmune condition is when the immune system has identified something, and many times we can see, understand what it is that the immune system is identified and is um responding to, but there are often times we cannot identify it, and if we can't identify it, then we conclude that the immune system is attacking the body. This is just the arrogance and ignorance of the human being. For example, what is that 99% of the DNA of our DNA does not have codes, does not have uh information. So, what do they call it? The scientists, junk DNA. So God produced, or for those of you who think evolution, evolution produced by way of sort of of what's it called, natural selection, resulted in 99% junk and a little 1% of the stuff we need. No, and then what's that other word? No and no. There's no junk in the universe. The only place there's junk universe is in the mind of humans. The only place in the universe where there's junk is in the mind of humans. All right, so uh the uh all that 99 is was necessary for that whole process is take it's part of the apparatus, the functioning, okay, for you uh junk brained scientists, and then uh lichen planus, it's a chronic inflammatory affecting the skin and mucosal cervices, and we believe that it's T cell mediated, okay. So anything they say is at best useless, okay. And of course, there are different types, not locations, types. There's cutaneous mucosal, they can have in planus of the nails, and then there's vulvar, you know, women can have it. Um, anyway, it can be a pretty much of a bumper, usually people between age 30 and 60, but you know what, things are changing now with the uh new mRNA bioweapons running around, so who knows? We're gonna see it in uh newborns, or maybe in embryos, anyway. So, what do we do? What do we do with this? Okay, um, and the whole thing is is obviously what we're talking about is that the immune system has gotten involved in something that we can't identify. So, what do we need to do? Clearly, it's very clear we need to do an incredibly thorough cleansing program, which in biological dentistry, number one, long juice cleanse, colonics, lymphatic, complete cleanse, and then there are many ways to support immunity, and that's why getting our our our the important nutrients like the vitamin vitamin C, ascorbates, and the vitamin A and the vitamin D, those are all important with immunity, they're all necessary for immunity. Getting our thyroid function is is important for me for our immune system. Thyroid is one of the bosses of the immune system and the adrenals. So by re-establishing the balance in those and then balancing all of our hormones, just restoring balance is going to do that, and then feeding the immune system, giving it what it needs and what doesn't need. And that's what's gonna happen with this diet and the cleansing thing. And then when you do eat, you're gonna eat again in human human food in the right at the right times, the right amounts. And then there are things you can additionally that you can take depending on what the situation is. So we need to look at a lymphocyte subset to see what's going on is in your situation. What's going on? What's going on with your thymus gland, which is T cells, which produces uh, you know, matures T cells. So there's a lot to this. So your friend who's been going through this for a long time is not having a really good time. Uh, join the health and healing group and we can deal with that. Uh, we're working on expanding the number of seats we have at Oasis. And if we uh ever get to the point where we can expand enough, I would like to work with people, not only people that don't have I uh CFCs who have other serious concerns like this in plainness, but um I mean it can be a real bummer. Like, and I don't know what your friend has done, so really hard for me to comment any further. So why don't we have you go to drloti.com, drlodi.com, and join the health and healing group so I can ask you a couple more questions so we can help your friend. And let's get your friend on there. We can't just have you talking for your friend. I hope your friend is uh you know motivated to take another perspective. You are all right. So here we are with Curtis and uh wait, where are we in terms of time? What time is it? Oh so I guess it's gonna be our last question. Um, Curtis, colon erectal CFCs. Is there any data statements on using ivory to treat erect erectile CFCs? There is. Let me show you one here. Um, this one I want it's uh this is a study published um in 2021. Let me give you the exact thing here. So ivermectin, this is uh in front frontiers and pharmacology is the name of that. The article published in 2021. Ivermectin has new application inhibiting colorectal CFC growth, cancer cell growth they use.

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So what they said, let me just read this a little bit to you because they I want you to understand it. Whereas uh the results demonstrated that ivermectin dose-dependently inhibited colorectal cancer, cell growth, followed by promoting cell apoptosis and increasing casbase. Okay, so apoptosis is where a cell recycles itself, and it happens through something called caspase, that's part of the process. Besides, ivermectin upregulated the expression of pro-apoptotic proteins, backs, and uh and and cleaved parp. Well, that means proaptotic proteins, so proteins that are involved in apoptosis, which is eliminating cells, not by slaughtering them, but by recycling them. Okay, and so it upregulated these specific factors. So this is real data, right? And it downregulated the antipro uh aproptotic proteins. And if that weren't enough, it promoted both both total and mitochondrial ROS production in dose-dependent manner, which could be eliminated by administering NAC in CRCs, colorectal following NAC treatment, the inhibitive cell growth. Anyway, yes, it works. They're serious, but they're calling it what they're calling it. Uh, let me just tell you what they're calling it. The new miracle drug for rectal cancer, in their words, that's what they're calling it. Okay, and that's just that. We can find the same with and colon, we can find the same with phenomendosol. So the answer is yes, there is very good data, very good information, and stuff that you really want to know about. And I'm really glad that you are asking and you asked the right place. You didn't ask your oncologist because they would say, No, you can't get out of my office, right? You don't want that kind of thing. Anyway, you guys, so Bloody Cup, thank you so much. I've uh uh there's so many more things we didn't answer, and we will get to eventually. And I think if we keep it up at this pace by 2090, we should have all the questions answered. Anyway, so join the groups too so that we can interact, all right? Somebody come up.